Re: [Ilisp-devel] Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
Branden Robinson wrote: > This shouldn't be a problem. A good-faith effort should be sufficient; > you can then proceed with a good-faith assumption that the change is not > problematic. Thanks very much for your insights, Branden! -- Kevin Rosenberg| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Bug#158320: ITP: cl-defsystem3 -- A system definition and building package for Common Lisp programs

2002-11-15 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:44:43PM -0700, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: > Also, is the requirement to change the name also non-DFSG compatible? I forgot to answer this point. There has been some debate recently over *precisely* what DFSG 4 means (see the archives of debian-legal regarding the LaTeX Proj

Re: Bug#158320: ITP: cl-defsystem3 -- A system definition and building package for Common Lisp programs

2002-11-15 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:44:43PM -0700, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: > Branden Robinson wrote: > > > ;;; following conditions are met: > > > ;;; o distribution of a modification to the Software have been > > > ;;;previously submitted to the maintainers; if the maintainers > > > ;;;

Re: [Ilisp-devel] Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Branden Robinson
[My apologies for the broad CC; I don't know who is subscribed to which lists, but I'm subscribed to debian-legal, so if you reply to debian-legal, I'll see it.] On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 10:39:56AM -0700, Larry Hunter wrote: > I'm one ILISP developer who has no problem with GPL'ing ILISP. > > I t

Re: YAST License, is redistribution permitted?

2002-11-15 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 04:12:07PM +0100, Thomas Uwe Gruettmueller wrote: > Hi Marcello, > > On Tuesday 12 November 2002 10:06, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > I'm seeking the opinion of -legal regarding an issue I've > > been discussing on another mailing list. It pertains the YAST > > license a

Re: Bug#158320: ITP: cl-defsystem3 -- A system definition and building package for Common Lisp programs

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
Walter Landry wrote: > This is the problem. What if the people making a change can not > contact the original author, because they live somewhere without > internet access? If I make a modification, before I can give it to my > friend across the street, I have to contact the original authors. An

Re: DFSG vs Pine's legal notices: where exactly is the gotcha?

2002-11-15 Thread David Turner
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 02:22, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 05:33:36PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > > My suggestion is that you ask the FSF for their more detailed advice. > > > > What contact address is best for

Re: Bug#158320: ITP: cl-defsystem3 -- A system definition and building package for Common Lisp programs

2002-11-15 Thread Walter Landry
Kevin Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Branden Robinson wrote: > > > ;;; following conditions are met: > > > ;;; o distribution of a modification to the Software have been > > > ;;;previously submitted to the maintainers; if the maintainers > > > ;;;decide not to include

Re: the Lisp Lesser General Public License

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
Branden Robinson wrote: > I'm going to raise this license on the debian-legal mailing list just to > get some second opinions on it and otherwise get the -legal list > familiar with it, because I don't recall having seen it mentioned there > before. (Or maybe I just missed it.) > > I am not sure

Re: the Lisp Lesser General Public License

2002-11-15 Thread Walter Landry
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The LLGPL doesn't look like a problem from a DFSG standpoint to me. Its > real effect appears to be a liberalization of the copyleft in the LGPL > ("Since Lisp only offers one choice, which is to link the Library into > an executable at build time, we

the Lisp Lesser General Public License

2002-11-15 Thread Branden Robinson
[debian-legal, I was doing audit of ITPs made this year for weird licenses, or failure to note what license was being used altogether. I asked Mr. Rosenberg about #161007.] On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:31:50PM -0700, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: > Hi Brandon, (It's "Branden", BTW.) > It's a typo -- it

Re: [Ilisp-devel] Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Marco Antoniotti
> From: Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], >debian-legal@lists.debian.org > Organization: Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-Original-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:39:04 -0500 > Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:39:04 -0500 > X-

Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
> the road. The best way to accomplish such a goal is to start off using > the GPL, assign copyright to the FSF (and sign the paperwork), and > accept patches only when the contributor is also willing to sign the > paperwork. It's tedious, but changing licenses later in the game is > difficult wh

Re: [Ilisp-devel] Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Kevin Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry, it must comply with the GPL now as it makes extensive use of GPL > > code. > > It is interesting that GNU ships ilisp on their CD: > http://www.gnu.org/order/source15.html > > So GNU is okay with redistributing ILISP. I consider their opini

Re: [Ilisp-devel] Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Larry Hunter
I'm one ILISP developer who has no problem with GPL'ing ILISP. I think the usual strategy of sending an email to all listed contributors at their last known address saying that "we plan to do this unless we here that you object by ," and then making the change (assuming no complaints) should wor

Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Kevin Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter, > > Thanks for message. I've forwarded your message to ilisp-devel for > their consideration as well as debian-legal. ILISP has been an > important part of Lisp development for many years, so it is essential > to clarify the issue completely. >

Re: [Ilisp-devel] Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
> Sorry, it must comply with the GPL now as it makes extensive use of GPL > code. It is interesting that GNU ships ilisp on their CD: http://www.gnu.org/order/source15.html So GNU is okay with redistributing ILISP. I consider their opinion important. -- Kevin Rosenberg| .''`.

Re: Bug#169243: ilisp: Is it even distributable?

2002-11-15 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
Peter, Thanks for message. I've forwarded your message to ilisp-devel for their consideration as well as debian-legal. ILISP has been an important part of Lisp development for many years, so it is essential to clarify the issue completely. Of course, I think it is the hope of all that ILISP's li

Re: YAST License, is redistribution permitted?

2002-11-15 Thread Thomas Uwe Gruettmueller
Hi Marcello, On Tuesday 12 November 2002 10:06, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > I'm seeking the opinion of -legal regarding an issue I've > been discussing on another mailing list. It pertains the YAST > license as found in: > > ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/8.1/COPYRIGHT.yast This li

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