Re: [Talin@ACM.org: Suggestions for wording...?]

2000-06-17 Thread Chip Salzenberg
According to Joseph Carter: > Okay guys, how about a few suggestions? Well, you could use the term "OSI-Certified Open Source" as an unambiguous description of open source licenses. (Unless you don't like OSI's certifications, of course.) -- Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. -

[Talin@ACM.org: Suggestions for wording...?]

2000-06-17 Thread Joseph Carter
Okay guys, how about a few suggestions? -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GnuPG key 1024D/DCF9DAB3 Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org/) 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC The QuakeForge Project (http://quakeforge.net/) 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 if macOS is for the computer

Re: whether there is a patent on MP3 decoding [was Re: Bug#65794: freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 11:06:35PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Until now there was no threat for a lawsuit, but if they want they can try > it with EVERYONE who sells a CD - and if they want they can pick a very > small one (I think of that there is currently someone in Germany who has a > trademar

Re: whether there is a patent on MP3 decoding [was Re: Bug#65794: freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 11:06:35PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > mp3 Software Decoders/Players distributed free-of-charge via the Internet > > >for personal use of end-users > > > > > > No license fee is expected for desktop software mp3 decoders/players > > >

Re: whether there is a patent on MP3 decoding [was Re: Bug#65794: freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Josip Rodin wrote: > severity 65794 normal > severity 65796 normal > severity 65797 normal > thanks > > On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 02:27:23PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > freeamp is a MP3 decoder. Decoding of MP3s is patented. > > > > http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/swdec.

Re: whether there is a patent on MP3 decoding [was Re: Bug#65794: freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 11:06:35PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Until now there was no threat for a lawsuit, but if they want they can try > it with EVERYONE who sells a CD - and if they want they can pick a very > small one (I think of that there is currently someone in Germany who has a > tradema

Re: whether there is a patent on MP3 decoding [was Re: Bug#65794: freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 11:06:35PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > mp3 Software Decoders/Players distributed free-of-charge via the Internet > > >for personal use of end-users > > > > > > No license fee is expected for desktop software mp3 decoders/players > >

Re: whether there is a patent on MP3 decoding [was Re: Bug#65794:freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Josip Rodin wrote: > severity 65794 normal > severity 65796 normal > severity 65797 normal > thanks > > On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 02:27:23PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > freeamp is a MP3 decoder. Decoding of MP3s is patented. > > > > http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/swdec

whether there is a patent on MP3 decoding [was Re: Bug#65794: freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread Josip Rodin
severity 65794 normal severity 65796 normal severity 65797 normal thanks On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 02:27:23PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > freeamp is a MP3 decoder. Decoding of MP3s is patented. > > http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/swdec.html > says about license fees for MP3 decoders: > > mp3

Re: [bunk@fs.tum.de: Bug#65794: freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread Tomasz Wegrzanowski
On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 12:51:58PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: > Opinions? I thought that it had been decided that mp3 decoders were ok for > main... I've maintained an mp3 player since I became a maintainer two years > ago, first with emusic, now with freeamp... > > Please Cc me on replies, I am

Re: [bunk@fs.tum.de: Bug#65794: freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 12:51:58PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: > Opinions? I thought that it had been decided that mp3 decoders were ok for > main... I've maintained an mp3 player since I became a maintainer two years > ago, first with emusic, now with freeamp... > > Please Cc me on replies, I am

[bunk@fs.tum.de: Bug#65794: freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread Brian Almeida
Opinions? I thought that it had been decided that mp3 decoders were ok for main... I've maintained an mp3 player since I became a maintainer two years ago, first with emusic, now with freeamp... Please Cc me on replies, I am not on -legal. - Forwarded message from Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECT

whether there is a patent on MP3 decoding [was Re: Bug#65794: freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread Josip Rodin
severity 65794 normal severity 65796 normal severity 65797 normal thanks On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 02:27:23PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > freeamp is a MP3 decoder. Decoding of MP3s is patented. > > http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/swdec.html > says about license fees for MP3 decoders: > > mp3

Re: [bunk@fs.tum.de: Bug#65794: freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread Tomasz Wegrzanowski
On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 12:51:58PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: > Opinions? I thought that it had been decided that mp3 decoders were ok for > main... I've maintained an mp3 player since I became a maintainer two years > ago, first with emusic, now with freeamp... > > Please Cc me on replies, I a

Re: [bunk@fs.tum.de: Bug#65794: freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 12:51:58PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: > Opinions? I thought that it had been decided that mp3 decoders were ok for > main... I've maintained an mp3 player since I became a maintainer two years > ago, first with emusic, now with freeamp... > > Please Cc me on replies, I a

[bunk@fs.tum.de: Bug#65794: freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread Brian Almeida
Opinions? I thought that it had been decided that mp3 decoders were ok for main... I've maintained an mp3 player since I became a maintainer two years ago, first with emusic, now with freeamp... Please Cc me on replies, I am not on -legal. - Forwarded message from Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: reiserfs-utils_3.5.19-1_i386.changes REJECTED (fwd)

2000-06-17 Thread Raul Miller
I wrote: > Exporting an API is what the kernel does. If binary kernel modules are > restricted by the GPL so are all other programs. > > Perhaps Linux should be licensed under the LGPL, to solve this issue? By the way, this was a rhetorical suggestion. -- Raul

Re: reiserfs-utils_3.5.19-1_i386.changes REJECTED (fwd)

2000-06-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 02:20:21PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > From the reiserfs mailinglist: > > Hans Reiser wrote: > > I am quite happy if folks suggest better phrasing than what I use. To solve incompatability with the GPL: Replace: > +Since that license (particularly 2.b) is necessarily

Re: reiserfs-utils_3.5.19-1_i386.changes REJECTED (fwd)

2000-06-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 05:16:11PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > And I would still recommend a less ambiguous phrasing. > > I agree. I hope there is a chance to get it changed. Hans seems to be willing to accept a better wording. So if someone can come up with

Re: reiserfs-utils_3.5.19-1_i386.changes REJECTED (fwd)

2000-06-17 Thread Raul Miller
I wrote: > Exporting an API is what the kernel does. If binary kernel modules are > restricted by the GPL so are all other programs. > > Perhaps Linux should be licensed under the LGPL, to solve this issue? By the way, this was a rhetorical suggestion. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [E

Re: reiserfs-utils_3.5.19-1_i386.changes REJECTED (fwd)

2000-06-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 02:20:21PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > From the reiserfs mailinglist: > > Hans Reiser wrote: > > I am quite happy if folks suggest better phrasing than what I use. To solve incompatability with the GPL: Replace: > +Since that license (particularly 2.b) is necessaril

Re: (reiserfs) Re: License arguements again (debian specific)

2000-06-17 Thread Martin Douda
Just a few words from the most autoritative source - The GPL itself: 10. If you wish to incorporate parts of the Program into other free programs whose distribution conditions are different, write to the author to ask for permission. For software which is copyrighted by the Free Software Founda

Re: reiserfs-utils_3.5.19-1_i386.changes REJECTED (fwd)

2000-06-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 05:16:11PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > And I would still recommend a less ambiguous phrasing. > > I agree. I hope there is a chance to get it changed. Hans seems to be willing to accept a better wording. So if someone can come up wit

Re: (reiserfs) Re: License arguements again (debian specific)

2000-06-17 Thread Martin Douda
Just a few words from the most autoritative source - The GPL itself: 10. If you wish to incorporate parts of the Program into other free programs whose distribution conditions are different, write to the author to ask for permission. For software which is copyrighted by the Free Software Found