Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Seth David Schoen
Oops, my example is less useful than it should have been because of a DNS problem. My "Big Beard Agreement" distribution of GCC may be found at http://ishmael.loyalty.org/~sigma/reductiones-ab-absurda/big-beard-software/ -- Seth David Schoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | And do not say, I will study w

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Seth David Schoen
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 02:21:08AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > From: Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 9. License Must Not Contaminate Other Software > > You may have a point. If you have to click something that says you > are 18 _before_ you download the GPL part, that's probably part of a >

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Lynn Winebarger
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Seth David Schoen wrote: > Henning Makholm writes: > > Note that you won't be able to include any GPLed software in your > > distribution if you want to make restrictions about how and when > > other people or corporations are allowed to redistribute it. > > Where does the GPL

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Seth David Schoen
Peter S Galbraith writes: > Seth David Schoen wrote: > > > Henning Makholm writes: > > > > > Caspian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > I'd just like to state that if anyone out there is interested in making > > > > a > > > > completely, utterly free software GNU/Linux dist, with a lice

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Seth David Schoen
Joseph Carter writes: > On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 02:21:08AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > > > 9. License Must Not Contaminate Other Software > > > > You may have a point. If you have to click something that says you > > are 18 _before_ you download the GPL part, that's probably part of a > > contam

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Seth David Schoen wrote: > Henning Makholm writes: > > > Caspian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > I'd just like to state that if anyone out there is interested in making a > > > completely, utterly free software GNU/Linux dist, with a license that > > > prohibits putzen like those at Corel

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Seth David Schoen
Henning Makholm writes: > Caspian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'd just like to state that if anyone out there is interested in making a > > completely, utterly free software GNU/Linux dist, with a license that > > prohibits putzen like those at Corel from pulling the sort of nonsense > > th

Re: Free Download End User License Agreement

1999-12-01 Thread Peter S Galbraith
FYI, I just got this (anonymous) reply from Corel. Peter --- Forwarded Message Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:45:55 -0500 From: "Feedback Linux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Free Download End User License Agreement Hi Peter, Sorry I was not able to

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 08:08:25AM -0500, Caspian wrote: > Thus, I am wondering if anything can be done. Can there not be a license > made so that a given piece of software cannot be used to fill the pockets > of greedy people-- or at least so that it would be exceedingly difficult > to do so? Sur

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 01:28:52PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > > You may have a point. If you have to click something that says you > > are 18 _before_ you download the GPL part, that's probably part of a > > contaminating license. > > No, they are just selecting who *they* want to distribute

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 04:33:58AM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 02:21:08AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > If there is _ANY_ EULA that you must agree to before you can have the GPL > code it's forcing you to agree to their proprietary software terms. This is just plain wrong.

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Caspian
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Joseph Carter wrote: > Perhaps before suggesting that the DFSG is too lenient you should actually > read it first and second figure out what exactly it allows that is too > lenient. I admit I'm curious, however I'm more or less convinced by the > tone of your message (and all

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 06:25:40AM -0500, Caspian wrote: > I'd just like to state that if anyone out there is interested in making a > completely, utterly free software GNU/Linux dist, with a license that > prohibits putzen like those at Corel from pulling the sort of nonsense > they've been pullin

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 02:21:08AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > > 9. License Must Not Contaminate Other Software > > You may have a point. If you have to click something that says you > are 18 _before_ you download the GPL part, that's probably part of a > contaminating license. But please note th

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Henning Makholm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: > You may have a point. If you have to click something that says you > are 18 _before_ you download the GPL part, that's probably part of a > contaminating license. No, they are just selecting who *they* want to distribute the software to. You don't have t

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Caspian
Maybe at this point, what's really needed is something -stricter- than the GPL. Companies are already starting to walk all over the spirit-- if not the letter-- of the GPL...just one idea, eh? On 1 Dec 1999, Henning Makholm wrote: > Caspian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'd just like to stat

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Henning Makholm
Caspian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd just like to state that if anyone out there is interested in making a > completely, utterly free software GNU/Linux dist, with a license that > prohibits putzen like those at Corel from pulling the sort of nonsense > they've been pulling, Note that you wo

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Caspian
I'd just like to state that if anyone out there is interested in making a completely, utterly free software GNU/Linux dist, with a license that prohibits putzen like those at Corel from pulling the sort of nonsense they've been pulling, (i.e. a license even stricter than Debian's) I'd love to help

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 9. License Must Not Contaminate Other Software You may have a point. If you have to click something that says you are 18 _before_ you download the GPL part, that's probably part of a contaminating license. But please note that my original criticism never e

Re: Dangerous precedent being set - possible serious violation of the GPL

1999-12-01 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Nov 29, 1999 at 10:54:42AM -0700, Richard Stallman wrote: > I looked at the web page you sent me. It does not seem to violate > the GPL as regards the GPL-covered programs included in it, > although there are some subtle issues I haven't yet figured out. > > It does say that some non-free