Re: X etc. with Debian on Vaio F340

2001-02-23 Thread Stephan Fabel
Hi, Steven K Thompson wrote: I would appreciate any advice on getting X etc. to work with my Sony Vaio F340. It has the NeoMagic NM2200 Chipset. When I type startx I get a blank, grainy screen, and nothing else happens. The trackpad does move the pointer, however. During installation

/usr/include/linux (WAS: _PCMCIA_"make_all"_errors)

2001-02-23 Thread Torsten Reuss
Manfred Wassmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW it is a bad idea that was suggested earlier to delete > /usr/include/linux. On Debian those files are used to compile > application > programs only and have nothing to do with the kernel you are > compiling. AFAIK, debian is the only distribution

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread brew
Heather and Daniel and all the list. I added unstable to my sources.list (testing didn't have it) and got ssh2 via apt-get and I can now connect via ssh Protocol 2. I then removed the unstable lines from my sources.list and updated, it seems I'm back to just cacheing the stable stuff, but no

Re: lie to apt

2001-02-23 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 08:23:58AM -0800, Heather wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 10:13:23AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: > > > Is there a way to manually edit the database that says which packages > > > are installed? I set up a small system, using potato, and am adding > > > several packages fr

Re: [jakemsr@clipper.net: Re: lie to apt]

2001-02-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jacob Meuser wrote: > - Forwarded message from Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 06:16:22PM -0500, xsdg wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 10:13:23AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: > > > Is there a way to manually edit the database that says which packages

Re: /usr/include/linux_(WAS:_PCMCIA_"make_all"_errors)?

2001-02-23 Thread Manfred Wassmann
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Torsten Reuss wrote: > Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:28:04 +0200 > From: Torsten Reuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-laptop@lists.debian.org > Subject: > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?/usr/include/linux_(WAS:_=5FPCMCIA=5F=22make=5Fall=22=5Ferr > ors)?= > > Manfred

Re: lie to apt

2001-02-23 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 11:37:29AM +0200, Mail Delivery System wrote: > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). > > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: > >

update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Donnie Jones
Hey all, Thanks again for your help yet, I have returned, but with, I believe to be, a simpler problem. I installed kernel 2.2.17 using the make-kpkg as you suggested, and it worked out just fine. The source for the pcmcia compiled and the module for my IBM EtherJet card is shown when I do "

Re: update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Bud Rogers
On Friday 23 February 2001 12:20, Donnie Jones wrote: > Hey all, > > Thanks again for your help yet, I have returned, > but with, I believe to be, a simpler problem. > > I installed kernel 2.2.17 using the make-kpkg as you > suggested, and it worked out just fine. The source > for the pcmcia c

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread Heather
Forwarded back into the list because it's important :) It isn't really laptop-ish anymore, but we laptop folks use ssh *a lot*! I went back and looked at the descriptions - he's right, it does say OpenSSH, but it does *not* says SSH2 support... ...and the version isn't OpenSSH 2.3.0, it's 1.2 so

Re: /usr/include/linux (WAS: _PCMCIA_"make_all"_errors)

2001-02-23 Thread Heather
> Manfred Wassmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > BTW it is a bad idea that was suggested earlier to delete > > /usr/include/linux. On Debian those files are used to compile > > application > > programs only and have nothing to do with the kernel you are > > compiling. > > AFAIK, debian is th

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread brew
Heather and the list. > *Now* I'll try to answer the right question :D > >a) unstable's 'ssh' is OpenSSH, deb version 1:2.3.0p1-1.13 > testing's 'ssh' is OpenSSH, deb version 1:1.2.3-9.2 > not good enough to stick with testing :( Actually I didn't install the unstabl

Re: update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Donnie Jones
--- Thomas Vogels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Donnie Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hey all, > > > > Thanks again for your help yet, I have > returned, > > but with, I believe to be, a simpler problem. > > > > I installed kernel 2.2.17 using the make-kpkg as > you > > suggested,

Re: update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Heather
> Hi Donnie, > > I was never able to get the Etherjet card working in my Thinkpad 240. > I compiled newer kernels, up to 2.2.18pre something, I downloaded and > compiled the newest pcmcia-cs sources. Nothing ever worked for me with > that card. Finally I replaced it with a D-Link DFE-650, wh

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > I can't connect to ssh1 now, but I'm sure I can config it to drop back > automatically, besides what I really needed was Protocol 2, I had to > connect to a machine which has no telnetd and only listens sshd Prot > 2. If nothing else, try usi

Re: update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Bud Rogers
On Friday 23 February 2001 17:43, Heather wrote: > > Hi Donnie, > > > > I was never able to get the Etherjet card working in my Thinkpad > > 240. I compiled newer kernels, up to 2.2.18pre something, I > > downloaded and compiled the newest pcmcia-cs sources. Nothing ever > > worked for me with tha

Re: update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Heather
Bud: > > > I was never able to get the Etherjet card working in my Thinkpad 240. ... > > > Finally I replaced it with a D-Link DFE-650, which cost about 1/3 ... me: > > That's the same card I use. Congrats, Bud, glad you found something. > > It would have been nice to see it fixed, and maybe som

Re: X etc. with Debian on Vaio F340

2001-02-23 Thread Neil L. Roeth
Check the file $HOME/.xsession-errors for clues. Also, I've had better luck with xf86config than with XF86Setup. On Feb 22, Steven K Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I would appreciate any advice on getting X etc. to work with my > Sony Vaio F340. It has the NeoMagic NM2200 Chipset. >

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread brew
> If nothing else, try using the '-1' and '-v' arguments to ssh. '-1' asks > for protocol one only, '-v' shows debug messages about the progress. I'd been using -v, that's how I know when I use the wrong protocol. -1 is an illegal option. :( Too bad, that would have been fine. So. I thou

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread brew
> I'm still searching for the way to config this to degrade to SSH1 > automatically. Adding more to my own message. I found that even though it wasn't a commented out option in the ssh2 config file the man page claims that 'Ssh1compatibility yes' is a configuration option. I added it to ssh2.co

network problems on inspiron 8000

2001-02-23 Thread Luke Shulenburger
Hello, I've been running unstable on my laptop for about a month now and just recently when I booted up I can't get anything on the network. Whenever I try to ping localhost (or any other host for that matter) I get: ping: sendto: Network is unreachable I don't have a clue what's going on. I ha

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread brew
Sorry about over messaging the list. > I found that even though it wasn't a commented out option in the ssh2 > config file the man page claims that 'Ssh1compatibility yes' is a > configuration option. I added it to ssh2.conf and I still get an illegal > protocol error from the SSH1 server.

Re: update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Drew Parsons
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 02:58:57PM -0800, Donnie Jones wrote: > > -- what does your routing table look like? > > I looked at my routing table and there is nothing > there. This is the output from "lsmod" and I tried > "depmod -a" and found out there are more "unresolved > symbols" of which I wa

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread Drew Parsons
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 05:52:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Heather and the list. > > > *Now* I'll try to answer the right question :D > > > >a) unstable's 'ssh' is OpenSSH, deb version 1:2.3.0p1-1.13 > > testing's 'ssh' is OpenSSH, deb version 1:1.2.3-9.2 > >

Re: update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Donnie Jones
--- Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 02:58:57PM -0800, Donnie > Jones wrote: > > > -- what does your routing table look like? > > > > I looked at my routing table and there is nothing > > there. This is the output from "lsmod" and I tried > > "depmod -a" and fo

Re: X etc. with Debian on Vaio F340

2001-02-23 Thread Stephan Fabel
Hi, Steven K Thompson wrote: > I would appreciate any advice on getting X etc. to work with my > Sony Vaio F340. It has the NeoMagic NM2200 Chipset. > > When I type startx I get a blank, grainy screen, and nothing else > happens. The trackpad does move the pointer, however. > > During

/usr/include/linux (WAS: _PCMCIA_"make_all"_errors)

2001-02-23 Thread Torsten Reuss
Manfred Wassmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW it is a bad idea that was suggested earlier to delete > /usr/include/linux. On Debian those files are used to compile > application > programs only and have nothing to do with the kernel you are > compiling. AFAIK, debian is the only distribution

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread brew
Heather and Daniel and all the list. I added unstable to my sources.list (testing didn't have it) and got ssh2 via apt-get and I can now connect via ssh Protocol 2. I then removed the unstable lines from my sources.list and updated, it seems I'm back to just cacheing the stable stuff, but n

Re: lie to apt

2001-02-23 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 08:23:58AM -0800, Heather wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 10:13:23AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: > > > Is there a way to manually edit the database that says which packages > > > are installed? I set up a small system, using potato, and am adding > > > several packages f

Re: [jakemsr@clipper.net: Re: lie to apt]

2001-02-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jacob Meuser wrote: > - Forwarded message from Jacob Meuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 06:16:22PM -0500, xsdg wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 10:13:23AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: > > > Is there a way to manually edit the database that says which packages

Re: /usr/include/linux_(WAS:_PCMCIA_"make_all"_errors)?

2001-02-23 Thread Manfred Wassmann
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Torsten Reuss wrote: > Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:28:04 +0200 > From: Torsten Reuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?/usr/include/linux_(WAS:_=5FPCMCIA=5F=22make=5Fall=22=5Ferr > ors)?= > > Manfred Wassmann <[E

Re: lie to apt

2001-02-23 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 11:37:29AM +0200, Mail Delivery System wrote: > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). > > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: > >

update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Donnie Jones
Hey all, Thanks again for your help yet, I have returned, but with, I believe to be, a simpler problem. I installed kernel 2.2.17 using the make-kpkg as you suggested, and it worked out just fine. The source for the pcmcia compiled and the module for my IBM EtherJet card is shown when I do

Re: update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Bud Rogers
On Friday 23 February 2001 12:20, Donnie Jones wrote: > Hey all, > > Thanks again for your help yet, I have returned, > but with, I believe to be, a simpler problem. > > I installed kernel 2.2.17 using the make-kpkg as you > suggested, and it worked out just fine. The source > for the pcmcia

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread Heather
Forwarded back into the list because it's important :) It isn't really laptop-ish anymore, but we laptop folks use ssh *a lot*! I went back and looked at the descriptions - he's right, it does say OpenSSH, but it does *not* says SSH2 support... ...and the version isn't OpenSSH 2.3.0, it's 1.2 s

Re: /usr/include/linux (WAS: _PCMCIA_"make_all"_errors)

2001-02-23 Thread Heather
> Manfred Wassmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > BTW it is a bad idea that was suggested earlier to delete > > /usr/include/linux. On Debian those files are used to compile > > application > > programs only and have nothing to do with the kernel you are > > compiling. > > AFAIK, debian is t

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread brew
Heather and the list. > *Now* I'll try to answer the right question :D > >a) unstable's 'ssh' is OpenSSH, deb version 1:2.3.0p1-1.13 > testing's 'ssh' is OpenSSH, deb version 1:1.2.3-9.2 > not good enough to stick with testing :( Actually I didn't install the unstab

Re: update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Donnie Jones
--- Thomas Vogels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Donnie Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hey all, > > > > Thanks again for your help yet, I have > returned, > > but with, I believe to be, a simpler problem. > > > > I installed kernel 2.2.17 using the make-kpkg as > you > > suggested

Re: update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Heather
> Hi Donnie, > > I was never able to get the Etherjet card working in my Thinkpad 240. > I compiled newer kernels, up to 2.2.18pre something, I downloaded and > compiled the newest pcmcia-cs sources. Nothing ever worked for me with > that card. Finally I replaced it with a D-Link DFE-650, w

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > I can't connect to ssh1 now, but I'm sure I can config it to drop back > automatically, besides what I really needed was Protocol 2, I had to > connect to a machine which has no telnetd and only listens sshd Prot > 2. If nothing else, try us

Re: update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Bud Rogers
On Friday 23 February 2001 17:43, Heather wrote: > > Hi Donnie, > > > > I was never able to get the Etherjet card working in my Thinkpad > > 240. I compiled newer kernels, up to 2.2.18pre something, I > > downloaded and compiled the newest pcmcia-cs sources. Nothing ever > > worked for me with th

Re: update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Heather
Bud: > > > I was never able to get the Etherjet card working in my Thinkpad 240. ... > > > Finally I replaced it with a D-Link DFE-650, which cost about 1/3 ... me: > > That's the same card I use. Congrats, Bud, glad you found something. > > It would have been nice to see it fixed, and maybe so

Re: X etc. with Debian on Vaio F340

2001-02-23 Thread Neil L. Roeth
Check the file $HOME/.xsession-errors for clues. Also, I've had better luck with xf86config than with XF86Setup. On Feb 22, Steven K Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I would appreciate any advice on getting X etc. to work with my > Sony Vaio F340. It has the NeoMagic NM2200 Chipset.

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread brew
> If nothing else, try using the '-1' and '-v' arguments to ssh. '-1' asks > for protocol one only, '-v' shows debug messages about the progress. I'd been using -v, that's how I know when I use the wrong protocol. -1 is an illegal option. :( Too bad, that would have been fine. So. I tho

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread brew
> I'm still searching for the way to config this to degrade to SSH1 > automatically. Adding more to my own message. I found that even though it wasn't a commented out option in the ssh2 config file the man page claims that 'Ssh1compatibility yes' is a configuration option. I added it to ssh2.c

network problems on inspiron 8000

2001-02-23 Thread Luke Shulenburger
Hello, I've been running unstable on my laptop for about a month now and just recently when I booted up I can't get anything on the network. Whenever I try to ping localhost (or any other host for that matter) I get: ping: sendto: Network is unreachable I don't have a clue what's going on. I h

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread brew
Sorry about over messaging the list. > I found that even though it wasn't a commented out option in the ssh2 > config file the man page claims that 'Ssh1compatibility yes' is a > configuration option. I added it to ssh2.conf and I still get an illegal > protocol error from the SSH1 server.

Re: update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Drew Parsons
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 02:58:57PM -0800, Donnie Jones wrote: > > -- what does your routing table look like? > > I looked at my routing table and there is nothing > there. This is the output from "lsmod" and I tried > "depmod -a" and found out there are more "unresolved > symbols" of which I w

Re: ssh2 and non-stable

2001-02-23 Thread Drew Parsons
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 05:52:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Heather and the list. > > > *Now* I'll try to answer the right question :D > > > >a) unstable's 'ssh' is OpenSSH, deb version 1:2.3.0p1-1.13 > > testing's 'ssh' is OpenSSH, deb version 1:1.2.3-9.2 > >

Re: update: PCMCIA "make all" errors

2001-02-23 Thread Donnie Jones
--- Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 02:58:57PM -0800, Donnie > Jones wrote: > > > -- what does your routing table look like? > > > > I looked at my routing table and there is nothing > > there. This is the output from "lsmod" and I tried > > "depmod -a" and f

Re: network problems on inspiron 8000

2001-02-23 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:32:18PM -0500, Luke Shulenburger wrote: > Hello, > I've been running unstable on my laptop for about a month now and just > recently when I booted up I can't get anything on the network. Whenever > I try to ping localhost (or any other host for that matter) I get: > >