[You might want to move the thread to d-u - the issues don't seem to be
particularly laptop related, and it'll get more attention there.]
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:33:43 +0800 (WST)
Bret Busby wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Celejar wrote:
>
> > This is your crash. The 'Error in I830WaitLpRing()' b
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Celejar wrote:
This is your crash. The 'Error in I830WaitLpRing()' business is
apparently a common bug with the Xorg drivers for Intel graphic
chipsets. I've experienced this myself, but not for about a year. My
bug report is here:
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cg
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:02:27 +0800 (WST)
Bret Busby wrote:
...
> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old (shows last crash, which occurred tonight, after
> (I believe) less than a day of running) is below.
When looking at Xorg crash logs, one looks for lines beginning with
'(EE)' [(II) - information, (WW) - w
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Bret Busby wrote:
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:11:10 +0800 (WST)
From: Bret Busby
To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: what laptop to buy - suggestion for Debian project developers
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Celejar wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:51:47 +0800 (WST
Same for Toshiba Satellite A200 Series. I own A200 1GH. Everything runs
out of the box. Did not check out modem though :)
В Срд, 17/02/2010 в 17:00 -0500, Robert Goley пишет:
> I would agree that many are support now. I have had a lot of luck with
> Toshiba. They seem to have more models that ha
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:11:10 +0800 (WST)
Bret Busby wrote:
...
> In the meantime, what is IW?
Iceweasel.
Celejar
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Celejar wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:51:47 +0800 (WST)
Bret Busby wrote:
...
So, I am stick with my NX5000, with a Celeron and 2GB RAM, and, my
desktop with (from memory) an AMD K7 and 2GB RAM, and frequent crashes
(every day or so), due to running out of memory, due t
I would agree that many are support now. I have had a lot of luck with
Toshiba. They seem to have more models that have compliant components.
If you want a serious development laptop, Look at the X505 series. I
ordered one with a quad core i7 series with hyperthreading 6 GB ram, 64
GB solid
> So, it appears that, in Western Australia, neither laptop computers, nor
> desktop computers, are available, that are new, that are compatible with
> Linux, and that are reasonably priced (under 1100 AUD), and that can do what
> I want (including 1240x1024 graphics resolution).
Don't about Weste
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:51:47 +0800 (WST)
Bret Busby wrote:
...
> So, I am stick with my NX5000, with a Celeron and 2GB RAM, and, my
> desktop with (from memory) an AMD K7 and 2GB RAM, and frequent crashes
> (every day or so), due to running out of memory, due to web browsers
> (the Mozilla ba
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, SAMUEL JOSE PEREIRA CARNEIRO MACDOWELL wrote:
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:32:57 -0300 (BRT)
From: SAMUEL JOSE PEREIRA CARNEIRO MACDOWELL
To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: what laptop to buy - suggestion for Debian project developers
Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb
before buy a HP lap top I suggest look at the site below
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01087277&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
My Pavilion tx1420us had the problems described albeit is not mentioned
among the computers for recall. So I had to pay to have it fixed.
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 22:12 -0500, Celejar wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:05:33 -0500
> Giff Hammar wrote:
>
> [please trim replies]
>
> > There is an extended recovery console for Windoze that does completely
> > hijack the boot process. I had installed it on my IBM notebook and it
> > prevent
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:05:33 -0500
Giff Hammar wrote:
[please trim replies]
> There is an extended recovery console for Windoze that does completely
> hijack the boot process. I had installed it on my IBM notebook and it
> prevented me from booting to anything other than the HDD. It was so bad
>
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Daniel Dalton
wrote:
[snip]
I want something with really good battery life, perhaps
5 hours or more.
This is where life becomes complicated. A factor which you need to
consider is useful battery lifetime (as opposed to battery capacity,
which determines co
godo wrote:
Russell L. Harris wrote:
An fairly-easy way to learn which chassis and which components work
with Debian is to seek out the web site of a builder who builds
Debian-compatible machines, and look over the detailed list of
components which he uses. So do a search on "debian laptop"
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 18:00 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Bret Busby wrote:
>
> >
> > On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, António PT wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I agree with Jason. I have an HP laptop. Its wireless card is supported
> >> (ath5k) and so is the graphic board (ATI - with open source driv
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:49:29 +0100
Florian Reitmeir wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Bret Busby wrote:
...
> > However, the computer ignored the BIOS setting, and went straight to the
> > HDD, to boot into MS Winows, with no other booting allowed.
> >
> > Thus, it appears that HP/Compaq has turne
Maybe it would simply be a waste of time, including an application to
test for hardware compatibility, in Linux Live CD's, when computer
manufacturers design their computers to prevent them running anything
other than MS Windows.
I today went to a computer retailer, and attempted to boot an
Russell L. Harris wrote:
An fairly-easy way to learn which chassis and which components work with
Debian is to seek out the web site of a builder who builds
Debian-compatible machines, and look over the detailed list of
components which he uses. So do a search on "debian laptop" and start
go
Of course, the key is to select a laptop in the peripherals have been
selected on the basis of the availability of Debian drivers.
In the entire world, there are only about a half-dozen manufacturers
(two of them being Clevo and Asus) of the bare-bones chassis (which
consists of little more th
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Bret Busby wrote:
Maybe it would simply be a waste of time, including an application to
test for hardware compatibility, in Linux Live CD's, when computer
manufacturers design their computers to prevent them running anything
other than MS Windows.
I today went to a
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Bret Busby wrote:
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, António PT wrote:
I agree with Jason. I have an HP laptop. Its wireless card is supported
(ath5k) and so is the graphic board (ATI - with open source drivers).
2010/2/6 Jason Filippou
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Daniel Dalton
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, António PT wrote:
I agree with Jason. I have an HP laptop. Its wireless card is supported
(ath5k) and so is the graphic board (ATI - with open source drivers).
2010/2/6 Jason Filippou
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Daniel Dalton
wrote:
Hi all,
I'm having great diffi
I agree with Jason. I have an HP laptop. Its wireless card is supported
(ath5k) and so is the graphic board (ATI - with open source drivers).
2010/2/6 Jason Filippou
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Daniel Dalton
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm having great difficulty in finding a laptop sui
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm having great difficulty in finding a laptop suitable for my
> needs. I'm vision impaired and a student, so primarily will use the machine
> for
> school, and at home.
>
> Here is what I'm looking for: good debian linux suppor
Daniel,
Be careful with non-recent ATI FireGL video cards, that was working bad for
some time (dunno today though). Some older Thinkpads still ship with these.
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> if it were me, i would be narrowing that list a little, the only decent
> machine you mentioned would be toshiba. top 3 machines for customer
> satisfaction, reliability are asus, sony, toshiba. check out system76 as
> well, using a pangolin here, very impressed.
That list of manufacturers/bra
> have been using a T60p for over 4 years by now and still very happy with it.
> Essentially all hardware components are supported by Linux (except for
> the modem).
Also very happy with my T60 (no p).
> Mine is still IBM branded and i don't know how the quality changed since
> the Lenovo takeov
2010/1/20 Daniel Dalton :
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:00:18AM -0500, Tim Tebbit wrote:
>> Ditto to the T61/Lenovo suggestions. There is also very good
>> documentation on the entire ThinkPad series.
>>
>> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
>>
>> and a great list
>>
>> http://dir.gmane.org/gma
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:00:18AM -0500, Tim Tebbit wrote:
> Ditto to the T61/Lenovo suggestions. There is also very good
> documentation on the entire ThinkPad series.
>
> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
>
> and a great list
>
> http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.hardware.thinkpad
I'll
Thanks, I'll give this one a look also. I hear very good things about
the thinkpads, which is excellent.
Thanks for everyone's help.
Daniel.
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 05:47:48PM +0100, Imre Vida wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:00:18AM -0500, Tim Tebbit wrote:
> > Daniel Dalton wrote:
> > > Yes
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:00:18AM -0500, Tim Tebbit wrote:
> Daniel Dalton wrote:
> > Yes, thanks for sharing.
> >
> > I'm going to increase my budget by $800, and get a Lenovo thinkpad
> > X200. Anyone got one of these, what do you think of it?
> >
> > I found it on amazon for $1100, which I c
Daniel Dalton wrote:
> Yes, thanks for sharing.
>
> I'm going to increase my budget by $800, and get a Lenovo thinkpad
> X200. Anyone got one of these, what do you think of it?
>
> I found it on amazon for $1100, which I could probably get shipped out
> here to Australia by a third party, for un
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 09:34:00PM +1300, James Clark wrote:
> Daniel Dalton wrote:
> >have to pay Au$2,000 to buy one locally?
>
> I wouldn't pay more than $1300nz for a new laptop. That way you can
> get an upgrade every 18 months, by which time the hardware will be
> faster, break more often,
2010/1/19 James Clark :
> Daniel Dalton wrote:
>>
>> have to pay Au$2,000 to buy one locally?
Hi daniel,
I'm currently use a dell vostro 1400, it works flawlessy full
functional wifi, microphone, touchpad.
You can buy it with ubuntu installed on it in america or you can
refuse the window license
Daniel Dalton wrote:
have to pay Au$2,000 to buy one locally?
I wouldn't pay more than $1300nz for a new laptop. That way you can get
an upgrade every 18 months, by which time the hardware will be faster,
break more often, be more closed and require MS more.
I'm on a Toshiba, don't think I
Yes, thanks for sharing.
I'm going to increase my budget by $800, and get a Lenovo thinkpad
X200. Anyone got one of these, what do you think of it?
I found it on amazon for $1100, which I could probably get shipped out
here to Australia by a third party, for under au$1300, in total
costs. Howeve
> Dan, you should definetely ask the computer retailers in your area
> about Debian (or just mention Linux) support on the laptop. Even
> though chances are slim that they will bother making a recomendation,
> if we do not let them know that there exists a Debian / Linux market
> then they will nev
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 02:28:38PM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
> Agree to that. And in some countries where laptops are sold with Windows
> product installed by default, many manufacturer will propose to move it away
> and to give you some money back. Check that on the web site of the
> manuf
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 07:25:56PM +0100, Krzysztof Walkiewicz wrote:
> Maybe that link will be useful for you:
>
> http://www.emperorlinux.com/mfgr/lenovo/toucan/
Thanks, had a quick read, looks handy.
Dan
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Thierry Chatelet wrote:
Dan, you should definetely ask the computer retailers in your area
about Debian (or just mention Linux) support on the laptop. Even
though chances are slim that they will bother making a recomendation,
if we do not let them know that there exists a Debian / Linux market
th
> Dan, you should definetely ask the computer retailers in your area
> about Debian (or just mention Linux) support on the laptop. Even
> though chances are slim that they will bother making a recomendation,
> if we do not let them know that there exists a Debian / Linux market
> then they will ne
2010/1/18 Daniel Dalton :
> Hi all,
>
> I'm having great difficulty in finding a laptop suitable for my
> needs. I'm vision impaired and a student, so primarily will use the machine
> for
> school, and at home.
>
> Here is what I'm looking for: good debian linux support, including wifi,
> ethernet
> Daniel Dalton wrote:
>> I'm having great difficulty in finding a laptop suitable for my
>> needs. I'm vision impaired and a student, so primarily will use the machine
>> for
>> school, and at home.
>>
>> Here is what I'm looking for: good debian linux support, including wifi,
>> ethernet, sound
Daniel Dalton wrote:
Hi all,
I'm having great difficulty in finding a laptop suitable for my
needs. I'm vision impaired and a student, so primarily will use the machine for
school, and at home.
Here is what I'm looking for: good debian linux support, including wifi,
ethernet, sound, and the g
Hi all,
I'm having great difficulty in finding a laptop suitable for my
needs. I'm vision impaired and a student, so primarily will use the machine for
school, and at home.
Here is what I'm looking for: good debian linux support, including wifi,
ethernet, sound, and the general hardware of the m
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