Am Freitag, 12. Februar 2016, 11:48:10 CET schrieb herve:
> On 11/02/2016 22:25, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > I don´t think it is proven that SSDs fail earlier than HDDs. So far none of
> > the SSDs I use have failed and one is almost 5 years, still thinking about
> > itself that it is actually al
On 02/12/2016 11:48 AM, herve wrote:
> There can be any proof or factual data yet because this is a very young
> technology. But what we know is that there is a limited number of write
> cycle. Of course hdd can fail with mechanical problems ssd don't have.
> From what i read, ssd are much much f
On 11/02/2016 22:25, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
I don´t think it is proven that SSDs fail earlier than HDDs. So far none of
the SSDs I use have failed and one is almost 5 years, still thinking about
itself that it is actually almost new according to SMART data. And the only
reason it isn´t older i
Am Donnerstag, 11. Februar 2016, 21:40:20 CET schrieb herve:
> On 11/02/2016 15:23, Stefan Monnier wrote
> > I have it all on my SSD, and I use daily backups.
> > Before that, I used an HDD, with the same daily backups.
> >
> > If you don't perform regular backups, then clearly you don't care about
On 11/02/2016 15:23, Stefan Monnier wrote
I have it all on my SSD, and I use daily backups.
Before that, I used an HDD, with the same daily backups.
If you don't perform regular backups, then clearly you don't care about your
data, so why bother trying to distinguish if the HDD is ever so slight
> I have learned that if an SSD fails, it is difficult to recover data
> from them.
That's true of all storage media.
> An SSD often does not give much warning before it fails.
Not sure if it applies to all storage media, but Google hasn't had much
success in predicting failure of its HDDs, so m
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Subject: Re: Home Directory in SSD
Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2016, 00:11:30 CET schrieb Aleksandar Atanasov:
> As for the quality of SSDs - yes, it has improved greatly (exam
On Mon, 8 Feb 2016, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> On the other hand, mailboxes and Maildirs really like to live on SSDs -
> if you're one of those dinosaurs like me who still like to fetch all
> their e-mail locally and use a local MUA to read it.
I thought every real geek uses SSH into their own mai
On Sat, Feb 06, 2016 at 03:03:24PM +0100, Aleksandar Atanasov wrote:
> Hi Jos,
>
> Usually SSDs are used to store things that you want to load as fast as
> possible. Generally this includes files, that the OS requires during its
> booting, application that you use very often etc. I would recommend
Hi!
I see no issues against uses btrfs send/receive or rsync as backup from SSD to
HDD. With btrfs send/receive I think after the initial sync it can even work
quickly enough to have it run every 10 minutes or so. But if RAID allows
write-mostly, why not. I think BTRFS RAID does not (yet).
Am
Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2016, 22:06:16 CET schrieb Jos Collin:
> On 02/07/2016 03:50 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > If you have both an SSD and a HD in your machine, how about rsync or BTRFS
> > send and receive to regularily backup /home from SSD to HD?
> >
> > With BTRFS on the HD, you can eve
Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2016, 00:57:24 CET schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas:
I consider two possibilities for my home PC
1. mirror SSD and HDD (I currently have two old 120 HDDs in mirror)
On 07.02.16 11:12, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
I think this can be done with regular rsync or btrfs send/recei
On 02/07/2016 03:50 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
If you have both an SSD and a HD in your machine, how about rsync or BTRFS
send and receive to regularily backup /home from SSD to HD?
With BTRFS on the HD, you can even snapshot your backup states and if you
accidentally delete a file get it b
Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2016, 08:48:55 CET schrieb Jos Collin:
> Hi,
Hi Jos,
> First of all, I apologize for starting an off-topic discussion.
>
> i'm using an Intel 535 Series 120GB SSD. So I believe that it is
> reliable and good quality product.
I am very pleased with my Intel SSD 320 and bac
Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2016, 00:57:24 CET schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas:
> On 06.02.16 19:30, Jos Collin wrote:
> >I have Debian/testing installed completely in my 120GB SSD. I have
> >learned that if an SSD fails, it is difficult to recover data from
> >them. An SSD often does not give much warni
Am Sonntag, 7. Februar 2016, 00:11:30 CET schrieb Aleksandar Atanasov:
> As for the quality of SSDs - yes, it has improved greatly (example for
> some test of longevity:
> http://techreport.com/review/27436/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-two-freaking
> -petabytes). I have read however that SSDs are m
Hi,
First of all, I apologize for starting an off-topic discussion.
i'm using an Intel 535 Series 120GB SSD. So I believe that it is
reliable and good quality product.
I don't have any videos in any of my computers, all of them are moved to
DVDs and I consider them as unnecessary. I have onl
On 06.02.16 19:30, Jos Collin wrote:
I have Debian/testing installed completely in my 120GB SSD. I have
learned that if an SSD fails, it is difficult to recover data from
them. An SSD often does not give much warning before it fails.
Electronic components don’t begin to grind or buzz as they gro
Backups are usually supposed to be done on a different storage device
than the one that is actively used. I wouldn't include the "backup
scenario" here unless Jos is doing backups of a storage device onto the
storage device itself (if that is the case I would strongly recommend
NOT to do that).
As
Doing regular backups takes pretty good care of device failure.
Depending on how it is done, it also can help recover from accidents
other than equipment failure, like deleting files in error.
That said, I have read that for some time SSD reliability has been at
least on a par with HDDs. And you
Am Samstag, 6. Februar 2016, 16:41:59 CET schrieb Aleksandar Atanasov:
> You have to determine where exactly is speed required with your files.
> As it was already mentioned (twice) speed is required only for certain
> things. Putting a video file that is opened once every couple of days is
> most
You have to determine where exactly is speed required with your files.
As it was already mentioned (twice) speed is required only for certain
things. Putting a video file that is opened once every couple of days is
most certainly not crutial to the system's performance. I haven't heard
anyone ever
Keeping everything on the SSD has its advantage too - speed. But won't
secure the data on the fly as keeping it on the HDD.
Actually I'm confused which method to follow. Both has its own advantage
and disadvantage.
On 06-Feb-2016 7:54 PM, "Bennett Piater" wrote:
> I just keep everything on my ss
I have to agree with Aleksandar. The SSD is the place that you need to put
the OS, software that is used regularly, and under some circumstances
temporary large datasets that are being used repetitively during a working
problem ( ie stacking.) Your home partition, and mundane data should be
moved
Hi Jos,
Usually SSDs are used to store things that you want to load as fast as
possible. Generally this includes files, that the OS requires during its
booting, application that you use very often etc. I would recommend that
you store things like Music, Documents, Videos etc. to an HDD not only
be
Hello,
I have Debian/testing installed completely in my 120GB SSD. I have
learned that if an SSD fails, it is difficult to recover data from them.
An SSD often does not give much warning before it fails.
Electronic components don’t begin to grind or buzz as they grow older.
They work – and the
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