ti_usb's firmware (Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue)

2007-01-18 Thread Oleg Verych
Hallo. On 2007-01-06, Frederik Schueler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [] > > > Now, removing all these drivers is a workaround so we can release ASAP. > > The real solution needs to be addressed after the release, as was > already stated in the discussion prior to the GR: > > - have vendors re-releas

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 08:16:50PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070116 15:06]: > > On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 06:05:44PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > * Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070114 15:21]: > > > > This fix and the prefered patch (attached) needs

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-18 Thread Andreas Barth
* Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070116 15:06]: > On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 06:05:44PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070114 15:21]: > > > This fix and the prefered patch (attached) needs testing to make sure > > > the following things works fine: > > > - lin

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-16 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 06:05:44PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070114 15:21]: > > This fix and the prefered patch (attached) needs testing to make sure > > the following things works fine: > > - linux-patch-debian-*/linux-tree-* > > - linux-modules-* > > What

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-14 Thread Andreas Barth
* Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070114 15:21]: > On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 12:36:37AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > > Actually, there is another way to do it - hardcode to -dfsg for now, so > > this is a change that needs to be reverted at the beginning of the Lenny > > cycle. But I think it is

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-14 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 05:35:38PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070114 16:14]: > > --- debian/changelog(revision 3362) > > +++ debian/changelog(local) > > @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ > > -linux-2.6 (2.6.18-9) UNRELEASED; urgency=low > > +linux-2.6 (2.6.18.d

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-14 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, thanks for the patch. One small issue: * Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070114 16:14]: > --- debian/changelog (revision 3362) > +++ debian/changelog (local) > @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ > -linux-2.6 (2.6.18-9) UNRELEASED; urgency=low > +linux-2.6 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-9) UNRELEASED; urgency=low The stan

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-14 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 03:20:52PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > This fix and the prefered patch (attached) needs testing to make sure > the following things works fine: > - linux-patch-debian-*/linux-tree-* > - linux-modules-* Update; fixes the internal knowledge about the upstream version. This

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-14 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 12:36:37AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > Actually, there is another way to do it - hardcode to -dfsg for now, so > this is a change that needs to be reverted at the beginning of the Lenny > cycle. But I think it is still better then the other one, and I don't > think it hurt

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-14 Thread Andreas Barth
* Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070114 00:37]: > -Depends: linux-patch-debian-2.6.18 (= 2.6.18-8), linux-source-2.6.18 (= > 2.6.18-1) | linux-source-2.6.18 (= 2.6.18-2) | linux-source-2.6.18 (= > 2.6.18-3) | linux-source-2.6.18 (= 2.6.18-4) | linux-source-2.6.18 (= > 2.6.18-5) | linux-sourc

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-13 Thread Andreas Barth
* Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070113 14:28]: > * Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070113 10:33]: > > * Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070108 12:21]: > > > * Bastian Blank: > > > > > > > Not possible without another large round of testing. Our infrastracture > > > > currently expects

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-13 Thread Andreas Barth
* Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070108 12:21]: > * Bastian Blank: > > > Not possible without another large round of testing. Our infrastracture > > currently expects that the upstream part of the version remains > > the same through the whole cycle. This information is for example used > > t

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-10 Thread Jeff Carr
On 01/09/07 14:57, dann frazier wrote: > my Keyspan device. I'm not a lawyer, but its also questionable to me > whether or not the license permits us to distribute it an the the > non-free modules package. It's probably best to assume that IBM's legal team knows what they are doing on this one :)

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-09 Thread dann frazier
(Removing -release, as requested) On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 03:22:51PM -0800, Jeff Carr wrote: > What doesn't make sense to me is to throw out stuff like this because > we don't have the code. aiui, its being dropped out of main because it is not legal for us or our users to modify it in its curre

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-09 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 03:22:51PM -0800, Jeff Carr wrote: > What is > best for the free software movement going forward in your opinion? Discussing this, if you must discuss it at all, on a discussion list. That means -project or -kernel, but not -release, please. -- Daniel Jacobowitz CodeSourc

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff Carr
On 01/09/07 11:50, dann frazier wrote: > On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 07:49:19PM -0800, Jeff Carr wrote: >> I've not seen conclusive evidence that the keyspan firmware file is >> not the best effort of freeness. > > "This firmware may not be modified and may only be used with > Keyspan hardware." > >

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-09 Thread dann frazier
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 07:49:19PM -0800, Jeff Carr wrote: > I've not seen conclusive evidence that the keyspan firmware file is > not the best effort of freeness. "This firmware may not be modified and may only be used with Keyspan hardware." That cannot be considered a best effort of freeness.

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-08 Thread Jeff Carr
On 01/08/07 17:47, Sam Morris wrote: > On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 19:49:19 -0800, Jeff Carr wrote: >> On 01/06/07 10:13, Marco d'Itri wrote: >>> In linux.debian.devel.release Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So keyspan USB devices will be useless with Debian kernels in the very near future,

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-08 Thread Jeff Carr
On 01/06/07 10:13, Marco d'Itri wrote: > In linux.debian.devel.release Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So keyspan USB devices will be useless with Debian kernels in the very >> near future, since there is no alternative to the kernel driver? > Looks so. But we will have the most free ke

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-08 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bastian Blank: > Not possible without another large round of testing. Our infrastracture > currently expects that the upstream part of the version remains > the same through the whole cycle. This information is for example used > to find all patches. Uhm, why can't you do a simple full upload j

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-07 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 01:52:24PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > That's a big drawback. Please change the *version* of the package instead > of changing the source package *name*. Not possible without another large round of testing. Our infrastracture currently expects that the upstream part of

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 11:26:12PM +0100, Frederik Schueler wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 01:52:24PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > That's a big drawback. Please change the *version* of the package instead > > of changing the source package *name*. > DOes everything from the ftp/archive mana

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Andreas Barth
* Frederik Schueler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070106 23:45]: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 01:19:01PM -0800, Jeff Carr wrote: > > This doesn't have anything to do with legality. You can legally > > distribute these drivers. > > in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve Langasek clearly > states in the name of the relea

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 01:19:01PM -0800, Jeff Carr wrote: > This doesn't have anything to do with legality. You can legally > distribute these drivers. in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve Langasek clearly states in the name of the release team which drivers have to be dealt with for the release,

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 01:52:24PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > That's a big drawback. Please change the *version* of the package instead > of changing the source package *name*. DOes everything from the ftp/archive management tools to kernel-package cope wiuth this? if yes, we can go t

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 08:45:55PM +0100, Frederik Schueler wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 05:27:22AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > > Did you check for packages that have a dependency or build dependency on > > linux-2.6? They'd have to be re-uploaded too... > we rename the source package, not the

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Frederik Schueler a écrit : Hello, On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 05:27:22AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: Did you check for packages that have a dependency or build dependency on linux-2.6? They'd have to be re-uploaded too... we rename [...] This looks like you're stating that you still plan

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Ludovic Brenta
Frederik Schueler writes: > we rename the source package, not the binary packages. No need to > change anything anywhere, we just want a new tarball in the archive > :-) Could you explain why a new "upstream version number" is insufficient? i.e. why uploading linux-2.6_2.6.18dfsg-1 as a followup t

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Jeff Carr
On 01/05/07 13:54, Frederik Schueler wrote: > Hello, > > Today Bastian Blank and I finished the preparations to release the next > linux-2.6 package with an orig.tar.gz complying with the GR2006-007. > > The following drivers will be completely removed from the next upload, > because they contai

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 05:27:22AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > Did you check for packages that have a dependency or build dependency on > linux-2.6? They'd have to be re-uploaded too... we rename the source package, not the binary packages. No need to change anything anywhere, we just want

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 10:43:27AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > So keyspan USB devices will be useless with Debian kernels in the very > near future, since there is no alternative to the kernel driver? The keyspan drivers where already disabled since years. To be precise, since when the firm

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
In linux.debian.devel.release Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >So keyspan USB devices will be useless with Debian kernels in the very >near future, since there is no alternative to the kernel driver? Looks so. But we will have the most free kernel of all Linux distributions, aren't you happy

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, Jan 6, 2007 at 12:42:56 +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > What I meant is that a name change for the source package to > "linux-2.6.18" means that any packages that now have a (build) dep on > "linux-2.6" will need to change that dependency (and again when, after the > release the kernel team sw

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 06 January 2007 12:24, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Saturday 06 January 2007 05:27, Frans Pop wrote: > > Did you check for packages that have a dependency or build dependency > > on linux-2.6? They'd have to be re-uploaded too... > > for fai-kernels I'm aware and watching/waiting... That

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Saturday 06 January 2007 05:27, Frans Pop wrote: > Did you check for packages that have a dependency or build dependency on > linux-2.6? They'd have to be re-uploaded too... for fai-kernels I'm aware and watching/waiting... regards, Holger pgpyCSL8J2SEf.pgp Description: PGP sig

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Otavio Salvador
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 10:54:42PM +0100, Frederik Schueler wrote: >> The following drivers will be completely removed from the next upload, >> because they contain legally not distributable components: >> >> keyspan > > So keyspan USB devices will be use

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-06 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 10:54:42PM +0100, Frederik Schueler wrote: > The following drivers will be completely removed from the next upload, > because they contain legally not distributable components: > > keyspan So keyspan USB devices will be useless with Debian kernels in the very near future,

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-05 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 05 January 2007 22:54, Frederik Schueler wrote: > As we need to upload a new orig.tar.gz file, we need to rename the > source package. Among the various possibilities, I think calling it > > linux-2.6.18 > > like we did with linux-2.6.16 seems the best choice, and there will not > be any

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-05 Thread Florian Weimer
* Frederik Schueler: > As we need to upload a new orig.tar.gz file, we need to rename the > source package. Huh? Non sequitur. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-05 Thread Joey Hess
Frederik Schueler wrote: > Does this create any trouble, beside the package having to go through > the NEW queue? If it's only a renaming of the source package, and not a change to the form of the binary package names, then I don't see any problem from a d-i or debian-cd POV. -- see shy jo si

Solving the linux-2.6 firmware issue

2007-01-05 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, Today Bastian Blank and I finished the preparations to release the next linux-2.6 package with an orig.tar.gz complying with the GR2006-007. The following drivers will be completely removed from the next upload, because they contain legally not distributable components: dabus cops dgrs 3