Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-27 Thread Casper Gielen
On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 07:18:31PM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: > Ben Burton wrote: > > > > > ... so you get a bigger machine for the job. > > > > I suspect the point of Casper's post was that this is not always possible. > > I really have a hard time believing that. > Unfortunatly this is e

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-27 Thread Emil Styrke
> Ben Burton wrote: > > > > > ... so you get a bigger machine for the job. > > > > I suspect the point of Casper's post was that this is not always possible. > > I really have a hard time believing that. > Maybe because you live in one of the richest countries in the world... /Emil

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-26 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Ben Burton wrote: > > > ... so you get a bigger machine for the job. > > I suspect the point of Casper's post was that this is not always possible. I really have a hard time believing that. Viktor -- Viktor Rosenfeld WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-26 Thread Ben Burton
> ... so you get a bigger machine for the job. I suspect the point of Casper's post was that this is not always possible. Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] All great truths begin as blasphemies.

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-26 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Casper Gielen wrote: > > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 11:44:14AM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: > > > > Don't tell me, that you absolutely have to install Debian on a 386. No > > one has to do that, you can always use a bigger machine for the initial > > setup. Hell, back in the "old days" people wer

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-26 Thread Casper Gielen
On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 11:57:04AM +0200, Jens Benecke wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 03:07:46PM +0200, Casper Gielen wrote: > > > To implement this not a single line of code needs to be written. Apt is > > designed to do stuff like this. A utillity to add/remove lines to > > /etc/apt/sources.l

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 25 May 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > >> Is it generally possible (I know this is possible with sawfish) for the >> user to install a theme without root privileges? If so, then one big theme >> package is useful to allow a user to browse themes, select the one(s) they >> like, and copy it/them

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread G. L. `Griz' Inabnit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Friday 25 May 2001 00:55, Ben Burton wrote something to this effect: > > Is it generally possible (I know this is possible with sawfish) for the > > user to install a theme without root privileges? If so, then one big > > theme package is useful to allow a us

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Bruce Sass
On Fri, 25 May 2001, Rob Walker wrote: > It would be nice if there were a suid root, but user-runnable, theme > installer which would install over the Network or from a local tarball > of themes. That way a user could install the themes which he wanted, > they would go in system space, and the oth

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Bruce Sass
On Fri, 25 May 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > Although best would be a KDE-theme installer. Are the themes > > available individually anywhere, in a format consistent enough for > > automating the debianization and installation? > > By this do you mean an empty debian package whose configuration proc

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Rob Walker
> On Fri, 25 May 2001 03:44:46 -0400, Matt Zimmerman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > Ben> I am hesitant to do (1) because of the user's disk space usage. >> > Ben> I am hesitant to do (2) because I'm not sure that debian wants a >> > Ben> million kde-theme-* packages on its servers. Mat

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Rob Walker
> On Fri, 25 May 2001 15:07:46 +0200, Casper Gielen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Casper> The only disadvantage I can think of is that when a new Casper> section is added apt/dselect won't know about it until it's Casper> added to sources.list . I've made up two solutions to this but What

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Casper Gielen
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 03:57:02PM +0200, andrea gelmini wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 03:07:46PM +0200, Casper Gielen wrote: > > No, but those packages need to be parsed and checked for dependencies by > > pkg etc... This takes lots of cycles and lots of RAM on _all_ machines, > > regardless of

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Colin Mattoon
On Fri, 25 May 2001 15:26:38 +0200 Casper Gielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 11:44:14AM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: > > > > Don't tell me, that you absolutely have to install Debian on a 386. No > > one has to do that, you can always use a bigger machine for the initi

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread andrea gelmini
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 03:07:46PM +0200, Casper Gielen wrote: > No, but those packages need to be parsed and checked for dependencies by > pkg etc... This takes lots of cycles and lots of RAM on _all_ machines, > regardless of wether those packages are actually installed. Using i see, but the con

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Casper Gielen
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 11:44:14AM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: > > Don't tell me, that you absolutely have to install Debian on a 386. No > one has to do that, you can always use a bigger machine for the initial > setup. Hell, back in the "old days" people were suggesting to compile > the ker

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Casper Gielen
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 11:39:23AM +0200, andrea gelmini wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:32:41AM +0200, Michael Neuffer wrote: > > > There are more then enough machines around that already have > > problems with the package management. Machines that must run > > with 16 or maybe 8 MB of memo

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Junichi Uekawa
andrea gelmini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit Hi, > > There are more then enough machines around that already have > > problems with the package management. Machines that must run > > with 16 or maybe 8 MB of memory (or even less) with an 386sx/16 > > CPU or similar. > do you really i

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
(Disclaimer: I'n not a Debian devoloper nor did I read the ancient flame wars.) Michael Neuffer wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/$ apt-cache search . | wc -l > >7230 > > > > what's another 40 packages? > > Argh ! > > > Exactly this brain damaged behaviour is why we have > so many (useless mi

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread andrea gelmini
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:32:41AM +0200, Michael Neuffer wrote: > Exactly this brain damaged behaviour is why we have > so many (useless mini)packages ! i don't think this is stupid. if I want one thing, I want that one, and only that. using packages it's good, because I can manage with the soft

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Hendrik Sattler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 25. May 2001 10:32, Michael Neuffer wrote: > What I oppose is stupid splits of packages and things like the > 50th ICQ client. Hmm, then why are so many "small" editors there? The first thing after a standard debian install is to remove al

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Michael Neuffer
Quoting Rob Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > On Thu, 24 May 2001 20:23:35 -0500, Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > said: > > Ben> Options are (1) release one huge-arse binary package; (2) release > Ben> 39 packages, one for each theme; (3) release a moderate number of > Ben> packages ea

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Ben Burton
> Is it generally possible (I know this is possible with sawfish) for the > user to install a theme without root privileges? If so, then one big theme > package is useful to allow a user to browse themes, select the one(s) they > like, and copy it/them into an appropriate spot in their home direc

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Ben Burton
> Although best would be a KDE-theme installer. Are the themes > available individually anywhere, in a format consistent enough for > automating the debianization and installation? By this do you mean an empty debian package whose configuration procedure is to download themes and install them o

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 01:19:41AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > On Thu, 24 May 2001, Rob Walker wrote: > > > > On Thu, 24 May 2001 20:23:35 -0500, Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > said: > > > > Ben> Options are (1) release one huge-arse binary package; (2) release > > Ben> 39 packages,

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Bruce Sass
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Rob Walker wrote: > > On Thu, 24 May 2001 20:23:35 -0500, Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > said: > > Ben> Options are (1) release one huge-arse binary package; (2) release > Ben> 39 packages, one for each theme; (3) release a moderate number of > Ben> packages each c

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-25 Thread Rob Walker
> On Thu, 24 May 2001 20:23:35 -0500, Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: Ben> Options are (1) release one huge-arse binary package; (2) release Ben> 39 packages, one for each theme; (3) release a moderate number of Ben> packages each containing a few themes. Ben> I am hesitant to do

Re: Packaging WM themes - question

2001-05-24 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
On 24 May 2001 20:23:35 -0500, Ben Burton wrote: > > Hi. I'm about to submit an ITP for a set of KDE window decoration and widget > themes and I'm trying to decide upon the best way to package them. They're > all from the same author (part of a single large release with the same > version num