On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:32:41AM +0200, Michael Neuffer wrote: > Exactly this brain damaged behaviour is why we have > so many (useless mini)packages ! i don't think this is stupid. if I want one thing, I want that one, and only that. using packages it's good, because I can manage with the software on my computer.
> There are more then enough machines around that already have > problems with the package management. Machines that must run > with 16 or maybe 8 MB of memory (or even less) with an 386sx/16 > CPU or similar. do you really install useless and heavy, for ram and cpu, kde themes on such machines? > Not everbody can like you afford the latest and greatest > machines with GHz CPUs, hundereds of MBs of memory and huge > harddisks. exactly, huge hd... if i want a themes of 100kb, i don't want to download and install megabytes... > We have now more then 500 Debian developers and if everbody > would follow your exceedingly stupid example, we would very > quickly have on the border to 30.000 packages ! > > Who on earth would want to dig through such masses of packages ? ususally people thinks it's good to have a lot of packages in their distributions. do you thins that a big choise is a bad thing? > It would make Debian instantly unusable. do you propose the big-freeze? no more new packages in debian? > hell and they rather switch to SuSE or RedHat where you don't > have to choose. a) there are task-packages. b) these are marketing things, and i don't really care. i use debian for technical reasons. > Go, ask some of the other oldtimers on debian-devel that still > remember the old flamewars with Bruce where this was a topic > as well, what they think. and after that? > Go and learn from those people before you speak such utter > nonsense again. uh... this sound like the good way to work in open projects... wasting time and bandwith with good words... congratulations... > People don't get me wrong. I am _NOT_ opposed to new packages > per se. They just should bring something new into Debian. People don't get me wrong. I am _NOT_ opposed to put themes packages in debian, but i don't like them. anyway, i will never say "don't do it" to maintainers involved in it. > What I oppose is stupid splits of packages and things like the > 50th ICQ client. of course. we hope you decide for us the right & good programs to put in debian. i don't want users can decide which is the best icq clients for them... seems microsoft approach... big packages full of everything, dictation on packages available for users... ciao, andrea
