On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:57:12 -0400
Luke Seubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmm, that might be doable. It does add more complexity for the folks
> working on the backend of all this stuff. And it adds another
> slightly complicated question during install time possibily -
> "Attention User
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> [ On Friday 25 October 2002 07:53 am, David Megginson wrote: ]
> Why *wouldn't* a typical user want both Gnome and KDE apps on the main
> menu? After all, if I've installed a spreadsheet, word processor,
> browser, game, etc., I probably wan
Luke Seubert writes:
> Hmm, that might be doable. It does add more complexity for the folks
> working on the backend of all this stuff. And it adds another slightly
> complicated question during install time possibily - "Attention User - Do
> you want both Gnome and KDE apps showing up in yo
> So we are supposed to throw the debian menu system aside, and use the
> freedesktop stuff as replacement ? And all other WMs have to adapt ?
Given that Debian's shift to the .desktop format has already been proposed
(and work proceeds on its implementation), and that the menu system will
need
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 03:20:49PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
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>
> > I'm confused -- why do you say `No' when the rest of what you write seems
> > to agree with what was said?
> >
> > That is, isn't vFolder/.desktop a _mechanism_, with which the debian menu
> > structure could be conveniently dis
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 09:57:12PM -0400, Luke Seubert wrote:
> On 10/24/2002 6:29 PM, Nick Leverton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I'm with the "Want to group like tasks with like" camp, myself. But why
> > not make it an Option[tm] ? Have a configurable bit in the menu program
> > called "F
> I'm confused -- why do you say `No' when the rest of what you write seems
> to agree with what was said?
>
> That is, isn't vFolder/.desktop a _mechanism_, with which the debian menu
> structure could be conveniently displayed by Gnome/KDE (replacing the
> normal Gnome/KDE menu structure)?
No
Hello Luke,
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:18:47 -0400
Luke Seubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This would tend to argue in favor of segregated menus then,
> with GTK apps showing up when one is using the Gnome desktop, and QT apps
> showing up when one is in the KDE desktop.
But GTK is not Gnome. What
Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > In other words, we should be using a unified Debian menu structure
> > > with appropriate tweaks for certain environments (and in
> > > particular, _not_ using the default Gnome/KDE menu structures).
> >
> > Yup.
>
> No... The point behind the vFolde
> > In other words, we should be using a unified Debian menu structure with
> > appropriate tweaks for certain environments (and in particular, _not_ using
> > the default Gnome/KDE menu structures).
>
> Yup.
No... The point behind the vFolder spec is that both GNOME and KDE can show
all of t
On 10/24/2002 10:42 PM, Miles Bader at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Luke Seubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I am not quite sure what you mean. I don't think the whole menu
>> structure is being based upon any one piddling detail - but I am not sure
>> which piddling detail you mean. Please cla
On 10/24/2002 10:26 PM, Tim Wheeler at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [ On Thursday 24 October 2002 09:18 pm, Luke Seubert wrote: ]
>> Good point. This would tend to argue in favor of segregated menus then,
>> with GTK apps showing up when one is using the Gnome desktop, and QT apps
>> showi
Luke Seubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Perhaps DD should _think_ about this issue -- for instance, if it has
> > to choose only one terminal program to display in a menu, it should
> > make an `environmentally aware' choice (KDE for KDE, Gnome for Gnome,
> > Joe's Wackyterm for everybody else
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> [ On Thursday 24 October 2002 09:18 pm, Luke Seubert wrote: ]
> On 10/24/2002 7:26 PM, Miles Bader at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > [I think that in many case it will be a non-issue because a system will
> > only have the main KDE apps install
On 10/24/2002 7:26 PM, Miles Bader at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 05:29:56PM -0400, Luke Seubert wrote:
>> However, that does not mean that Debian Desktop should not care. KDE apps
>> designed to run optimally under the KDE Desktop environment. Apps run
>> better and faste
On 10/24/2002 6:29 PM, Nick Leverton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm with the "Want to group like tasks with like" camp, myself. But why
> not make it an Option[tm] ? Have a configurable bit in the menu program
> called "Flatten Debian" or something, which will fold any "/Debian"
> menu into t
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