Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-05-14 Thread fradev
Hi Martin On 14/05/17 11:10:53 CEST, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Given that, I would consider the percentage of people who use the package > > as a more reliable data. So, because it is evident that the percentage > > of people who use gnome-orca is under the threshold of the 25%, and > > becau

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-05-07 Thread fradev
Hi everyone I tried to gather the opinions expressed previously in this discussion and now I would like to integrate them with data from the Debian and Ubuntu Popularity Contests [1][2] in order to avoid biased proposals. My first proposal was for the task-kde-desktop and I thought it was usefu

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-04-22 Thread fradev
On 22/04/17 13:31:51 CEST, Luigi Toscano wrote: > > - plasma-discover is too bugged to be used as a replacement > > Do you have a specific set of bugs? Think also in the long term, this is > going to happen for Buster, and Discover is definitely developed. This [1] as a starting point, and this s

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-04-22 Thread fradev
Hi everyone On 25/03/17 18:50:08 CEST, fradev wrote: > Here are the dependencies of task-kde-desktop, on the right my suggestions. > > task-kde-desktop > Depends: tasksel > Depends: task-desktop > Depends: kde-standard > Depends: sddm > Recommends: kdeaccessi

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-04-05 Thread fradev
On 05/04/17 11:43:55 CEST, Shawn Sörbom wrote: > > Sorry, there is a typo. The output that I posted was generated by > > "$ sudo apt remove kmail", not "autoremove". > > I agree, but the original topic was about which packages shouldn't be > included by default. Couldn't this be solved by changing

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-04-05 Thread fradev
On 03/04/17 13:07:31 CEST, fradev wrote: > >$ sudo apt autoremove kmail Sorry, there is a typo. The output that I posted was generated by "$ sudo apt remove kmail", not "autoremove".

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-04-04 Thread fradev
On 02/04/17 00:11:40 CEST, Shawn Sörbom wrote: > But for a good "out of the box" experience, many people expect a mail > client. Look at Kubuntu. Personally kmail would be of the first packages I > would install on any KDE system that I would set up for an "average" user. > A default email solution

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-04-04 Thread fradev
On 02/04/17 00:11:40 CEST, Shawn Sörbom wrote: > But for a good "out of the box" experience, many people expect a mail > client. Look at Kubuntu. Personally kmail would be of the first packages I > would install on any KDE system that I would set up for an "average" user. > A default email solution

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-04-04 Thread fradev
On 02/04/17 00:11:40 CEST, Shawn Sörbom wrote: > But for a good "out of the box" experience, many people expect a mail > client. Look at Kubuntu. Personally kmail would be of the first packages I > would install on any KDE system that I would set up for an "average" user. > A default email solution

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-04-01 Thread fradev
On 31/03/17 13:27:14 CEST, Maximiliano Curia wrote: > >>> Depends: kmail--> change to: Suggests > >> > >> It has its glitches... But I use it > > > > I use it too and I propose to suggest it, and not recommend it, exactly > > because it has it glitches and many people pr

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-03-31 Thread fradev
On 30/03/17 10:22:20 CEST, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > I won't use dolphin unless I'm forced to use it and konq-plugins is a > needed package for konqueror. But if we focus on a setup suitable for the general public, I think dolphin is good as file manager and well integrated. Instead konqueror (and t

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-03-30 Thread fradev
If someone is still interested in the topic, here it is the list of dependencies required by the meta-package *kde-standard* (a dependency of *task-kde-desktop*) with my suggestions on the right. kde-standard Depends: akregator--> change to: Suggests Depends: ark Depend

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-03-25 Thread fradev
On 19/03/17 22:26:28 CET, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Hello, Francesco, I was thinking as Users we could discuss the options > here first and then make a proposal of the "debian-plasma-desktop" to > the KDE team. > > Utilities= ark, kcalc, kwrite, spectacle. > > System= bleachbit, kinfo, partition-man

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-03-20 Thread fradev
On 20/03/17 17:02:55 CET, Thom Castermans wrote: > 2017-03-20 16:11 GMT+01:00 Jimmy Johnson : > > Maybe you don't know it, but the average user does not know how to use a > > keyboard, like putting your index fingers on the f and j keys, basic > > typing. > I think that you are grossly underestimat

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-03-17 Thread fradev
To be clear, I'm talking about Stretch, Jessie is out of discussion of course. On 17/03/17 10:48:41 CET, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Konqueror is still quite a central part in Plasma. It is used by default for > web shortcuts and for URLS like "man:/ls" oder "info:/". If I read correctly the depe

Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-03-17 Thread fradev
On 15/03/17 13:34:38 CET, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > As for the rest of your post I agree and what we need is a > "debian-plasma-desktop meta package" where it's tested and working > including kconnect, wireless, bluetooth, vlc, pulse, etc. and keep pim > to the minimal so the kitchen sink is not added

improving the UX with the default KDE installation

2017-03-15 Thread fradev
Hi everyone The default KDE/Plasma 5 installation in Stretch, via task-kde-desktop, in my opinion doesn't provide the best user experience because of the many applications installed by default. While the experience with the Plasma desktop is pretty good, the same cannot be said for some KDE app

Re: Is anyone else experiencing intermittent Plasma freezes as of very recently?

2017-01-09 Thread fradev
On 08/01/17 14:59:49 CET, Shawn Sorbom wrote: > On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:48:31 AM PST newbee...@nativobject.net wrote: > > Le 16/12/2016 à 17:56, Gard Spreemann a écrit : > > > On Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:36:27 CET bruno zanetti wrote: > > >> It's likely https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.