Debian + KDE2 + Japanese localization -> don't get characters...

2002-07-30 Thread Matthew Welland
I'm trying to set up Japanese localization on my Debian system for a couple of Japanese students who are staying with me and I can't get it to work. The last time I did it I just selected kde-i18n-ja and select Japanese for country and language and jisx0208.1983-0 for the font. What I get is eit

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Chris Cheney
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 04:02:09PM -0700, Daniel Schepler wrote: > Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Great! Once you finish the patch let me know and I will see about > > getting it incorporated upstream, unless you already know someone to > > send it to. > > That might take a while,

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Hendrik Sattler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 31. Juli 2002 01:08 schrieb Daniel Schepler: > Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Am Dienstag, 30. Juli 2002 02:24 schrieb Daniel Schepler: > > > Something has been bothering me about the KDE packages... The OpenSSL > > > lic

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Chris Cheney
No it is the problem of OpenSSL license for being obnoxious ;) Chris

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Daniel Schepler
Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Great! Once you finish the patch let me know and I will see about > getting it incorporated upstream, unless you already know someone to > send it to. That might take a while, since I know nothing about how to program for openssl or gnutls, or how the cu

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Hendrik Sattler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 31. Juli 2002 01:00 schrieb Chris Cheney: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:56:49AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 30. Juli 2002 02:24 schrieb Daniel Schepler: > > > Something has been bothering me about the KDE packages... The

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Daniel Schepler
Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Dienstag, 30. Juli 2002 02:24 schrieb Daniel Schepler: > > Something has been bothering me about the KDE packages... The OpenSSL > > license is incompatible with the GPL, but Konqueror et al use the > > Can you actually tell me, where it is incomp

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:56:49AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am Dienstag, 30. Juli 2002 02:24 schrieb Daniel Schepler: > > Something has been bothering me about the KDE packages... The OpenSSL > > license is incompatible with the GPL, but

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Hendrik Sattler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Dienstag, 30. Juli 2002 02:24 schrieb Daniel Schepler: > Something has been bothering me about the KDE packages... The OpenSSL > license is incompatible with the GPL, but Konqueror et al use the Can you actually tell me, where it is incompatible?

Re: kdm sourcing .bash_profile?

2002-07-30 Thread Ignacio Cárdenas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! > I know I've seen this discussed before but I couldn't find it in the > archives. I have these lines in my .bash_profile: > > if [ -d ~/bin ] ; then > PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}" > fi > > When I login on the console it behaves as expe

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Chris Cheney
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 03:36:33PM -0700, Daniel Schepler wrote: > Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Is gnutls lgpl yet? Otherwise, I am pretty certain KDE upstream will > > refuse a gnutls patch. If it is lgpl it shouldn't be too hard to > > convince them to take the patch. > > > >

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Daniel Schepler
Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is gnutls lgpl yet? Otherwise, I am pretty certain KDE upstream will > refuse a gnutls patch. If it is lgpl it shouldn't be too hard to > convince them to take the patch. > > Chris According to the debian copyright file, the main gnutls library is LGPL,

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:30:21AM +0200, Maximilian Reiss wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 31. Juli 2002 00:23 schrieb Chris Cheney: > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 02:38:42PM +0200, Maximilian Reiss wrote: > > > No gpl violation. KDE does _not_ link against libssl. > > > > > > Max > > > > Oh yes it does... H

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Daniel Schepler
Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 02:38:42PM +0200, Maximilian Reiss wrote: > > No gpl violation. KDE does _not_ link against libssl. > > > > Max > > Oh yes it does... However, the parts of KDE that do link to libssl in > 3.x are now lgpl'd so the issue shou

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Maximilian Reiss
Am Mittwoch, 31. Juli 2002 00:23 schrieb Chris Cheney: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 02:38:42PM +0200, Maximilian Reiss wrote: > > No gpl violation. KDE does _not_ link against libssl. > > > > Max > > Oh yes it does... However, the parts of KDE that do link to libssl in > 3.x are now lgpl'd so the

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Chris Cheney
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 03:26:56PM -0700, Daniel Schepler wrote: -snip- > reinstated by the authors of the code involved.) So I'd prefer to > approach them with something like "here's a patch which allows KDE to > use gnutls instead of libssl, which resolves license > incompatibilities." I'd susp

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Daniel Schepler
Achim Bohnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi Daniel, > > No https? No spop? No imaps? No sftp? NO. If really necessary, > ask upstream to resolve the conflict. Don't make Debian KDE not useable > before trying to find a real fix upstream. > > Please don't 'solve' the conflict on the should

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Chris Cheney
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 02:38:42PM +0200, Maximilian Reiss wrote: > No gpl violation. KDE does _not_ link against libssl. > > Max Oh yes it does... However, the parts of KDE that do link to libssl in 3.x are now lgpl'd so the issue should not matter (I think)? Chris

Re: LIST-DAEMON COMMAND {{ DIGEST MODE FLAG TRUE TOGGLE }} STOP END

2002-07-30 Thread Chris Cheney
Why are you sending these strange messages to the list? Chris On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 02:32:10PM -0400, Craig Morehouse wrote: > LIST-DAEMON COMMAND {{ DIGEST MODE FLAG TRUE TOGGLE }} STOP END > -- > Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional > to how much we think we

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Daniel Schepler
Maximilian Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Dienstag, 30. Juli 2002 02:24 schrieb Daniel Schepler: > > Something has been bothering me about the KDE packages... The OpenSSL > > license is incompatible with the GPL, but Konqueror et al use the > > library. I just checked and, indeed, I foun

Slow kdm, kicker, kicker startup

2002-07-30 Thread - -
Hello all, apologies if this has already been handled in the archives (though I was unable to find anything related to it in there). I recently upgraded to kde 3.02 using the standard debs and am running into trouble with extremely long startup times for some kde applications. The most obviou

Re: libpng conflict

2002-07-30 Thread John Bazik
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 12:18:19PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > > You must not read -devel then... There has been no shortage of discussion > on that list about the problem and (disturbingly enough) there seems to be > some progress toward a resolution even! Doh! Didn't notice it. Thanks. Jo

Re: libpng conflict

2002-07-30 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 09:33:56AM -0400, John Bazik wrote: > > For the moment, until all this gets straightened out, I guess you could > > Is someone working to straighten it out? I couldn't find any discussion > of it. The only fixes I've heard suggested are for the upstream author to > rename

LIST-DAEMON COMMAND {{ DIGEST MODE FLAG TRUE TOGGLE }} STOP END

2002-07-30 Thread Craig Morehouse
LIST-DAEMON COMMAND {{ DIGEST MODE FLAG TRUE TOGGLE }} STOP END -- Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. Set the controls for the heart of the sun.

koncd or other cd burning software for KDE 3.0.x

2002-07-30 Thread Gerrit Jan Baarda
Hi, I recently installed unofficial KDE 3.0.2. I found out later that there is no CD burning software anymore. I used to use kreatecd but that has, as I understand it, been replaced by koncd for KDE 3.0.x. Koncd is part of the official kde-multimedia sources but there is no koncd .deb. Is t

Re: libpng conflict

2002-07-30 Thread John Bazik
On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 01:03:42PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: > For the moment, until all this gets straightened out, I guess you could Is someone working to straighten it out? I couldn't find any discussion of it. The only fixes I've heard suggested are for the upstream author to rename libpng

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 02:38:42PM +0200, Maximilian Reiss wrote: > No gpl violation. KDE does _not_ link against libssl. kdebase-crypto depends on libssl because libkcm_crypto is linked against libssl. -- "You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydream - or a fever." -- To UNSUBSC

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Maximilian Reiss
Am Dienstag, 30. Juli 2002 02:24 schrieb Daniel Schepler: > Something has been bothering me about the KDE packages... The OpenSSL > license is incompatible with the GPL, but Konqueror et al use the > library. I just checked and, indeed, I found that libssl.so.0.9.6 and > libqt-mt.so.3.0.4 are lin

Re: OpenSSL license incompatibility

2002-07-30 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Tuesday 30 July 2002 02:24, Daniel Schepler wrote: > Something has been bothering me about the KDE packages... The OpenSSL > license is incompatible with the GPL, but Konqueror et al use the > library. I just checked and, indeed, I found that libssl.so.0.9.6 and > libqt-mt.so.3.0.4 are linked