Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-09 Thread Max Kellermann
Hi, let me introduce myself before I go into detail - I am Max Kellermann, I live in Germany near Cologne and I'm 22 years old, I work as software developer (mostly Perl, and some Java). I have learned my first programming language at the age of 9 (Basic, Assembler, Pascal, C++, C, Java,

Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-09 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm a bit curious. In what way is the java extension mechanism useless? The extension mechanism is only there to solve one problem: setting classpath. It does not care about all the other stuff I mentioned. What should I write in my Applet's Mani

Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-09 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:46:53AM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote: > I think so yes. I have not tested it though. Maybe it solves that > issue, and maybe not. Anyway this is a java2 thing so we have to make > a wrapper (or similar me

Re: Vive la Revolution! (Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java)

2001-11-09 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about using the jar manifest to store the jar metadata, as Sun > intended? Make the jars their own database. A platform-independent > database :) Jeff, your idea sounds nice, and I would really like to see Debian define the new Java manifest fi

Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-09 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just noticed I mixed library references in Manifest files and Java > > extensions, but they are similar, and as far as I know them, they're not > > good. If anyone feels they're sufficient for our problems, please explain > > :-) > > I'm not v

Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-10 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have now read this. Not very much of a documentation so I have some > questions... :) > > The Class-Path:-thing. Is it per Name: (class) or per jar-file? What exactly do you mean with "Name: (class)" ? > > This whole thing seems to me very br

Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-10 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No Class-Path at all whenever possible.. remember the example that Xalan2 > > provides a Xalan1-compatibility layer - it Xalan2 must be included, we can > > satisfy all Xalan1-dependencies with that library (with lower precedence). > > Not poss

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Per Bothner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The most glaring missing feature in gcj is AWT. If you're > running server-style or other non-GUI application, I suggest > you try it. See htpp://gcc.gnu.org/java/ Has anybody tried running Tomcat with gcj? Tomcat should be THE Java server.. if

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> "Max" == Max Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Max> Does gcj support loading new .JAR files dynamically at run-time > Max> like with its .WAR files at all (i.e. creating custom Cl

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Alexandre Petit-Bianco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RHUG's jython relies on that feature to work: jython spits bytecode > out of Python files and then interprets them. It is our intent to > insert an optional compilation stage. libgcj could then load a shared > object instead of a bytecode f

Java Classpath builder

2001-11-14 Thread Max Kellermann
Hi, I have made a Debian package containing an experimental java classpath builder (I have posted a large email about that topic last week). It does not yet resolve complex dependencies, it's just a point to start at, to give you an impression of what I'm planning for debian-java. If you want

Re: Java Classpath builder

2001-11-24 Thread Max Kellermann
ge to run it without my Debian package. Regards, Max Kellermann

Re: [summary] Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-27 Thread Max Kellermann
On 2001/11/26 18:55 > I agree that if there is a package with so much documentation that > installing it all might take up too much space. In that case, > separate -doc and -javadoc packages would be ok. But Debian tends > to discourage "frivilous" package splitting, so this should only be > done

Re: Tomcat 3.3 / 4.0 ? When?

2001-12-01 Thread Max Kellermann
On 2001/11/30 22:28 > > "Adam" == Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas wrote: > Stefan> Fine, and the Debian package uses the same user as Apache > Stefan> (default: www-data), also for security reasons :) > > Adam> I consider that a bug, and should probab

Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-09 Thread Max Kellermann
Hi, let me introduce myself before I go into detail - I am Max Kellermann, I live in Germany near Cologne and I'm 22 years old, I work as software developer (mostly Perl, and some Java). I have learned my first programming language at the age of 9 (Basic, Assembler, Pascal, C++, C, Java,

Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-09 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm a bit curious. In what way is the java extension mechanism useless? The extension mechanism is only there to solve one problem: setting classpath. It does not care about all the other stuff I mentioned. What should I write in my Applet's Man

Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-09 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:46:53AM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote: > I think so yes. I have not tested it though. Maybe it solves that > issue, and maybe not. Anyway this is a java2 thing so we have to make > a wrapper (or simi

Re: Vive la Revolution! (Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java)

2001-11-09 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about using the jar manifest to store the jar metadata, as Sun > intended? Make the jars their own database. A platform-independent > database :) Jeff, your idea sounds nice, and I would really like to see Debian define the new Java manifest f

Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-09 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just noticed I mixed library references in Manifest files and Java > > extensions, but they are similar, and as far as I know them, they're not > > good. If anyone feels they're sufficient for our problems, please explain :-) > > I'm not very

Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-10 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have now read this. Not very much of a documentation so I have some > questions... :) > > The Class-Path:-thing. Is it per Name: (class) or per jar-file? What exactly do you mean with "Name: (class)" ? > > This whole thing seems to me very b

Re: Classpath and versioned libraries for Debian-Java

2001-11-10 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No Class-Path at all whenever possible.. remember the example that Xalan2 provides >a Xalan1-compatibility layer - it Xalan2 must be included, we can satisfy all >Xalan1-dependencies with that library (with lower precedence). Not possible with

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Per Bothner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The most glaring missing feature in gcj is AWT. If you're > running server-style or other non-GUI application, I suggest > you try it. See htpp://gcc.gnu.org/java/ Has anybody tried running Tomcat with gcj? Tomcat should be THE Java server.. if

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> "Max" == Max Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Max> Does gcj support loading new .JAR files dynamically at run-time > Max> like with its .WAR files at all (i.e. creating custom Cl

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Alexandre Petit-Bianco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RHUG's jython relies on that feature to work: jython spits bytecode > out of Python files and then interprets them. It is our intent to > insert an optional compilation stage. libgcj could then load a shared > object instead of a bytecode

Java Classpath builder

2001-11-14 Thread Max Kellermann
Hi, I have made a Debian package containing an experimental java classpath builder (I have posted a large email about that topic last week). It does not yet resolve complex dependencies, it's just a point to start at, to give you an impression of what I'm planning for debian-java. If you want

Re: Java Classpath builder

2001-11-24 Thread Max Kellermann
e to run it without my Debian package. Regards, Max Kellermann -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [summary] Re: policy proposition for javadoc installation

2001-11-27 Thread Max Kellermann
On 2001/11/26 18:55 > I agree that if there is a package with so much documentation that > installing it all might take up too much space. In that case, > separate -doc and -javadoc packages would be ok. But Debian tends > to discourage "frivilous" package splitting, so this should only be > don

Re: Tomcat 3.3 / 4.0 ? When?

2001-12-01 Thread Max Kellermann
On 2001/11/30 22:28 > > "Adam" == Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas wrote: > Stefan> Fine, and the Debian package uses the same user as Apache > Stefan> (default: www-data), also for security reasons :) > > Adam> I consider that a bug, and should proba

Bug#348649: ftbfs: "I can't find file `policy.aux'."

2006-01-18 Thread Max Kellermann
Package: java-common Version: 0.23 Tags: FTBFS Severity: minor This is e-TeX, Version 3.14159-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) entering extended mode (/opt/debian/build/java-common-0.23/policy.tex JadeTeX 2003/04/27: 3.13 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/t1ptm.fd) Elements will be labelled ! LaTeX Error: Miss

Bug#348649: ftbfs: "I can't find file `policy.aux'."

2006-02-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 2006/02/10 16:46, Wolfgang Baer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just tried it on an uptodate sid and with an uptodate pbuilder and > both built java-common without a problem. It does not fail anymore; I suspect the build dependencies were somehow not sufficient, and I upgraded a lot of other pac