Re: kaffe orphaned? (extended reply)

1999-09-09 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
I have been receiving quite a bit of irritation from the Debian-Java lists lately so I thought I would try and address the issues. Here is the situation: - The production version of Kaffe is 1.0b4. I packaged it the day that it was released. I have made a subsequent packaging of 1.0b4 to eli

Suggestion: Post-installation README file (Was: The problem of core classes for Java compilers)

1999-09-09 Thread Daniel Barclay
(debian-devel stuff halfway down**) > From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Jikes has a problem with core classes. It can use those of the JDK or those > of > kaffe (which allows it to stay free) but is is necessary to tell it where to > find them. > > ... > Which means you canno

ITP: Cocoon (and dependencies: OpenXML, XSL:P)

1999-09-09 Thread Julio
If there is no work currently being done to package Cocoon (a XML/XSL publishing framework servlet, http://java.apache.org/cocoon) and its direct dependencies (OpenXML, http://www.openxml.org and XSL:P, http://www.clc-marketing.com/xslp/), I'd like to provide these packages. As I'm not current

Re: The problem of core classes for Java compilers (Was: Bug#44462: jikes: jikes does not find core classes

1999-09-09 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
Make a file "/usr/share/java/core-compiler-classes.jar" that is managed via the alternatives mechanism. Some other name could be used, but this would suffice. There could be a virtual package of the same name which is provided by the debs which supply said .jar. On another note, I think that this

Re: The problem of core classes for Java compilers (Was: Bug#44462: jikes: jikes does not find core classes

1999-09-09 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wednesday 8 September 1999, at 15 h 35, the keyboard of "Mike Goldman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just FWIW, I do configure Jikes for Debian to automatically find clases in > the Java Repository. So if you manually unpack core classes into > /usr/share/java/repository, Jikes will presently

Re: kaffe orphaned? (extended reply)

1999-09-09 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wednesday 8 September 1999, at 21 h 8, the keyboard of "Ean R . Schuessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Despite this, Mike > Goldman has decided to make out that I have "orphaned" Kaffe. The assumption was certainly false, but anyone can have doubts when reading the bug list of kaffe. O

Re: kaffe orphaned? (extended reply)

1999-09-09 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:28:30AM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > My name is Stéphane. You can drop the accent on the first e if it > is more convenient. Apologies. > Thanks for the "half conceived". The proposed Java policy has been > sent on this list several months ago and discussed and

Re: Suggestion: Post-installation README file (Was: The problem of core classes for Java compilers)

1999-09-09 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thursday 9 September 1999, at 0 h 16, the keyboard of Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most of Unix is based on configuring or controlling things with > environment variables. Things (e.g., Sun's JVM) are designed with > that in mind. When there aren't appropriate defaults befor

Re: kaffe orphaned? (thought from outside..)

1999-09-09 Thread Seth R Arnold
Ean, Staphane... I think I understand how each of you two feel; however, I would like to remind you guys that this whole thing is supposed to be fun. :) This is sort of degenerating into a bit of a flame war; perhaps before responding to future messages (including this one? :) take a few minutes t

Re: kaffe orphaned? (thought from outside..)

1999-09-09 Thread John Foster
I agree with Seth on this matter, but I wish to point out that according to the GPL that you both have the right to take a body of code [with the original authors express permission] and incorporate it into a compleate new body of work, with a new name. In short, if you can't agree to work together

Debian Java outlook/ Re: kaffe orphaned?

1999-09-09 Thread Bernd Kreimeier
Mark W. Eichin writes: > [goes back to lurking until free-java is good enough to consider as an > *only* java environment :-)] Yeah. It's not only that we'd need an LGPL'ed VM and core classes, and a GPL'ed compiler. I tried to make this point last year that we would need some kind of experiment

Re: Debian Java outlook/ Re: kaffe orphaned?

1999-09-09 Thread Cris J. Holdorph
Bernd Kreimeier Writes: > When we can implement find etc. in pure Java, and create > ELF as well as a bytecode from the same Java source using > free tools, when we can execute nfind and jfind as quickly > and efficiently as /usr/bin/find, when Find.java uses > a FindOperator class that can be use

Re: Debian Java outlook/ Re: kaffe orphaned?

1999-09-09 Thread Cris J. Holdorph
Daniel James Patterson Writes: > I believe that perl has the ability to generate C code from perl scripts, > which you can then compile yourself. As far as i can remember, it was > a new feature for perl 5.004 when it arrived. I think it's mentioned > somewhere in the perl man pages, but I'm not