Re: java-gcj-compat and java2-runtime

2006-02-07 Thread Michael Koch
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 02:14:08PM +0530, ? ??? (Praveen A) wrote: > hi, > > Are we ready to say java-gcj-compat provides java2-runtime ? Or are we > waiting till it says 100 % compatible. If we say it provides java2-runtime > packages like azureus can be i

Re: java2-runtime in main

2006-02-04 Thread Michael Koch
Azureus, is debian-java ready to provide a package in main that > > > provides java2-runtime? > > > > We should get rid of this numbered javaX-runtime. This doesnt really > > help these days anyway. > > Should applications simply depend on java-runtime then, i

Re: java2-runtime in main

2006-02-04 Thread Shaun Jackman
On 2/4/06, Michael Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 12:36:55PM -0700, Shaun Jackman wrote: > > Now that gij 4.1 can run many java2 mainstream applications, such as > > Azureus, is debian-java ready to provide a package in main that > > provides j

Re: java2-runtime in main

2006-02-04 Thread Michael Koch
On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 12:36:55PM -0700, Shaun Jackman wrote: > Now that gij 4.1 can run many java2 mainstream applications, such as > Azureus, is debian-java ready to provide a package in main that > provides java2-runtime? We should get rid of this numbered javaX-runtime. This does

java2-runtime in main

2006-02-04 Thread Shaun Jackman
Now that gij 4.1 can run many java2 mainstream applications, such as Azureus, is debian-java ready to provide a package in main that provides java2-runtime? Please cc me in your reply. Cheers, Shaun

java-gcj-compat and java2-runtime

2006-01-31 Thread Praveen A
hi, Are we ready to say java-gcj-compat provides java2-runtime ? Or are we waiting till it says 100 % compatible. If we say it provides java2-runtime packages like azureus can be installed, which already runs fine with gij. Just my 2.15 cents :-)Praveen A-- "GNU is the system

Policy ideas (Was: Re: java2-runtime)

2005-08-23 Thread Dalibor Topic
there any reason why java1-runtime and java2-runtime are the official > runtimes, whereas java-compiler and java2-compiler are the official > compilers? This inconsistency does not seem helpful in establishing > consistency within the runtimes. Yeah, I think the policy should be consolidate

Re: java2-runtime

2005-08-22 Thread Charles Fry
> - java1-runtime stands for Java1 (i.e. up to Java 1.2). > - java2-runtime stands for Java2 (i.e. Java 1.3 and higher). > > - free VMs generally only provide java1-runtime (java-runtime is IMHO > wrong or a typo). Does this mean that bugs should be filed with packages which pr

Re: java2-runtime

2005-08-22 Thread Al Eridani
On 8/21/05, Eric Lavarde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Charles, > > I didn't see a reply to your email so I'll have a try: > > - java1-runtime stands for Java1 (i.e. up to Java 1.2). > - java2-runtime stands for Java2 (i.e. Java 1.3 and higher). I don'

Re: java2-runtime

2005-08-22 Thread Dalibor Topic
Petter Reinholdtsen hungry.com> writes: > > > [Eric Lavarde] > > Conclusion: > > - if your package works with free VMs, you should write something > > like: kaffe | sablevm | java1-runtime. > > Is it not enough and recommended to list only one non-virtual package, > aka 'kaffe | java1-runtime'

Re: java2-runtime

2005-08-22 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Eric Lavarde] > Conclusion: > - if your package works with free VMs, you should write something > like: kaffe | sablevm | java1-runtime. Is it not enough and recommended to list only one non-virtual package, aka 'kaffe | java1-runtime' or 'sablevm | java1-runtime'? I assume would kaffe and sabl

Re: java2-runtime

2005-08-21 Thread Eric Lavarde
Hi Charles, I didn't see a reply to your email so I'll have a try: - java1-runtime stands for Java1 (i.e. up to Java 1.2). - java2-runtime stands for Java2 (i.e. Java 1.3 and higher). - free VMs generally only provide java1-runtime (java-runtime is IMHO wrong or a typo). - the Sun

java2-runtime

2005-08-18 Thread Charles Fry
Hi, I am trying to get the proper Depends line for the Bouncy Castle library that I am packaging. Per the policy I found on the web, I depended on java2-runtime, but then got a warning that virtual-package-depends-without-real-package-depends. Looking at other similar packages, I found that they

Re: Bug#228878: java-virtual-machine-dummy and java2-runtime dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread Stefan Gybas
t on installing java2-runtime and don't acknowledge java-virtual-machine. Funny, these two are the only ones that follow the Debian Java Policy. All others either just depend on java-common or on java-virtual-machine, both is wrong accoding to the Java Policy. I find it very interesting that t

Re: java-virtual-machine-dummy and java2-runtime dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread josh buhl
Stefan Gybas wrote: You can use equivs for that. See README.Debian in java-common for details. very nice. i see that this does take care of the problem, but how are you going to get the user to know/do this, since when installing, all he sees is a error message reporting missing dependencies. th

Re: java-virtual-machine-dummy and java2-runtime dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread josh buhl
Stefan Gybas wrote: You can use equivs for that. See README.Debian in java-common for details. very nice. i see that this does take care of the problem, but how are you going to get the user to know/do this, since when installing, all he sees is a error message reporting missing dependencies. th

Re: java-virtual-machine-dummy and java2-runtime dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi Josh, josh buhl wrote: well, this is always going to be a problem. i don't see how you can remove the dummy packages without causing headaches for everybody who wants to use Sun's j2sdk or j2re (or any other non debian jvm or whatever). you need a dummy package to tell other debian packages

java-virtual-machine-dummy and java2-runtime dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread josh buhl
ackages that provide java2-runtime, since I've already got the real deal. However, any package that depends on java2-runtime or j2re1.4 for example refuses to install, although they would run fine if they would install themselves. It seems that installing the java-virtual-machine-dummy package s

Re: java2-runtime, was Re: Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I fully agree with you! The only useful things in the > current Java Policy are /usr/share/java for JARs, /usr/lib/jni > and the naming of library packages. Everything else is based > on wrong assumtions. :-( I also agree. -- .''`. :

Re: java2-runtime, was Re: Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Jerry Haltom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I think we MUST do is aim to have a end user application, that > runs on Java, work as expected. To this end, I see java2-runtime being > provided by runtimes that conform to Sun's published standards, and no > others. H

Re: java2-runtime, was Re: Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-21 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi Jerry, Jerry Haltom wrote: What I think we MUST do is aim to have a end user application, that runs on Java, work as expected. To this end, I see java2-runtime being provided by runtimes that conform to Sun's published standards, and no others. However we verify that is up in th

Re: java2-runtime, was Re: Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-20 Thread Jerry Haltom
ails in > > debian-java or my eclipse buglog :( ), as sablevm seems to set a very > > high u-a priority. > > To avoid misunderstandings: I don't think that sablevm should provide > java2-runtime but then again we don't have an official definition of > java2-runt

Re: java2-runtime, was Re: Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-20 Thread Jan Schulz
kages are installed to run >tomcat4 although all depencenies are satisfied. I have to remove >java2-runtime and only depend on the known to work JVMs. I would like to do that as well, but recent BD packages, as I said before, will not run eclipse as well in some cicumstances. So I actually have

java2-runtime, was Re: Bug#227587: [PROPOSAL] Java library dependencies

2004-01-20 Thread Stefan Gybas
sablevm should provide java2-runtime but then again we don't have an official definition of java2-runtime so it's the maintainer's decision. The /usr/bin/java* alternatives don't matter since tomcat4 does not use them. I'm concerned that not all required packages are

Re: java2-runtime

2002-09-28 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
On 27 Sep 2002, Stephen Zander wrote: > > "Thomas" == Thomas J Zeeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thomas> The debianised blackdown jdk. It's still at a version 1+ > Thomas> years old and multiple releases have seen the light of > Thomas> day. > > As of now (I just looked) jdk 1.3

Re: java2-runtime

2002-09-28 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
On 27 Sep 2002, Stephen Zander wrote: > > "Thomas" == Thomas J Zeeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thomas> The debianised blackdown jdk. It's still at a version 1+ > Thomas> years old and multiple releases have seen the light of > Thomas> day. > > As of now (I just looked) jdk 1.

Re: java2-runtime

2002-09-27 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Thomas" == Thomas J Zeeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> The debianised blackdown jdk. It's still at a version 1+ Thomas> years old and multiple releases have seen the light of Thomas> day. As of now (I just looked) jdk 1.3.1.02b is available in .deb form for i386, powerpc

Re: java2-runtime

2002-09-27 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Thomas" == Thomas J Zeeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> The debianised blackdown jdk. It's still at a version 1+ Thomas> years old and multiple releases have seen the light of Thomas> day. As of now (I just looked) jdk 1.3.1.02b is available in .deb form for i386, powerp

Re: java2-runtime

2002-09-26 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
of day. > What are people's thoughts on how far away we are from having a real > java2-runtime. I'd like to see this become a reality, as we have more > and more apps that use it. Limewire needs it. If you include the entire set of java(x) libraries in your definition of j

Re: java2-runtime

2002-09-26 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
> What are people's thoughts on how far away we are from having a real > java2-runtime. I'd like to see this become a reality, as we have more > and more apps that use it. Limewire needs it. If you include the entire set of java(x) libraries in your definition of java2-runtime it is

Re: java2-runtime

2002-09-26 Thread Michael Cardenas
the latest version? The dummy package? What are people's thoughts on how far away we are from having a real java2-runtime. I'd like to see this become a reality, as we have more and more apps that use it. Limewire needs it. thanks michael -- michael cardenas | lead software en

Re: java2-runtime

2002-09-26 Thread Michael Cardenas
een much activity though. :( > > > Updating what to the latest version? The dummy package? What are people's thoughts on how far away we are from having a real java2-runtime. I'd like to see this become a reality, as we have more and more apps that use it. Limewire needs it.

Re: java2-runtime

2002-09-26 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Tom Badran wrote: > Is there a dummy debian package available that provides this or j2re1.3? I The dummy-package is gone from the archive, but in the latest java-policy there's a section on creating your own dummy package through the use of the equivs-package. It can be fou

Re: java2-runtime

2002-09-26 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Tom Badran wrote: > Is there a dummy debian package available that provides this or j2re1.3? I The dummy-package is gone from the archive, but in the latest java-policy there's a section on creating your own dummy package through the use of the equivs-package. It can be fo

Re: java2-runtime

2002-09-26 Thread yoann
Tom Badran a écrit: Is there a dummy debian package available that provides this or j2re1.3? I have the sun jdk installed and dont want to install the blackdown one just to get frost to work. I have java-virtual-machine-dummy installed which is enought to get tomcat4 to work, but no luck with wi

Re: java2-runtime

2002-09-25 Thread yoann
Tom Badran a écrit: >Is there a dummy debian package available that provides this or j2re1.3? I >have the sun jdk installed and dont want to install the blackdown one just to >get frost to work. I have java-virtual-machine-dummy installed which is >enought to get tomcat4 to work, but no luck w

java2-runtime

2002-09-25 Thread Tom Badran
Is there a dummy debian package available that provides this or j2re1.3? I have the sun jdk installed and dont want to install the blackdown one just to get frost to work. I have java-virtual-machine-dummy installed which is enought to get tomcat4 to work, but no luck with with frost. If this do

java2-runtime

2002-09-25 Thread Tom Badran
Is there a dummy debian package available that provides this or j2re1.3? I have the sun jdk installed and dont want to install the blackdown one just to get frost to work. I have java-virtual-machine-dummy installed which is enought to get tomcat4 to work, but no luck with with frost. If this d

Re: dummy java2-runtime in sid?

2002-08-26 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 08:11:16PM +0200, Grzegorz Prokopski wrote: > W li?cie z czw, 08-08-2002, godz. 13:51, Grzegorz Prokopski pisze: > > W li?cie z czw, 08-08-2002, godz. 11:21, Thomas J. Zeeman pisze: > > > > I'm sure there used to be a dummy java package so that you could install > > >

Re: dummy java2-runtime in sid?

2002-08-26 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 08:11:16PM +0200, Grzegorz Prokopski wrote: > W li?cie z czw, 08-08-2002, godz. 13:51, Grzegorz Prokopski pisze: > > W li?cie z czw, 08-08-2002, godz. 11:21, Thomas J. Zeeman pisze: > > > > I'm sure there used to be a dummy java package so that you could install > >

Re: dummy java2-runtime in sid?

2002-08-08 Thread Grzegorz Prokopski
W liście z czw, 08-08-2002, godz. 13:51, Grzegorz Prokopski pisze: > W liście z czw, 08-08-2002, godz. 11:21, Thomas J. Zeeman pisze: > > > I'm sure there used to be a dummy java package so that you could install > > > packages that depended on a jre package, but you supplied your own? > > Yup, t

Re: dummy java2-runtime in sid?

2002-08-08 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2002-08-08 at 12:51, Grzegorz Prokopski wrote: > So that we weren't forced to reinvent the wheel all the time - I'd > suggest having the set of control files (for equivs) for those dummy > packages included in java-common. > > I am offering myself to prepare them if java-common maintainer

Re: dummy java2-runtime in sid?

2002-08-08 Thread Grzegorz Prokopski
W liście z czw, 08-08-2002, godz. 11:21, Thomas J. Zeeman pisze: > > I'm sure there used to be a dummy java package so that you could install > > packages that depended on a jre package, but you supplied your own? > Yup, they used to exist. They've been pulled 'cause ftp-masters don't > seem to li

Re: dummy java2-runtime in sid?

2002-08-08 Thread Thomas J. Zeeman
On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Greg Wilkins wrote: > The blackdown packages don't show in the lists I get via apt-get update Yup. blackdown has it's own mirrors and the inclusion of their debs in Debian is hindered by some legalese. Something to do with being liable. Search the archive for more info. > o

Re: dummy java2-runtime in sid?

2002-08-08 Thread Greg Wilkins
l packages that depended on a jre package, but you supplied your own? regards Takashi Okamoto wrote: From: Greg Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: dummy java2-runtime in sid? Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 16:20:11 +0100 Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: junit: Depen

Re: dummy java2-runtime in sid?

2002-08-07 Thread Takashi Okamoto
From: Greg Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: dummy java2-runtime in sid? Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 16:20:11 +0100 > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: >junit: Depends: java2-runtime but it is not installable or >j2re1.

dummy java2-runtime in sid?

2002-08-06 Thread Greg Wilkins
There appears to be no dummy package to provide java2-runtime in sid? So I can no longer install junit, or jikes etc: wafer:~# apt-get install junit Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have

Re: tomcat, java2-runtime and Blackdown

2001-11-27 Thread Bill Wohler
Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just did an upgrade and tomcat now requires java2-runtime which the > Blackdown package of j2sdk1.3 does not provide. Is someone working > to upgrade j2sdk1.3 control file so that I don't have to install jdk > 1.1 t

Re: tomcat, java2-runtime and Blackdown

2001-11-26 Thread Bill Wohler
Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just did an upgrade and tomcat now requires java2-runtime which the > Blackdown package of j2sdk1.3 does not provide. Is someone working > to upgrade j2sdk1.3 control file so that I don't have to install jdk > 1.1 t

tomcat, java2-runtime and Blackdown

2001-11-26 Thread Bill Wohler
Just did an upgrade and tomcat now requires java2-runtime which the Blackdown package of j2sdk1.3 does not provide. Is someone working to upgrade j2sdk1.3 control file so that I don't have to install jdk 1.1 to get tomcat to install? In the meantime, is there any update-alterna

tomcat, java2-runtime and Blackdown

2001-11-26 Thread Bill Wohler
Just did an upgrade and tomcat now requires java2-runtime which the Blackdown package of j2sdk1.3 does not provide. Is someone working to upgrade j2sdk1.3 control file so that I don't have to install jdk 1.1 to get tomcat to install? In the meantime, is there any update-alterna