Re: Re: New work on java-package

2012-04-30 Thread Barry Hawkins
[...] >> Hello Barry, >> >> It's nice to see an original maintainer of java-package back on it. I >> hope you will like the changes I made to it :-) >> >> Current state of work is : >> - sources have moved to git >> (git.debian.org/git/pkg-java/java-package.git >> < >> http://git.debian.o

Re: New work on java-package

2012-04-03 Thread Andrew Haley
On 04/03/2012 12:29 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 31/03/2012 21:10, Andrew Haley a écrit : > >>> While reading the authbind documentation I saw it was doing some fork >>> tricks behind the scene. Maybe the forked process can't allocate its >>> memory due to OpenVZ and quits? >> >> Hold on, do you

Re: New work on java-package

2012-04-02 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 31/03/2012 21:10, Andrew Haley a écrit : While reading the authbind documentation I saw it was doing some fork tricks behind the scene. Maybe the forked process can't allocate its memory due to OpenVZ and quits? Hold on, do you see this problem outside OpenVZ? I know that there is a virtua

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-31 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 29/03/2012 14:58, Andrew Haley a écrit : I think the problem is in authbind: it only supports IPv4. OpenVZ comes into the equation too. The bind operation fails with the message "Cannot allocate memory". This may be related to the way authbind forks the process. OpenVZ has the unpleasant

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 03/27/2012 10:12 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 20/03/2012 12:41, Andrew Haley a écrit : >> Comments like this are infuriating. I want to make OpenJDK >> competitive, but I can't do anything with this because I don't know >> what you're talking about. I can't reproduce the problem, so I can't

Re: New work on java-package - Java2D back-end overview

2012-03-29 Thread Barry Hawkins
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Xerxes Rånby wrote: > 2012-03-20 21:10, Matthias Klose skrev: >> On 20.03.2012 13:48, Barry Hawkins wrote: >>> On 3/20/12 7:41 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 03/19/2012 07:11 PM, Barry Hawkins wrote: > The focus of my message was to point out the need for user

Re: New work on java-package - Java2D back-end overview

2012-03-29 Thread Xerxes Rånby
2012-03-29 13:03, Xerxes Rånby skrev: > The well tested but found not to be working one: > 2. The OpenGL backend, java -Dsun.java2d.xrender=True Typo, use -Dsun.java2d.opengl=True here. (Use True for verbose output and true for non-verbose output) > This back-end have been included all the t

Re: New work on java-package - Java2D back-end overview

2012-03-29 Thread Xerxes Rånby
2012-03-20 21:10, Matthias Klose skrev: > On 20.03.2012 13:48, Barry Hawkins wrote: >> On 3/20/12 7:41 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: >>> On 03/19/2012 07:11 PM, Barry Hawkins wrote: The focus of my message was to point out the need for users of Debian and its derivatives to be able to install

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 03/28/2012 11:50 PM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 28/03/2012 19:38, Andrew Haley a écrit : >> If you run >> >> strace -f -etrace=net java ... >> >> you'll be able to see the bind call that fails, and we can take it >> from there. > > Thank you for the tip, I'll give it a try. I'm not familiar wit

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-28 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 28/03/2012 19:38, Andrew Haley a écrit : If you run strace -f -etrace=net java ... you'll be able to see the bind call that fails, and we can take it from there. Thank you for the tip, I'll give it a try. I'm not familiar with strace, "-etrace=net" seems to be rejected. The syntax bellow

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-28 Thread Andrew Haley
On 03/27/2012 10:12 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 20/03/2012 12:41, Andrew Haley a écrit : >> Comments like this are infuriating. I want to make OpenJDK >> competitive, but I can't do anything with this because I don't know >> what you're talking about. I can't reproduce the problem, so I can't

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-27 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 20/03/2012 12:41, Andrew Haley a écrit : Comments like this are infuriating. I want to make OpenJDK competitive, but I can't do anything with this because I don't know what you're talking about. I can't reproduce the problem, so I can't fix it. Is there anything more frustrating than being

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-21 Thread Barry Hawkins
On 3/21/12 10:31 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 09:28:12PM +0100, Cédric Pineau a écrit : 2012/3/20 Barry Hawkins I'll clone your github repo and take a look; is the original pkg-java SVN repo available still? Getting an idea of the delta will help me calibrate. I'm afr

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-21 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 09:28:12PM +0100, Cédric Pineau a écrit : > 2012/3/20 Barry Hawkins > > > I'll clone your github repo and take a look; is the original pkg-java SVN > > repo available still? Getting an idea of the delta will help me calibrate. > > > > I'm afraid no. It has been deleted :

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-20 Thread Cédric Pineau
2012/3/20 Barry Hawkins > I'll clone your github repo and take a look; is the original pkg-java SVN > repo available still? Getting an idea of the delta will help me calibrate. > I'm afraid no. It has been deleted :-/ -- Cédric

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-20 Thread Matthias Klose
On 20.03.2012 13:48, Barry Hawkins wrote: On 3/20/12 7:41 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 03/19/2012 07:11 PM, Barry Hawkins wrote: The focus of my message was to point out the need for users of Debian and its derivatives to be able to install an official JRE or JDK from Oracle. If I gave the impres

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-20 Thread Barry Hawkins
On 3/20/12 2:02 PM, Cédric Pineau wrote: [...] Hello Barry, It's nice to see an original maintainer of java-package back on it. I hope you will like the changes I made to it :-) Current state of work is : - sources have moved to git (git.debian.org/git/pkg-java/java-package.git

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-20 Thread Cédric Pineau
2012/3/19 Barry Hawkins > Having been away for a few years, I need to come up to speed on the > changes to packaging policy and the workflow for package development with > the new Git repository, etc., but I'm sure it'll come back to me quickly, > like riding a bicycle. :-) > Hello Barry, It'

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-20 Thread Barry Hawkins
On 3/20/12 7:41 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 03/19/2012 07:11 PM, Barry Hawkins wrote: The focus of my message was to point out the need for users of Debian and its derivatives to be able to install an official JRE or JDK from Oracle. If I gave the impression of criticizing OpenJDK, my apologies;

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-20 Thread Andrew Haley
On 03/19/2012 07:11 PM, Barry Hawkins wrote: > The focus of my message was to point out the need for users of Debian > and its derivatives to be able to install an official JRE or JDK from > Oracle. If I gave the impression of criticizing OpenJDK, my apologies; > that was not the intent. > > Li

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-19 Thread Barry Hawkins
On 3/19/12 12:51 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 03/19/2012 02:04 PM, Barry Hawkins wrote: For example, JetBrains IntelliJ IDEA, one of the main IDEs for Java development, still doesn't endorse the use of OpenJDK. If you download IDEA and launch it via a terminal, you will see the following warning:

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-19 Thread Manfred Moser
On 12-03-19 09:51 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 03/19/2012 02:04 PM, Barry Hawkins wrote: For example, JetBrains IntelliJ IDEA, one of the main IDEs for Java development, still doesn't endorse the use of OpenJDK. If you download IDEA and launch it via a terminal, you will see the following warning:

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-19 Thread Andrew Haley
On 03/19/2012 02:04 PM, Barry Hawkins wrote: > For example, JetBrains IntelliJ IDEA, one of the main IDEs for Java > development, still doesn't endorse the use of OpenJDK. If you download > IDEA and launch it via a terminal, you will see the following warning: > > > ~$ ./idea-IC-111.277/bin/ide

Re: New work on java-package

2012-03-19 Thread Barry Hawkins
To build upon several threads regarding java-package, I've played with it on my side with the hope it could find his way back in debian (I too need clean installs of Oracle java on debian, should it only be because it's Oracle one and companies/people don't want to hear about subtle differences

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 January 2012 20:38, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > Le mardi 10 janvier 2012 à 20:32 +, David Gerard a écrit : >> Would you have to hand whatever scripts you used to maintain it? (And >> are these releasable?) > I don't understand your question. > sun-java6 packaging files are still available

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-10 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
Le mardi 10 janvier 2012 à 20:32 +, David Gerard a écrit : > 2012/1/10 Sylvestre Ledru : > > > As the previous maintainer of sun-java6, I am willing to sponsor (and > > maintain) it. > > > Would you have to hand whatever scripts you used to maintain it? (And > are these releasable?) I don't

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-10 Thread David Gerard
2012/1/10 Sylvestre Ledru : > As the previous maintainer of sun-java6, I am willing to sponsor (and > maintain) it. Would you have to hand whatever scripts you used to maintain it? (And are these releasable?) - d. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-java-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-10 Thread Cédric Pineau
Le 10 janvier 2012 03:19, Sylvestre Ledru a écrit : > As the previous maintainer of sun-java6, I am willing to sponsor (and > maintain) it. > > Please commit your work in the Debian Java team (git or svn, I don't > mind). > > Great :-) ! I uploaded it on git. I didn't import previous svn, just

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-10 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
Bonjour Cédric, Le dimanche 01 janvier 2012 à 22:00 +0100, Cédric Pineau a écrit : > > To build upon several threads regarding java-package, I've played with > it on my side with the hope it could find his way back in debian (I > too need clean installs of Oracle java on debian, should it only be

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-06 Thread David Gerard
I've put a description of how I used Cédric's java-package to make a deb of Oracle JDK 6u30: http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/574156.html (I have noted Matthias' strong disapproval of parts of the patch.) We're deploying this to the template for all our new Ubuntu VMs, so I'm sure we'll discove

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-04 Thread Matthias Klose
On 01/04/2012 01:51 PM, David Gerard wrote: > [to list as well as Russ!] > > > On 3 January 2012 19:17, Russ Allbery wrote: >> David Gerard writes: > >>> To clarify: these are binaries that the previous 6u26 packages linked >>> from /etc/alternatives, which running the present Oracle 6u30 JDK

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-04 Thread David Gerard
[to list as well as Russ!] On 3 January 2012 19:17, Russ Allbery wrote: > David Gerard writes: >> To clarify: these are binaries that the previous 6u26 packages linked >> from /etc/alternatives, which running the present Oracle 6u30 JDK >> through Cedric's java-package doesn't link. > Per pre

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-03 Thread Russ Allbery
David Gerard writes: > To clarify: these are binaries that the previous 6u26 packages linked > from /etc/alternatives, which running the present Oracle 6u30 JDK > through Cedric's java-package doesn't link. Per previous discussion on the list, apparently apt is rather obsolete and has been subsu

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-03 Thread David Gerard
To clarify: these are binaries that the previous 6u26 packages linked from /etc/alternatives, which running the present Oracle 6u30 JDK through Cedric's java-package doesn't link. On 3 January 2012 17:26, David Gerard wrote: > It appears the following binaries in /usr/lib/jvm/j2sdk1.6-oracle >

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 January 2012 13:08, David Gerard wrote: > On 2 January 2012 18:29, David Gerard wrote: >> Me? No, I'm interested in current versions that haven't been packaged >> because of Oracle taking back the licence :-) >> I'll try it tomorrow (back at work) and will report back! > It seems to make a

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-03 Thread David Gerard
On 2 January 2012 18:29, David Gerard wrote: > 2012/1/2 Cédric Pineau : >>  I've put back support for oracle-java6 >= update10. >>  Do you need previous java6 releases to be supported too ? > Me? No, I'm interested in current versions that haven't been packaged > because of Oracle taking back th

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-02 Thread David Gerard
2012/1/2 Cédric Pineau : >  I've put back support for oracle-java6 >= update10. >  Do you need previous java6 releases to be supported too ? Me? No, I'm interested in current versions that haven't been packaged because of Oracle taking back the licence :-) I'll try it tomorrow (back at work) an

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-02 Thread Cédric Pineau
I've put back support for oracle-java6 >= update10. Do you need previous java6 releases to be supported too ? Cédric Le 1 janvier 2012 22:32, Cédric Pineau a écrit : > > > 2012/1/1 David Gerard > >> Looking at it, it no longer seems to support Oracle Java 6. Speaking >> as a prospective us

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-02 Thread Cédric Pineau
Le 2 janvier 2012 08:06, Matthias Klose a écrit : > - priority of java7 alternatives should be higher than > java6 alternatives (i.e. 317 instead of 316) > Priorities were set to 316 for sun-java6-jre and 315 for sun-java6-jdk in java-package-0.42 Should I follow this, with for example 3

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-01 Thread Matthias Klose
On 01/01/2012 10:00 PM, Cédric Pineau wrote: > To build upon several threads regarding java-package, I've played with it > on my side with the hope it could find his way back in debian (I too need > clean installs of Oracle java on debian, should it only be because it's > Oracle one and companies/p

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Cédric Pineau writes: > Do you, debian developpers and java-package authors, think this "trimmed > and renewed" version could be a new start for java-package ? > Is it desirable for debian to offer a tool that ease the use of non free > software like Oracle JVM ? ( > http://lists.debian.org/debia

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-01 Thread Cédric Pineau
2012/1/1 David Gerard > Looking at it, it no longer seems to support Oracle Java 6. Speaking > as a prospective user, it would be wonderful if it did :-) Oracle Java > 6 is still a current version, it hasn't been EOLed. > > You're right, I removed it to get a clean start, but putting it back is

Re: New work on java-package

2012-01-01 Thread David Gerard
2012/1/1 Cédric Pineau : > Do you, debian developpers and java-package authors, think this "trimmed and > renewed" version could be a new start for java-package ? > Is it desirable for debian to offer a tool that ease the use of non free > software like Oracle JVM ? > (http://lists.debian.org/debi

New work on java-package

2012-01-01 Thread Cédric Pineau
To build upon several threads regarding java-package, I've played with it on my side with the hope it could find his way back in debian (I too need clean installs of Oracle java on debian, should it only be because it's Oracle one and companies/people don't want to hear about subtle differences, th