Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
2014-07-16 22:32 GMT+02:00 Miguel Landaeta : > It's totally normal to have technical disagreements, especially on a > non-trivial packages like that one. What I really dislike is to > see epithets like "bullshit" or "own agenda" in a technical > discussion. > +1 -- Arnaud Vandyck http://about.m

Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-16 Thread Miguel Landaeta
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 09:50:46AM +0200, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > > > I think that is unfair statement against Emmanuel (especially when > adding d-d & d-r to the cc list). Totally agree with Sylvestre on this. I also have sponsored many packages for Emmanuel in the Java team. Frankly, I don't g

Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-16 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 16/07/2014 11:24, Rene Engelhard a écrit : > Bad, but other packages broken is not a reason to break more. > > *any* Java application which is built on/for kfreebsd-* (which has native > stuff) or _all (where it's available on kfreebsd-*, too) I understand that would be ideal but that's unrea

Aw: Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-16 Thread Steffen Möller
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2014 um 09:50 Uhr > Von: "Sylvestre Ledru" > An: "Matthias Klose" , "Emmanuel Bourg" , > "Debian Java" > Cc: "debian-de...@lists.debian.org" , "Debian > Release" > Betreff

Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-16 Thread Rene Engelhard
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 01:24:52AM +0200, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 16/07/2014 00:07, Rene Engelhard a écrit : > > > This is nonsense. Not yet - not as long we want/need gcj (on some archs). > > Fair enough. But we already have a lot of packages incompatible with gcj > in Jessie. Bad, but other

Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-16 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
On 15/07/2014 23:55, Matthias Klose wrote: > Am 15.07.2014 23:08, schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: >> This was expected but now it's effective, Java 9 no longer supports >> source/target level 1.5: >> >> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk9-dev/2014-July/000972.html >> >> So if you update a package a

Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 16 Jul 2014, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 16/07/2014 00:07, Rene Engelhard a écrit : > > > This is nonsense. Not yet - not as long we want/need gcj (on some archs). > > Fair enough. But we already have a lot of packages incompatible with gcj > in Jessie. Ugh. If you have time, can you wor

Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-15 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 16/07/2014 00:07, Rene Engelhard a écrit : > This is nonsense. Not yet - not as long we want/need gcj (on some archs). Fair enough. But we already have a lot of packages incompatible with gcj in Jessie. What are the Java applications we want/need on these archs? We should probably document th

Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-15 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 15/07/2014 23:55, Matthias Klose a écrit : > No. Don't do it. This is complete bullshit for Debian at this point. We are > trying to prepare a release, working on a possible update to Java 8, and we > don't have the resources to work on Java 9 at this time. Ok, but could you say it nicely ple

Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-15 Thread Rene Engelhard
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:08:13PM +0200, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > So if you update a package and see these settings please bump them to 1.6. This is nonsense. Not yet - not as long we want/need gcj (on some archs). And changing that now for jessie is not feasible. Regards, Rene -- To UNSUBSC

Re: Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-15 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 15.07.2014 23:08, schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: > This was expected but now it's effective, Java 9 no longer supports > source/target level 1.5: > > http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk9-dev/2014-July/000972.html > > So if you update a package and see these settings please bump them to 1.6. >

Java 9 dropping support for source/target level 1.5

2014-07-15 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
This was expected but now it's effective, Java 9 no longer supports source/target level 1.5: http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk9-dev/2014-July/000972.html So if you update a package and see these settings please bump them to 1.6. It might be interesting to add a Lintian warning when a ja