Call for participation: Free Java @ FOSDEM 2012

r submitting a talk can be found at: http://wiki.debian.org/Java/DevJam/2012/Fosdem/CallForParticipation Please join us! --The Free Java DevRoom Organizing Committee Andrew Haley, Red Hat Dalibor Topic, Oracle Dr Andrew John Hughes, Red Hat Mark Wielaard, IcedTea Sylvestre Ledru, Debi

Free Java @ FOSDEM 2011 - Talk Schedule

developers Stanislav Ochotnicky 16:00 - 16:25 break 16:25 - 16:30 What makes IcedTea tick? Mark Wielaard 16:30 - 17:00 What in the world is this 'IcedTea-Web' project? Deepak Bhole 17:00 - 17:30 The Free javaws Implementation in IcedTea

Re: What is openjdk equivalent of javaws.jar

On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 15:08 +0530, Onkar Shinde wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to package a software (sweethome3d) which uses some > classes from javax.jnlp package. When I searched on javacio.us the > results indicated that the classes I am looking for are part of > javaws.jar. This file is current

Re: java bytecode / java runtime version mismatch

On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 10:03 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > Mark Wielaard writes: > > I thought all (free) runtimes accepted version 50 bytecode these days, > > even if they say they implement only java-runtime5. Is this a problem in > > practice? And if so against which runti

Re: java bytecode / java runtime version mismatch

Hi Matthias, On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 09:25 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > I filed bug reports for packages building with openjdk-6 or cacao-oj6, > producing java bytecode for version 50, and which still depend on > java-runtime5, or earlier (attached at the end). > > This package builds with o

Re: ImageJ: OpenJdk has problems with JPEGImageEncoder

On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 07:56 -0700, David Herron wrote: > > com.sun.image.codec.jpeg.JPEGImageEncoder - This is a private class, > not a public class, and we've always maintained freedom to > drop/change/modify private classes at any time. This was dropped. > This issue is upstream in the openjdk

Re: Sun's graphic art for Java

On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 17:18 +0200, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Eric Lavarde - Debian wrote: > > the icons set distributed by Sun under [1] doesn't respond to the DFSG > > criteria (point ii of the -attached- license doesn't allow for > > modifications, as pointed out by my sponsor, in cc), hence a few q

Re: OpenJDK for lenny

Hi, On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:34 -0700, David Herron wrote: > Each synchronized security release involves simultaneous release of > all current binary JDK bundles as well as OpenJDK 6/7 source releases > of the same bug fixes. For OpenJDK there is some kind of behind the > scenes source handshakin

Get ready for Fosdem - Free Java Meeting

In just two weeks, 22 and 23 February, the Free Java Meeting will take place during Fosdem in Brussels, Belgium. There is a dynamic program with lots of (short) talks and space for discussions on the state of the various free java projects, mobile java, the VM and the Distro Rumble, the free java

Re: GNU/Linux Java Policy and Packaging

On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 01:01 +0100, Paul Cager wrote: > * How do you detect when a new version breaks the ABI? It seems quite > complicated. Do you use a tool to compare the classes / method > signatures, etc, or do you only bump the slot number if an application > fails? There is Japitools http:/

Re: Sun's OpenJDK in Debian?

(CC openjdk distro-pkg-dev to keep them in the loop about the progress) On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 12:14 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: > Mark Wielaard writes: > > > Only bootstraps on Fedora 7 for now, but we are making (very) slow > > progress to get things to build fu

Re: Sun's OpenJDK in Debian?

On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 22:50 +0200, Michael Koch wrote: > > Is this the main blocker for accepting OpenJDK in Debian? Would it be > > possible to just omit the binary modules or to replace these with free > > implementations from other free projects? > > Yes, this is a big blocker for this. We are

Re: Location of API docs

On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 01:12 +0100, Michael Koch wrote: > On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 09:19:31PM +, Paul Cager wrote: > > Marcus Better wrote: > > > Matthias Klose wrote: > > >> Assuming that the doc is installed in /usr/share/doc/libfoo-java/api, > > >> a reference to a class Bar should point to ..

Re: Location of API docs

Hi Matthias, On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 21:11 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > The idea was to make the -doc packages depend on other -doc packages > so that references to other packages can be resolved; unfortunately > gjdoc doesn't support that yet. What would you need from gjdoc to support 'that'? Co

Sun has an ombudsman

Hi, I saw the swift reaction on bug #276302: [Sun License for JavaCC] which has been an issue for years (upstream claims it is free software under a modern bsd license, but some files had additional restriction). Getting a real answer, an acknowledgment that this is a problem with regard to the DF

Re: jogl

Hi, On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 11:35 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > And AFAIK some problems occur with the free-java stack. But I don't > > know the current status. > > A prebuilt version of jogl was used successfully with worldwind2d, > classpath and jamvm more than 6 months ago, so I believe

Re: ITP: openjdk-compiler

Hi, On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 07:47 +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 09:04:26PM +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote: > > We are not completely there yet though. > > Thanks a lot for that information. I'll try to dig further into this > in order to make it buildabl

Re: ITP: openjdk-compiler

Hi, On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 16:53 +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 03:55:24PM +0100, Marcus Better wrote: > > > I have now determined that it can build using itself as compiler > > > (If I make a preliminary version bootstrapped with binary sun javac). > > > > Then it would hav

Re: JDK is GPL now! a package in main requested

Hi, On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 09:40 +, Mr. Demeanour wrote: > > See planet.classpath.org . Many of us are really happy about it, and > > have begun playing around with Sun's code. I believe the fun hack for > > today is making cacao work with Sun's ME libraries, there have been a > > few such thin

Re: tomcat5.5: fails to start at boot

On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 11:39 +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > pietro ferrari wrote: > [...] > > Starting Tomcat 5 servlet engine using Java from > > /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj: tomcat5.5 > [...] > > WARNING: error instantiating 'org.apache.juli.ClassLoad

Re: JavaMail and JAF

On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 15:15 +0200, Marcus Better wrote: > Matthias Klose wrote: > > what do you mean by "out of the box"? > > Sorry for being unclear. Can the classpathx versions work as drop-in > replacements for the Sun packages? > > (JBoss contains jar files for JavaMail 1.3.1 and JAF 1.0.2. I

Re: backporting the classpath 0.92 changes from the gcc-4_1-rh-branch

Hi Matthias, On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 23:15 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Using the gcj/jc1 from the gcc-4_1-rh-branch to build the merged > sources shows the same behaviour, so I assume that the problem is in > the libjava/classpath merge, not in the gcc/java merge. Any help or > suggestions are we

Re: Can I use the apps running free Java???

Hi, On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 10:38 -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 09:32:30AM +0100, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote: > > Is it possible to run the following combination of applications on a > > Debian AMD64 Etch installation, using nothing but free software (I know > > it can using

Re: Can I use the apps running free Java???

Hoi, On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 09:49 +0100, Stephan Michels wrote: > On 1/26/06, Joost Kraaijeveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it possible to run the following combination of applications on a > > Debian AMD64 Etch installation, using nothing but free software (I know > > it can using Sun's SDK,

Re: Trying to build jonas deb package

Hi Praveen, On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 20:12 +0530, प्रवीण् ए (Praveen A) wrote: > Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException >at > > org.objectweb.carol.jndi.spi.URLInitialContextFactory.getInitialContext > (URLInitialContextFactory.java:51) >at javax.naming.s

Re: kaffe transition & freemind

Hi Eric, On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 09:22 +0100, Eric Lavarde - Debian wrote: > I've got a good news: FreeMind is compiling with the new kaffe. > The bad news is that it's not usable with kaffe (FreeMind starts but spits > errors, doesn't redraw properly when using the menus, and is just not > usable).

GNU Classpath & friends meeting during Fosdem 2006

grate the projects more and move forward in the next year. - State of the world, beyond japi Mark Wielaard, GNU Classpath Maintainer After a short overview of the various free stacks, libraries, compilers, tools and runtimes this session is mostly open discussion about what work rema

Re: Is classpath-tools useful?

Hi Petter, On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 10:47 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I just found classpath-tools listed quite high on > http://haydn.debian.org/~thuriaux-guest/qa/global.html>. The > package look like it could need some care. Is the package still > useful? I could not quite see what it d

Re: WTF: All those eclipse packages (and som gcj questions)

Hi, On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 16:35 +0100, Michael Koch wrote: > > Also the generics don't work when using the java-gcj-compat VM as you > > suggested for beeing able to use ecj as compiler. > > All language extensions from Java 5.0 work with GCJ 4.0. The main problem > is just that you cant use the

Re: SWT_AWT bridge with gcj !?

Hi, On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 09:34 +0100, Michael Koch wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 12:33:52AM +0100, Sebastian Menge wrote: > The problem is that SWT_AWT uses a class that is only available in > SUN-derived VMs. This class is in a protected namespace and not > docmented publicly. GNU classpath d

Re: CPL in debian?

Hi, On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 08:55 +0100, Michael Koch wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 01:01:16AM +0100, Sebastian Menge wrote: > > Especially: If I develop a eclipse-plugin under the CPL using only CPL > > and/or GPL software, may I put it back to debian? > > Well, Eclipse is in Debian which is l

Re: [Quantian-general] Weka Machine Learning Environment

Hi, On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 12:51 -0600, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > On 5 November 2005 at 12:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > | I would be very interested in seeing the Weka machine learning environment > | added to a live-DVD, such as Quantian. Weka is a powerful, open-source > | data mining package

GNU Classpath hacker room at FOSDEM 2006

n in more depth to get developers of the other projects to join in a share the fun. - Sunday from 13:00 to 17:30 - "The Future" hard core interactive technical hacker discussions on how to integrate the projects more and move forward in the next year. Arnaud Vandyck, Dalibor Topic, Mark

Re: ant VS make

On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 23:32 +0200, Daniele Menozzi wrote: > Hi all, I've always used make for my java projects, but recently I tried > ant. It seems interesting, but it has a huge drawback: it is really slower > than make. There is a replacement project gantt that is a lot faster, but doesn't sup

Re: JCE Code Signing Certificate

Hi, On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 16:45 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> In the meantime, it occurred to me that the certified key (including > >> the private key) would have to be included in the source package, > >> otherwise the package would fail to build from source. > >> > >> While I see nothing i

Re: JCE Code Signing Certificate

Hi, On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 09:51 +0200, Michael Koch wrote: > This is a big field which needs even bigger investigation. The free > runtimes can load them but signed jars are still not supported (or was > this fixed lately...). Your best action would be to just test it with > kaffe or gcj or whatev

Re: Current status of your swt-gtk package

Hi, On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 16:36 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote: > > So basically the information in this article applies? > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7413 > > No. That's an old article and was written before gcj's Binary Compatible > ABI was implemented. That was the "first generati

DevJam reports

Hi all, The GNU Classpath distro DevJam was a great success. It seems we brought some harmony into the hearts and minds of the different distributions (Ubuntu, SkoleLinux, Debian, Fedora, Suse, Gentoo, OpenEmbedded) that participated. And being able to talk and debug some issues with several of th

Re: How to compile java files?

t; [...] > > That can be a hot topic, but I'd say the majority of us default to kaffe. > > Because Mark Wielaard gave me a pointer on a debug FAQ for kaffe, I tend > to use kaffe. > > Thanks for your hot answer. :) But, but, but. That message was meant to show that you how

Re: Bouncy Castle ready

Hi, On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 11:51 -0400, Charles Fry wrote: > I'd like to test this bug against .17, but was hoping to avoid spending > a lot of time doing so. What are the prospects of getting .17 into > Debian? > > I'd be glad to help out if there is anything I could do. :-) Try filing a wishlis

Re: Bouncy Castle ready

Hi Charles, On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 10:15 -0400, Charles Fry wrote: > > Did you report those bugs to the classpath mailing list? > > No, that is what I was trying to ask how to do. I know the specific test > cases that fail, but assumed that I should dig deeper into the code to > find the root caus

GNU Classpath distro DevJam "Europe" (Oldenburg, Germany, 23 - 25 September)

Hi all, On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 16:02 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > Various Debian packagers and developers are interested in coming > together to improve the Free Software tool chain, the programs and > the free runtime environments for software written in the java > programming langua

Re: DISPLAY="" makes sablevm and kaffe fail

Hi, On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 22:16 +0200, Michael Koch wrote: > > I will start to maintain a package[1][2] used for analysing the boot > > process. I collects data while booting and saves they somewhere. Later > > the user can run a java program to render a graph from this data. > > > > If the DISPL

Re: java debugger in Debian

Hi Joerg, On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 12:18 +, Joerg Sommer wrote: > exists a Java debugger in Debian? I tried jswat, but it do not work > without special classes. jswat needs some jdpa infrastructure which isn't available yet. There is a lot of work going on for jdwp at the moment in GNU Classpath

Re: Eclipse 3.1-7 debs uploaded

On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 14:25 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > I am also trying to build it from source. But got the following error > after a while: > > build.cfiles: > [java] Could not find > org.eclipse.swt.tools.internal.JNIGeneratorApp. Make sure y

Re: Eclipse 3.1-7 debs uploaded

Hi, On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 13:52 +0200, Damien Raude-Morvan wrote: > > Same error here, I already reported the full log to Michael in a private > > mail. > > I did it too. > Poor Michael : spammed for working in an free software project :) Same here. Sent him a couple of K of log output. Sorry Mi

Re: Eclipse 3.1-7 debs uploaded

Hi, On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 21:29 +0200, Niklaus Giger wrote: > After installing eclipse-platform-gcj I got the next error (see attachement). > What is still missing? Any hints would be appreciated That log file looks very similar to what I am getting on x86 after updating to the 3.1-7 packages. Th

Re: Missing JSpinner component

Hi, On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 22:06 +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > Waiting - and helping out - for a working swing implementation in GNU > > classpath. When this goal is achieved for the different applications is > > to be decided by the packager (who should from time to time test it > > IMHO). > >

GNU Classpath distro DevJam

Hi all, Various Debian packagers and developers are interested in coming together to improve the Free Software tool chain, the programs and the free runtime environments for software written in the java programming language. For such a meeting we would like to include packagers from various distr

Re: Eclipse Debian package status

Hi, On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 16:42 -0400, Charles Fry wrote: > I am attempting to contact anyone who has previously expressed an > interest in packaging a new Eclipse release for Debian. I grabbed > everyone from the ITA, as well as the Alioth project, and the Java list > for good measure. :-) I hav

Re: GCJ Native Proposal

Hi, On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 22:00 +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:35:56 +0100, > Michael Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You are right, its not always a gain. Tom Tromey told me that he is > > aware of one case where the native library is slower then interpreting > > the j

Re: gcj4 changes : Please Comment

Hi, On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 16:29 -0500, Jerry Haltom wrote: > Okay from how I understand it: The classloader is not altered and must > still use Jars (since applications, like Eclipse, do override and make > their own classloader). The classloader returns a byte[] representing > the resource to the

Re: GCJ Native Proposal

Hi, On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 21:28 +0200, Michael Koch wrote: > On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 09:55:00PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:45:29 -0500, > > Barry Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Michael Koch wrote: > > > | On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 01:13:23PM -0600, Jerry Ha

Re: GCJ Native Proposal

Hi, On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 21:30 +0200, Michael Koch wrote: > We can decide to pubild only some archs to native. E.g. native libs for > Eclipse > make little sense on arm. Why does it make less sense on arm then on any of the other architectures? Cheers, Mark signature.asc Description: This i

Re: Eclipse 3.0 on GCJ test and release schema

Hi, On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 13:00 +0100, Daniele Cruciani wrote: > Here is what I did: > > [added a line of mentors source] > > `apt-get source libjsch-java` > > `apt-get build-dep libjsch-java` > > `apt-get --build source libjsc` > > 'dpkg -i libjsch-java_0.1.19-1_all.deb libjsch-java-doc_0.1.

Re: Eclipse 3.0 on GCJ

Hi Jerry, On Sun, 2005-01-30 at 00:01 -0600, Jerry Haltom wrote: > I have revamped my Eclipse 3.0 packages to build and run properly on > gcj/gij. It still runs on other VMs. When run using gij however, it run > using native libraries. It's fast. Give it a go. > > I have uploaded Eclipse 3.0 to

Re: Running Eclipse 3.0.1 packages on a few VMs

On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 08:52 -0600, Jerry Haltom wrote: > > > > > > Yes, we've seen this before. It is not good it ignores a lock after > > > only 5 seconds. Maybe, as a debian-specific patch we could have this > > > timeout somewhat increased? 20s? > > > > Sounds reasonable, unless anyone has

GNU Classpath based execution environments (Was: Eclipse 3.0)

Hi, On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 12:21 -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > Måns Rullgård <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > AFAIK, Eclipse uses only the standard Java API > > as published by Sun, and will run equally well with any implementation > > of said interface. > > Great -- which implementation doe

GPL and CPL/APL are NOT compatible (Was: Eclipse 3.0 Running on Kaffe)

Hi, (CCed debian-legal, so they know where we are, what we are working on and where we might need some help in the future) On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 01:10 -0500, Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote: > On Wed, 2005-12-01 at 02:49 +, Dalibor Topic wrote: > > However if nobody stands up and say clearly, t

Re: Which JVM do other PPC users use?

Hi, On Sat, 2004-10-02 at 00:47, Barry Hawkins wrote: > What JVMs are you > other PowerPC users employing? Are there many of us? I kind of > thought I was the odd bird with that. I am using gcj and gij on PowerPC and they work just fine. JamVM and kaffe also work, but being interpreters they

Re: java-gnome vs. SWT

Hi, On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 17:29, Jan Schulz wrote: > * Mark Wielaard wrote: > >Since SWT is distributed under the CPL, Common Public License, which is > >not GPL compatible, you won't be able to distribute a larger work based > >on it under the GPL. > > What is

Re: java-gnome vs. SWT (I know this has been asked before..but need some clarification)

Hi, On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 22:09, Rishabh Manocha wrote: > when developing a GUI application with java, is it better(keeping > portability in mind) to use the java-gnome packages or the SWT packages? > I know this has been asked before but this exact questions was not answered(I > went through the

Re: RFH: how to really assemble java packages

Hi, On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 17:10, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi lsc.hu> writes: > > > > * Dalibor Topic kaffe.org> [2004-09-16 11:18:00 +]: > > > > > Thanks for presentig the case to upstream. I hope they will follow > > > your suggestions. > > But before they asked the

Re: Question about java-virtual-machine

Hi, On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 04:12, Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote: > Not sure it's a good idea. Given that the "java-virtual-machine" > dependency was created to accomodate the properties shared among > the JVMs and that most of JVMs, in general, is capable of running > JNI code, running a JNI code is

Re: gij and Swing

Hi, On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 20:27, Shaun Jackman wrote: > ii libgcj5-awt3.4.1-4sarge1 AWT peer runtime libraries for use with gcj > > What does this error message mean? Can it be fixed? Strangely enough the libgcj5-awt package in testing is completely empty. This even seems intentionally if

Re: [kaffe] kaffe/jikes makes incompatible code for jdk1.3? (was: [Detelin Batchovski] Bug#262897: libservlet2.3-java_4.0-4: Failed start Tomcat4 after upgrade)

Hi, On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 23:48, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > I built javax.servlet with kaffe/jikes/ant1.6, but when running with > jre1.3, it seems there is a problem... log is attached. Seems the runtime that is used doesn't support newer versions of class file byte code (Unsupported major.minor ve

Re: Co-maintaining Kaffe

Hi, On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 23:27, Ean Schuessler wrote: > [...] we need to talk [...] Yes! And you did. Thanks for joining us last evening on #kaffe (irc.gnu.org). I am really glad that we are communicating now. > Reasonably, however, you need to acknowledge > that Arnaud's efforts to work with

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

Hi, On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 01:19, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > If Red Hat is willing to give the > work back to the community (I hope they'll do), the demo was really > good. If the promises will never be available it would be *very* > frustrating. Everything is out there

Re: Co-maintaining Kaffe

Hi, As an up-up-stream maintainer for GNU Classpath, which is used by kaffe and as a kaffe developer I must say that I find some emails about maintaining the kaffe package for Debian highly unfair to Arnaud. Arnaud does all the work on kaffe and communicates with lots of other package maintainers

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

Hi, On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 19:25, Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote: > W liście z wto, 02-03-2004, godz. 10:54, Stefan Gybas pisze: > [... cutting out all things that I agree with ... ] > > - License conflicts with GPL'ed Java interpreters > > > >Currently Kaffe 1.1.x is the best choice for running

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

Hi, Thanks for the report! On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 16:54, Stefan Gybas wrote: > - Native compilation > >Mark Wielaard and Tom Tromey showed a natively compiled version of >Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org) using gcj. Arnaud and I talked to >them about packaging na

Re: [kaffe] Re: bugwatcher problems

Hi, On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 20:42, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Ean Schuessler wrote: > > As I recall (Dalibor will need to correct me here) forking a process with > > pthreads just plain doesn't work. The details escape me at this point other > > than the complexities of managing the relationship betwe

Re: bugwatcher problems

Hi, On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 12:32, Mark Howard wrote: > I was hoping that some Debian Java experts might be able to help out > with a couple of problems with bugwatcher (debbuggtk package). > > 1) > Bugwatcher works with gij or blackdown java > My wrapper scripts just call /usr/bin/java, sinc

Re: Bug#229001: argouml: fails to start

Hi, On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 12:08, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Then it's a bug in SableVM ;) Maybe refiling it under SableVM will make > Gadek implement enough of Swing to make ArgoUML run ;) Speaking about Swing. Look what Graydon Hoare just committed to libgcj (will move into GNU Classpath proper soo

Fosdem 2004 program

ning - keynotes http://www.fosdem.org/2004/index/schedule Saterday afternoon: - 14h00 -> 14h50 GNU Classpath -- Core Classes for a Diversity of Free Java Virtual Machines (GNU Classpath overview and free applications/runtimes show.) by Sascha Brawer and Mark Wielaard - 15h00 -

Re: GR: Removal of non-free

ical now, to make it more appealing to others we could probably make this into a showcase of applications and VMs that shows what is possible with free java replacements today.) Discussion topics (small hacker meetings): - GNU Classpath 1.0 RoadMap discussion (Mark Wielaard). - Free VM/Compiler in

Re: Bug Status of Kaffe

Hi, On Sat, 2003-12-27 at 23:51, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Umm, based on the current (1.1.1-5.2) Kaffe changelogs, not all of > them are closed. The latest upstream changelog entry is from > 2003-08-03 whereas bug #207998 is fixed with changelog entry of > 2003-10-06. BTW. Why is Debian using such a

Re: Bug Status of Kaffe

Hi, On Thu, 2003-12-25 at 03:12, Ben Burton wrote: > > > #210716 jython causes kaffe to fail with assert error > > > > > > , > > > | Version: 1:1.1.1-1 > > > | > > > | > After removing the JNI lines from jython shell script (see > > > | > issue #207998)

Re: Eclipse

Hi, On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 19:23, Victor Niebla wrote: > Hi all, has someone succeded on building and using Eclipse with > Free Vm (like sablevm or kaffe) + Classpath ??? Sure. It works with most of the free runtimes now. You have your choice of: - mono + ikvm.net http://weblog.ikvm.net/PermaLink

Re: [mark's edition] [RFC] Upcoming Apache Software Foundation License changes

Hi Dalibor, (Feel free to forward my comments as is to others. I already included debian-java since you had already CC-ed them) On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 19:53, Dalibor Topic wrote: > this mail would go out to kaffe, gcj, classpath, classpathx-discuss, > classpathx-xml, gnu crypto, wonka, aegis, sabl

Re: Undistributable java in main

Hi, On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 11:32, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Jan Schulz wrote: > > * Dalibor Topic wrote: > > > >>* figure out how you want to interpret the GPL in this case. The rest > >>follows from that. > >> > >>>Problems not touched: *execution* of GPL-incompatible code using > >>> GPLed libs an

Re: [PROPOSAL] 3. RfD on new debian java policy

Hi, I am afraid we are not communicating very constructively. We might have to start from scratch since somehow we keep missing each others points. Let me try one last time to point out what I find important facts when deciding how to create a java policy for Debian. On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 20:15,

Re: [PROPOSAL] 3. RfD on new debian java policy

Hi, I am afraid we are not communicating very constructively. We might have to start from scratch since somehow we keep missing each others points. Let me try one last time to point out what I find important facts when deciding how to create a java policy for Debian. On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 20:15,

Re: [PROPOSAL] 3. RfD on new debian java policy

Hi Jan, On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 13:31, Jan Schulz wrote: > Do you have a better name for 'programm, which runs java byte code'? > for me 'java' stands for exactly this and I don't midn if it is > actually called /usr/bin/kaffe or /usr/lib/sunjdk/bin/java I would call it byte code interpreter then.

Re: [PROPOSAL] 3. RfD on new debian java policy

Hi Jan, On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 13:31, Jan Schulz wrote: > Do you have a better name for 'programm, which runs java byte code'? > for me 'java' stands for exactly this and I don't midn if it is > actually called /usr/bin/kaffe or /usr/lib/sunjdk/bin/java I would call it byte code interpreter then.

Re: [PROPOSAL] 3. RfD on new debian java policy

Hi Jan, On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 22:26, Jan Schulz wrote: > The problem in debian is to find out this java. > This should be adressed in this proposal. Why this fixation on this one program name? I know there is a non-free environment called java that is a interpreter, byte code definition, class l

Re: [PROPOSAL] 3. RfD on new debian java policy

Hi Jan, On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 22:26, Jan Schulz wrote: > The problem in debian is to find out this java. > This should be adressed in this proposal. Why this fixation on this one program name? I know there is a non-free environment called java that is a interpreter, byte code definition, class l

Re: [PROPOSAL] 3. RfD on new debian java policy

Hi, On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 19:15, Jan Schulz wrote: > * Mark Wielaard wrote: > >I am one of the GNU Classpath developers but not a Debian developer. > > Thanks for joining anyway :) I am a Debian user though and use it for all my development machines. > >For end-user prog

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

Hi, On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 17:29, Jan Schulz wrote: > * Mark Wielaard wrote: > >gij does come with a normal long-option --classpath. But as the gij help > >output says: "Options can be specified with `-' or `--'." > > --8<-:- snip -:

Re: [PROPOSAL] 3. RfD on new debian java policy

Hi, On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 19:15, Jan Schulz wrote: > * Mark Wielaard wrote: > >I am one of the GNU Classpath developers but not a Debian developer. > > Thanks for joining anyway :) I am a Debian user though and use it for all my development machines. > >For end-user prog

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant

Hi, On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 17:29, Jan Schulz wrote: > * Mark Wielaard wrote: > >gij does come with a normal long-option --classpath. But as the gij help > >output says: "Options can be specified with `-' or `--'." > > --8<-:- snip -:

Re: [PROPOSAL] 3. RfD on new debian java policy

Hi, I am one of the GNU Classpath developers but not a Debian developer. On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 01:47, Jan Schulz wrote: > Chapter 2. Policy > > Packages written in Java are separated in two categories: programs > and libraries. Programs are intended to be run by end-users. > Libraries are intend

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant (was: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath)

Hi, On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 20:21, Jan Schulz wrote: > Ok, I don't actually mind. The only real argument I have is that it > looks better, if you have all requirements defined with comandline > arguments, not environment variables. But ok... neither gij-3.0 nor > gij-wrapper-3.0 have a -classpath op

Re: [PROPOSAL] 3. RfD on new debian java policy

Hi, I am one of the GNU Classpath developers but not a Debian developer. On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 01:47, Jan Schulz wrote: > Chapter 2. Policy > > Packages written in Java are separated in two categories: programs > and libraries. Programs are intended to be run by end-users. > Libraries are intend

Re: JAVA_HOME and ant (was: [PROPOSAL] New Virtual Packages and way to handle Classpath)

Hi, On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 20:21, Jan Schulz wrote: > Ok, I don't actually mind. The only real argument I have is that it > looks better, if you have all requirements defined with comandline > arguments, not environment variables. But ok... neither gij-3.0 nor > gij-wrapper-3.0 have a -classpath op

Running native eclipse on Debian (unstable/x86)

Hi, Someone asked how I got native eclipse running on my Debian box and how to get the JDT (Java Development Tools) and api documentation/code completion tooltips work out of the box. The following only explains how to get the needed binaries installed. For compiling from source you will need a l

Running native eclipse on Debian (unstable/x86)

Hi, Someone asked how I got native eclipse running on my Debian box and how to get the JDT (Java Development Tools) and api documentation/code completion tooltips work out of the box. The following only explains how to get the needed binaries installed. For compiling from source you will need a l

Re: Eclipse and main

Hi, On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 10:39, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > RHUG: http://sources.redhat.com/rhug/ really is cool. The only sad > > thing is that it is all build as RPMs done for RedHat systems. Would > > be really nice to also have real Debian packages of all his stuff. (I > > asked him if

Re: Eclipse and main

Hi, On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 10:39, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > RHUG: http://sources.redhat.com/rhug/ really is cool. The only sad > > thing is that it is all build as RPMs done for RedHat systems. Would > > be really nice to also have real Debian packages of all his stuff. (I > > asked him if

Re: additions to java-policy

Hi, On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 01:50, Ben Burton wrote: > But you are fooling yourself if you claim that simply removing > versioning all together will bring with it stability. The sad fact with > the Java world is that if your package or app uses some Java library, > you have to follow changelogs to

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