Importance of a free jvm

2001-03-15 Thread Alan KF LAU
Hi Alex, I shouldn't have judge your opinion by your experience in Java programming, my apology. As long as you are programming in java we are happy to discuss here. I change the title so as to stop the flame from continuing. > Unless I'm mistaken, changes to the core Java APIs are slowing dow

Importance of a free jvm

2001-03-15 Thread Alan KF LAU
Hi Alex, I shouldn't have judge your opinion by your experience in Java programming, my apology. As long as you are programming in java we are happy to discuss here. I change the title so as to stop the flame from continuing. > Unless I'm mistaken, changes to the core Java APIs are slowing do

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-15 Thread Alan KF LAU
> I assume you mean "doubt" instead of "suspect". Thanks. > "commercial-level" does not mean "in-house, transaction-based". > And of course one can build commercial-level "in-house" transaction-based > without java.security - it just makes some things easier. Your point is? > Let's see: C do

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-15 Thread Alan KF LAU
Alex, do you have reading problem? Do you need me to finger-point what was his argument? First: > > Java programs than me. And I have to admit my lack of competence, too. > > Certainly, you can run Freenet, xt or Cocoon with kaffe. Second: > > > If this were the case, why does GNU seem to > > >

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-15 Thread Alan KF LAU
> I _am_ a Java programmer. Insult me like that again, and I'll give you a > well-deserved line in my .procmailrc. I'm just curious, what _kind_ of java programmer you are? You don't need to test compability among different VMs; you can do without java.security and work with Kaffe happily. You don'

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-15 Thread Alan KF LAU
> This quite misleading. As far as I know, the Microsoft contract > referred to has only funded a very small part of Kaffe. (I have had > contact with Tim Wilkinson and Kaffe since before there was a > Transvirtual, and in fact was involved in some early of funding of > Kaffe, when I worked at Cy

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-15 Thread Alan KF LAU
) Y+>+ PGP t+>++ !5 X-- R>++ tv(+) b+(++) DI(+) D++ > G>+++ e--> h! !r y>+++ > --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- > > On 1 Mar 2001, Per Bothner wrote: > > > Alan KF LAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Just for everybody's inf

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-15 Thread Alan KF LAU
> You are being deliberately provocative. Of course one can build a > serious application without java.security. One can even build a > secure application without it, though java.security gives you better > control. A compiler, a word-processor, an editor, or any single-user > application should

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-15 Thread Alan KF LAU
> I assume you mean "doubt" instead of "suspect". Thanks. > "commercial-level" does not mean "in-house, transaction-based". > And of course one can build commercial-level "in-house" transaction-based > without java.security - it just makes some things easier. Your point is? > Let's see: C d

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-15 Thread Alan KF LAU
Alex, do you have reading problem? Do you need me to finger-point what was his argument? First: > > Java programs than me. And I have to admit my lack of competence, too. > > Certainly, you can run Freenet, xt or Cocoon with kaffe. Second: > > > If this were the case, why does GNU seem to > >

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-15 Thread Alan KF LAU
> I _am_ a Java programmer. Insult me like that again, and I'll give you a > well-deserved line in my .procmailrc. I'm just curious, what _kind_ of java programmer you are? You don't need to test compability among different VMs; you can do without java.security and work with Kaffe happily. You don

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-15 Thread Alan KF LAU
> This quite misleading. As far as I know, the Microsoft contract > referred to has only funded a very small part of Kaffe. (I have had > contact with Tim Wilkinson and Kaffe since before there was a > Transvirtual, and in fact was involved in some early of funding of > Kaffe, when I worked at C

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-15 Thread Alan KF LAU
+>+ PGP t+>++ !5 X-- R>++ tv(+) b+(++) DI(+) D++ > G>+++ e--> h! !r y>+++ > --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- > > On 1 Mar 2001, Per Bothner wrote: > > > Alan KF LAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Just for everybody's informatio

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-15 Thread Alan KF LAU
> You are being deliberately provocative. Of course one can build a > serious application without java.security. One can even build a > secure application without it, though java.security gives you better > control. A compiler, a word-processor, an editor, or any single-user > application shoul

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-11 Thread Alan KF LAU
> > http://www.kaffe.org/cgi-bin/kaffe/security?user=guest;addsignature=1 > > I think the trick is, implementing java.security takes manpower. Kaffe > has only so many developers. They have put their developers into what > they think matters the most at the moment. If you want to help, I bet > the

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-11 Thread Alan KF LAU
> > http://www.kaffe.org/cgi-bin/kaffe/security?user=guest;addsignature=1 > > I think the trick is, implementing java.security takes manpower. Kaffe > has only so many developers. They have put their developers into what > they think matters the most at the moment. If you want to help, I bet > th

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-01 Thread Alan KF LAU
Hi, I hate to see a great people like you leaving. I haven't been reading all other followups yet, so please forgive me if there's any repeated message. > Therefore, I stop maintaining java-common (I will send an official ITO unless > someone steps in really fast) and the proposed Java policy. Th

Re: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-01 Thread Alan KF LAU
Hi, I hate to see a great people like you leaving. I haven't been reading all other followups yet, so please forgive me if there's any repeated message. > Therefore, I stop maintaining java-common (I will send an official ITO unless >someone steps in really fast) and the proposed Java policy. Th

Re: How to install jdk 1.3

2000-10-31 Thread Alan KF LAU
gt; Lau, your emails would be easier to read if you wrapped at 72 characters > or so. > > * Alan KF LAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001031 19:45]: > > How may I install the jdk1.3 in Debian without deb packages? Is there any > > symbolic links and library I should place in righ

How to install jdk 1.3

2000-10-31 Thread Alan KF LAU
Please bear with me with this simple question which shouldn't be raised in an expert mailing list. I'd appreciate if you'd give me just a pointer. I have successfully installed jdk1.1, ibmjdk1.1.8. simply because they've .deb file. Recently I'm asked to upgrade to jdk1.3. How may I install the

Re: How to install jdk 1.3

2000-10-31 Thread Alan KF LAU
gt; > Lau, your emails would be easier to read if you wrapped at 72 characters > or so. > > * Alan KF LAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001031 19:45]: > > How may I install the jdk1.3 in Debian without deb packages? Is there any symbolic >links and library I should place in right pl

How to install jdk 1.3

2000-10-31 Thread Alan KF LAU
Please bear with me with this simple question which shouldn't be raised in an expert mailing list. I'd appreciate if you'd give me just a pointer. I have successfully installed jdk1.1, ibmjdk1.1.8. simply because they've .deb file. Recently I'm asked to upgrade to jdk1.3. How may I install the

License issue with J2EE

2000-10-04 Thread Alan KF LAU
Is there any licensing issue with the deployment of J2EE? I know it's free for client(JVM provided with browsers). However, should I pay for the license if I am going to develop enterprise component in my Linux server? Thanks. Alan.

License issue with J2EE

2000-10-04 Thread Alan KF LAU
Is there any licensing issue with the deployment of J2EE? I know it's free for client(JVM provided with browsers). However, should I pay for the license if I am going to develop enterprise component in my Linux server? Thanks. Alan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

JSP server

2000-10-03 Thread Alan KF LAU
Thank you for the recommendation. However, my company wouldn't be interested in GNU product. Is there any good commercial product that support JSP? thanks

JSP server

2000-10-03 Thread Alan KF LAU
Thank you for the recommendation. However, my company wouldn't be interested in GNU product. Is there any good commercial product that support JSP? thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

JSP

2000-10-02 Thread Alan KF LAU
What do I need to install in order to have JSP enabled in my apache server? There is Jserv mod for Apache but I guess that isn't enough? Please kindly advise.

JSP

2000-10-02 Thread Alan KF LAU
What do I need to install in order to have JSP enabled in my apache server? There is Jserv mod for Apache but I guess that isn't enough? Please kindly advise. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]