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On 2011-02-09 00:17, Damien Raude-Morvan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> [...]
> My other goals are :
> - improve relationship with Debian Science (as they use more and more Java
> software)
> [...]
> - work on Maven 3.x and integration with dh 7/8
That sounds g
On 02/09/2011 05:26 AM, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
>
> On Feb 9, 2011, at 11:55 AM, James Page wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Appreciate that I have been *absolutely* silent on this mailing list
>> since I joined but I would like to get more involved in Java packaging
>> for Debian and have a few opinions on
Hi Thomas,
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Thomas Koch wrote:
> I plan to participate in the summer of code, but definitely as a student.
are you interested in implementing the Maven stuff as a student?
Cheers,
Torsten
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Sylvestre Ledru:
> Le mercredi 09 février 2011 à 18:02 +0100, Thomas Koch a écrit :
> I like the idea of addressing this issue through a GSOC.
> Are you willing to be a mentor for this project ?
Hi Sylvestre,
I plan to participate in the summer of code, but definitely as a student. And
there are
Le mercredi 09 février 2011 à 18:02 +0100, Thomas Koch a écrit :
> Hi,
>
[...]
>
> Do you think this would make sense? Is so, we could make this a project idea
> for the Google Summer of Code.
I like the idea of addressing this issue through a GSOC.
Are you willing to be a mentor for this projec
Hi,
as we've just seen in another thread[1], it's a very hard problem to get java
stuff into Debian. My naive idea how things could, if ever, get better, is:
- It should become standard, that every jar available on maven[2] should be
accompanied by a source code package that allows automatic re
Am 09.02.2011 16:43, schrieb Sylvestre Ledru:
> If the upstream of a library is regularly breaking the ABI (which is not
> uncommon), I will add a check in the build system to make sure that I
> will find the exact version of the upstream library I am using (it does
> help also other distributions)
Bonjour Stéphane,
Le mercredi 09 février 2011 à 16:36 +0100, Stefane Fermigier a écrit :
> On Feb 9, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Vincent Fourmond wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Torsten Werner wrote:
> >> Am 09.02.2011 15:24, schrieb Vincent Fourmond:
> >>> The FTPmaster will *never* accept
On Feb 9, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Vincent Fourmond wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Torsten Werner wrote:
>> Am 09.02.2011 15:24, schrieb Vincent Fourmond:
>>> The FTPmaster will *never* accept sourceless JARs.
>>
>> we don't accept them into Debian's main component. However they are
>> acc
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Torsten Werner wrote:
> Am 09.02.2011 15:51, schrieb Stefane Fermigier:
>> Can we start this discussion over with this option in mind ?
>
> There is another option that we should discuss:
>
> - distribute all those binary dependencies in a separate package, e.g.
> n
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Torsten Werner wrote:
> Am 09.02.2011 15:24, schrieb Vincent Fourmond:
>> The FTPmaster will *never* accept sourceless JARs.
>
> we don't accept them into Debian's main component. However they are
> acceptable for the non-free component as long as it is allowed to
Am 09.02.2011 15:51, schrieb Stefane Fermigier:
> Can we start this discussion over with this option in mind ?
There is another option that we should discuss:
- distribute all those binary dependencies in a separate package, e.g.
nuxeo-nonfree-libs via alioth.d.o or some other inofficial server
Thanks, Torsten, this is great news !
Can we start this discussion over with this option in mind ?
S.
On Feb 9, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Torsten Werner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 09.02.2011 15:24, schrieb Vincent Fourmond:
>> The FTPmaster will *never* accept sourceless JARs.
>
> we don't accept them in
Hi,
Am 09.02.2011 15:24, schrieb Vincent Fourmond:
> The FTPmaster will *never* accept sourceless JARs.
we don't accept them into Debian's main component. However they are
acceptable for the non-free component as long as it is allowed to
redistribute them in binary form.
Cheers,
Torsten
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On Feb 9, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Vincent Fourmond wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
>>> What is not true? The fact that packaging things in Debian is difficult
>>> or the fact that it's so because it requires some added value?
>>
>> No, the fact that it
On 09/02/2011 14:50, Scott Howard wrote:
>> BTW, here's what geogebra's download page
>> (http://www.geogebra.org/cms/en/download) says: "You are free to
>> copy, distribute and transmit GeoGebra for non-commercial
>> purposes".
>>
>> Isn't this a flagrant violation of the DFSG (Item 6, "No
>> Dis
Hello,
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
>> What is not true? The fact that packaging things in Debian is difficult
>> or the fact that it's so because it requires some added value?
>
> No, the fact that it *only* requires "some" added value.
>
> You are requiring *much
This is an interesting problem, there are great open source Java
projects out there that, but no fault of their own, are using
libraries from a repo that Debian can't access (no copyright notice
and no license makes it a non-starter). Add the library versioning/API
breakage potential on top of that
On Feb 9, 2011, at 11:55 AM, James Page wrote:
> Hi
>
> Appreciate that I have been *absolutely* silent on this mailing list
> since I joined but I would like to get more involved in Java packaging
> for Debian and have a few opinions on some of this thread.
>
> On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 17:07 +010
Hi,
Am 09.02.2011 00:17, schrieb Damien Raude-Morvan:
> I've some overlap with your own goals Torsten :)
that's good. You can take my tasks. :)
> kibi, tuco and I tried and, AFAIK, we all failed.
> Have you started working on this ? from upstream "bsd-port" mercurial forest ?
I've started with
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 00:17 +0100, Damien Raude-Morvan wrote:
> - package some CI (Continuous Integration) tools like Nexus, Hudson,
> Sonar and
> some essentials plugins
Hi Damien
I've been working on packaging Hudson/Jenkins for Ubuntu since UDS-N in
October (see [0] for the associated bluepr
On Feb 9, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Giovanni Mascellani wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On 09/02/2011 10:06, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
>>> I'd say that this one of the main added value of a distribution:
>>> many different pieces of software harmonized together, under a
>>> consistent policy so that people that want t
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:55 AM, James Page wrote:
> Appreciate that I have been *absolutely* silent on this mailing list
> since I joined but I would like to get more involved in Java packaging
> for Debian and have a few opinions on some of this thread.
>
> On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 17:07 +0100, Tor
Giovanni Mascellani, le Wed 09 Feb 2011 08:42:20 +0100, a écrit :
> On 09/02/2011 02:11, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Giovanni Mascellani, le Tue 08 Feb 2011 14:48:31 +0100, a écrit :
> >> libisorelax-java doesn't ship any .pom file. Please apply the attached
> >> patch to have one and ease compilati
Hi
Appreciate that I have been *absolutely* silent on this mailing list
since I joined but I would like to get more involved in Java packaging
for Debian and have a few opinions on some of this thread.
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 17:07 +0100, Torsten Werner wrote:
> - Ship more pom files.
+1 on this f
Hi.
On 09/02/2011 10:06, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
>> I'd say that this one of the main added value of a distribution:
>> many different pieces of software harmonized together, under a
>> consistent policy so that people that want to change something in
>> the source code and recompile just have to
On Feb 9, 2011, at 8:40 AM, Giovanni Mascellani wrote:
> On 09/02/2011 06:12, tony mancill wrote:
>>> etc. So it seems either that nobody cares about getting these fine
>>> (and popular) applications into Debian, or it's just too hard to do
>>> given the current set of policies.
>>
>> I think th
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