Re: How do you handle overlapping jar-packages?

2008-06-30 Thread Florian Grandel
Hi Ralf, Creating different JAR contents than upstream only leads to user irritation. Disk space is relativly cheap today so that should not be an issue. I also think that disk space is not the main issue. When I asked my question I was more thinking about maintainability (jars with the same

Re: How do you handle overlapping jar-packages?

2008-06-30 Thread Michael Koch
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 07:04:00PM +0200, RalfGesellensetter wrote: > Am Montag 30 Juni 2008 schrieb Florian Grandel: > > Thank you very much for your opinion. That's what I was thinking as > > well and how I started doing it now. > > Hi Florian, hi Michael, > > sounds sound to me - but: > Inters

Re: How do you handle overlapping jar-packages?

2008-06-30 Thread RalfGesellensetter
Am Montag 30 Juni 2008 schrieb Florian Grandel: > Thank you very much for your opinion. That's what I was thinking as > well and how I started doing it now. Hi Florian, hi Michael, sounds sound to me - but: Intersection also implies waste of space. In cases where the overlapping base classes ext

Re: Developing with Java on Debian

2008-06-30 Thread Florian Grandel
Hi Matthew, Matthew Johnson schrieb: Ah, hmm, I think it only looks in /usr/share/java, since this was a tool for Debian, and thats where all our jars are stored. I forgot to mention that I modified your script to look into "my" directory. This is a very simple modification and makes your scr

Re: Developing with Java on Debian

2008-06-30 Thread Florian Grandel
Hi Matthew, Matthew Johnson schrieb: It's unclear to me what they want to be configured at runtime by changing the classpath. I'll ask them and report back. Wrapper scripts without classpath manifest items also result in large classpaths containing items you shouldn't have to know about (you

Re: Developing with Java on Debian

2008-06-30 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Mon Jun 30 10:01, Florian Grandel wrote: > Hi Java developers, > >> One problem that I haven't solved so far is how to get the classpath >> into the MANIFEST file as was proposed earlier in this thread. > > As you may have remarked from my earlier posts I am working with the > JPackage guys rec

Re: Developing with Java on Debian

2008-06-30 Thread Florian Grandel
Hi Java developers, One problem that I haven't solved so far is how to get the classpath into the MANIFEST file as was proposed earlier in this thread. As you may have remarked from my earlier posts I am working with the JPackage guys recently. Their "recommendation to Java developers" argum

Re: How do you handle overlapping jar-packages?

2008-06-30 Thread Florian Grandel
Hi Michael, Michael Koch schrieb: I would do it as upstream does it. This doesnt confuse users as that is what they know from upstream. We had enough problems when our jars were too mich different from upstream in the past. Thank you very much for your opinion. That's what I was thinking as we

Re: Developing with Java on Debian

2008-06-30 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Sun Jun 29 23:25, Richard Cole wrote: > > I'd be pleased if you (the collective of debian java packagers) would > look over what I've done and provide comments, hints and suggestions. Well, some general observations just looking at the packaging. There is a built jar in the source, which isn't