Re: Location of API docs

2007-01-12 Thread Matthias Klose
Mark Wielaard writes: > Hi Matthias, > > On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 21:11 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > The idea was to make the -doc packages depend on other -doc packages > > so that references to other packages can be resolved; unfortunately > > gjdoc doesn't support that yet. > > What would you

Re: Changing policy for the Maintainer field

2007-01-12 Thread Marcus Better
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: >> *Also because it would make the danger of bit-rot visible. > > English problem here, I don't understand this sentence :'( I mean that there will be a visible difference between these cases: (a) A package that has gone a long time without activity because it works well, an

Re: Changing policy for the Maintainer field

2007-01-12 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On 1/12/07, Marcus Better <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > As you mentionned, a lot of packages does not need a lot of attention. > Why do you want to orphan a package that could be just here because a > lot of people use it and it does not need upload! *Because at a certain po

Re: Debian Java checkstyle package.

2007-01-12 Thread Michael Koch
On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 12:54:22PM +0100, Marcus Better wrote: > Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > > On 1/12/07, Marcus Better <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Michael Koch wrote: > >> > Please just add yourself. Wolfgang is MIA currently but thats not yet a > >> > reason to remove them. > >> > >> What _is

Re: Debian Java checkstyle package.

2007-01-12 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On 1/12/07, Marcus Better <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Arnaud Vandyck wrote: [...] > I just can tell he sent me a mail less then two month > ago: he is ok but has no time to dedicate to Debian > at the moment. I'm glad to hear that. Do you know if he would mind to be removed from Uploaders? He d

Re: Changing policy for the Maintainer field

2007-01-12 Thread Paul Cager
>> Stefan hasn't retired. > > I take his statement to mean that he has stopped maintaining those > packages, > and no longer wishes to be a co-maintainer. > >> but just does not have the time at the moment. When I was preparing a new upload of BCEL I asked Stefan if he would like me to remove his

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Re: Location of API docs

2007-01-12 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi Matthias, On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 21:11 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > The idea was to make the -doc packages depend on other -doc packages > so that references to other packages can be resolved; unfortunately > gjdoc doesn't support that yet. What would you need from gjdoc to support 'that'? Co

Re: Changing policy for the Maintainer field

2007-01-12 Thread Marcus Better
Eric Lavarde - Debian wrote: > 1. you say twice in your email that Debian has a Java quality issue. Can > you please be more specific, I don't understand which issue(s) you're > aiming at? One more thing: Don't get me wrong, there are many parts of the Java effort that are very well maintained, su

Re: Location of API docs

2007-01-12 Thread Eric Lavarde - Debian
Hi, Marcus Better said: > Matthias Klose wrote: >>> How come? I thought we put api docs in the -doc package, if there is >>> one. > >> exactly, but into the /usr/share/doc/$package/api directory, not into >> the /usr/share/doc/$package-doc/api directory. > [...] > Is it really better to put the do

Re: Changing policy for the Maintainer field

2007-01-12 Thread Marcus Better
Eric Lavarde - Debian wrote: > 1. you say twice in your email that Debian has a Java quality issue. Can > you please be more specific, Yes, I can give examples, but not until next week though. It has to do with bugs, even important ones, not getting attention. For a quick idea, look at the history

Re: Changing policy for the Maintainer field

2007-01-12 Thread Eric Lavarde - Debian
Hi Marcus, I'd like to raise three things: 1. you say twice in your email that Debian has a Java quality issue. Can you please be more specific, I don't understand which issue(s) you're aiming at? 2. perhaps a step to make those issues visible and more easily "addressable" by the "pkg-java" team

Re: Will eclipse be part of etch?

2007-01-12 Thread Michael Koch
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 09:58:46PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > Steve Langasek writes: > > On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 02:16:54AM -0800, Peter Ronnquist wrote: > > > It seems like eclipse will not be part of the etch release. Is this > > > a mistake? > > > > No, it is not; it's a direct consequence

Re: Debian Java checkstyle package.

2007-01-12 Thread Marcus Better
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > On 1/12/07, Marcus Better <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Michael Koch wrote: >> > Please just add yourself. Wolfgang is MIA currently but thats not yet a >> > reason to remove them. >> >> What _is_ a reason to remove someone? A package maintained by a MIA would >> normally b

Re: Changing policy for the Maintainer field

2007-01-12 Thread Marcus Better
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > As you mentionned, a lot of packages does not need a lot of attention. > Why do you want to orphan a package that could be just here because a > lot of people use it and it does not need upload! *Because at a certain point it will need attention, perhaps urgently, and then

Re: Location of API docs

2007-01-12 Thread Marcus Better
Matthias Klose wrote: >> How come? I thought we put api docs in the -doc package, if there is >> one. > exactly, but into the /usr/share/doc/$package/api directory, not into > the /usr/share/doc/$package-doc/api directory. Oh, I wasn't aware of that. I've been doing it the other way around. But i

Re: Debian Java checkstyle package.

2007-01-12 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On 1/12/07, Marcus Better <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Koch wrote: > Please just add yourself. Wolfgang is MIA currently but thats not yet a > reason to remove them. What _is_ a reason to remove someone? A package maintained by a MIA would normally be orphaned. It's easy enough to add the

Re: Changing policy for the Maintainer field

2007-01-12 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On 1/9/07, Marcus Better <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stefan Gybas wrote: >> The Maintainer has ultimate responsibility for the package, > What if this person becomes MIA? One of the Uploaders will notice and take over the package and replace the Maintainer, which would be an improvement over the

Re: checkstyle Java library - binary package name

2007-01-12 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On 1/11/07, Michael Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 06:51:08PM -, Paul Cager wrote: > Regarding the packaging of the new upstream version of checkstyle. As it > is a library, should I rename the binary package to libcheckstyle-java, or > would this cause far too many p

Re: Location of API docs

2007-01-12 Thread Matthias Klose
Marcus Better writes: > Matthias Klose wrote: > >> which seems more sensible to me. Should I change it to > >> /usr/share/doc/$package/api? I assume I should also create a doc-base. > > > where $package is the name of the library package, not the name of the > > doc package (if there exists an ext

Re: Request to join Debian Java Packaging Project

2007-01-12 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On 1/7/07, Paul Cager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Hi, Please can I apply to join the Java Packaging Project. I've opened an account on alioth ("paulcager-guest"), and I'm subscribed to pkg-java-maintainers and debian-java. Welcome to the project, many thanks for your help, -- Arnaud Van

Re: Debian Java checkstyle package.

2007-01-12 Thread Marcus Better
Michael Koch wrote: > Please just add yourself. Wolfgang is MIA currently but thats not yet a > reason to remove them. What _is_ a reason to remove someone? A package maintained by a MIA would normally be orphaned. It's easy enough to add the person back when (s)he starts working again. In the sp

Re: Location of API docs

2007-01-12 Thread Marcus Better
Matthias Klose wrote: >> which seems more sensible to me. Should I change it to >> /usr/share/doc/$package/api? I assume I should also create a doc-base. > where $package is the name of the library package, not the name of the > doc package (if there exists an extra -doc package). How come? I tho