debian-powerpc: how do I run a java app

2001-11-13 Thread Brendan J Simon
I'm trying to run a java app. How do install and use java ? It looks like there are different java runtime environemnts I can use (eg. kaffe, gcj, etc). I don't anything about them or how to use them. Which is the best and easiest to use with Debian ? ie. what can I "apt-get install" and ge

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Per Bothner
Adam Heath wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Max Kellermann wrote: Is it planned to support natively compiled .JAR classes which can be loaded using custom (pure Java) ClassLoader instances? gcj supports loading precompiled .class files. gcj supports loading precompiled .jar(and all other variant) files

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Max Kellermann wrote: > Is it planned to support natively compiled .JAR classes which can be loaded > using custom (pure Java) ClassLoader instances? gcj supports loading precompiled .class files. gcj supports loading precompiled .jar(and all other variant) files. gcj suppor

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Max Kellermann wrote: > On 0, Per Bothner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The most glaring missing feature in gcj is AWT. If you're > > running server-style or other non-GUI application, I suggest > > you try it. See htpp://gcc.gnu.org/java/ > > > Has anybody tried running

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Per Bothner
Adam Heath wrote: >On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Max Kellermann wrote: > >>Is it planned to support natively compiled .JAR classes which can be loaded using >custom (pure Java) ClassLoader instances? >> > >gcj supports loading precompiled .class files. >gcj supports loading precompiled .jar(and all other

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Max Kellermann wrote: > Is it planned to support natively compiled .JAR classes which can be loaded using >custom (pure Java) ClassLoader instances? gcj supports loading precompiled .class files. gcj supports loading precompiled .jar(and all other variant) files. gcj suppor

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Max Kellermann wrote: > On 0, Per Bothner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The most glaring missing feature in gcj is AWT. If you're > > running server-style or other non-GUI application, I suggest > > you try it. See htpp://gcc.gnu.org/java/ > > > Has anybody tried running

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Max" == Max Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Max> So if libgcj interprets the bytecode of dynamically loaded Max> classes (or even whole applications like it is the case in Max> Tomcat), this means that they do not run at native speed. They Max> run at the speed of libgcj's integrated

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Max" == Max Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Max> I'm really looking forward to the gcj version that's stable and Max> mature enough for everything.. cool project IMHO. When you say `everything', what do you mean? Java changes constantly. No free software implementation will ever ke

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Max" == Max Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Max> So if libgcj interprets the bytecode of dynamically loaded Max> classes (or even whole applications like it is the case in Max> Tomcat), this means that they do not run at native speed. They Max> run at the speed of libgcj's integrate

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Max" == Max Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Max> I'm really looking forward to the gcj version that's stable and Max> mature enough for everything.. cool project IMHO. When you say `everything', what do you mean? Java changes constantly. No free software implementation will ever k

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Alexandre Petit-Bianco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RHUG's jython relies on that feature to work: jython spits bytecode > out of Python files and then interprets them. It is our intent to > insert an optional compilation stage. libgcj could then load a shared > object instead of a bytecode f

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Max" == Max Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Max> Does gcj support loading new .JAR files dynamically at run-time > Max> like with its .WAR files at all (i.e. creating custom ClassLoader > Max> implementations)? I can hardly imagine h

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Alexandre Petit-Bianco
Tom Tromey writes: > libgcj includes a bytecode interpreter. I'm always amazed that > people don't know that. It has been in the code for over 2 years > now. RHUG's jython relies on that feature to work: jython spits bytecode out of Python files and then interprets them. It is our intent to in

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Max" == Max Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Max> Does gcj support loading new .JAR files dynamically at run-time Max> like with its .WAR files at all (i.e. creating custom ClassLoader Max> implementations)? I can hardly imagine how it implements that libgcj includes a bytecode inter

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Alexandre Petit-Bianco
Max Kellermann writes: > Has anybody tried running Tomcat with gcj? Tomcat should be THE Java > server.. if anything should be supported, then Tomcat. The person who imported it in the RHUG project (sources.redhat.com/rhug) says that the servlet are working fine but JSP doesn't work yet. Feel f

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Alexandre Petit-Bianco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RHUG's jython relies on that feature to work: jython spits bytecode > out of Python files and then interprets them. It is our intent to > insert an optional compilation stage. libgcj could then load a shared > object instead of a bytecode

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Max" == Max Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Max> Does gcj support loading new .JAR files dynamically at run-time > Max> like with its .WAR files at all (i.e. creating custom ClassLoader > Max> implementations)? I can hardly imagine

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Alexandre Petit-Bianco
Tom Tromey writes: > libgcj includes a bytecode interpreter. I'm always amazed that > people don't know that. It has been in the code for over 2 years > now. RHUG's jython relies on that feature to work: jython spits bytecode out of Python files and then interprets them. It is our intent to i

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Max" == Max Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Max> Does gcj support loading new .JAR files dynamically at run-time Max> like with its .WAR files at all (i.e. creating custom ClassLoader Max> implementations)? I can hardly imagine how it implements that libgcj includes a bytecode inte

Architecture question

2001-11-13 Thread Ben Burton
Hi. Packages libeditline-java and libreadline-java won't build on ia64/m68k which AFAICT have no java complier at all in main. I can't make them architecture: all since they contain compiled JNI modules. Thus the build-depends can't be satisfied on these architectures. Does this mean I need

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Alexandre Petit-Bianco
Max Kellermann writes: > Has anybody tried running Tomcat with gcj? Tomcat should be THE Java > server.. if anything should be supported, then Tomcat. The person who imported it in the RHUG project (sources.redhat.com/rhug) says that the servlet are working fine but JSP doesn't work yet. Feel

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Architecture question

2001-11-13 Thread Ben Burton
Hi. Packages libeditline-java and libreadline-java won't build on ia64/m68k which AFAICT have no java complier at all in main. I can't make them architecture: all since they contain compiled JNI modules. Thus the build-depends can't be satisfied on these architectures. Does this mean I nee

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Per Bothner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The most glaring missing feature in gcj is AWT. If you're > running server-style or other non-GUI application, I suggest > you try it. See htpp://gcc.gnu.org/java/ Has anybody tried running Tomcat with gcj? Tomcat should be THE Java server.. if

Re: New on the list - java on debian?

2001-11-13 Thread Max Kellermann
On 0, Per Bothner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The most glaring missing feature in gcj is AWT. If you're > running server-style or other non-GUI application, I suggest > you try it. See htpp://gcc.gnu.org/java/ Has anybody tried running Tomcat with gcj? Tomcat should be THE Java server.. if