On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:04:46AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:03:50AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote:
> > > There have been quite lot of discussion about the classpaths...
> >
> > :)
> >
> > The only good classpath is a dea.. clean one.
>
> Just curious what does dea stan
> > Well the java policy says that all java programs must have a startup
> > script.
>
> 'java' is a program too, though, isn't it?
Nope :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6:14pm ~ >cat `which java` | head
#!/bin/sh
#
# $Id: java_wrapper_linux.sh,v 1.7 2001/06/22 21:09:44 kreilede Exp $
#
#
# @(#)java_wrappe
This should have gone to the list..
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Joe Emenaker wrote:
I'm not really an advocate of the symlinking idea, but am I the only one
that thinks that this mani
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:21:15AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:59:09AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:15:04PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote:
[..]
> > Symlinking jars can be dangerous, because jars can contain a Class-path:
> > line in their manifest
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:04:46AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:03:50AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote:
> > > There have been quite lot of discussion about the classpaths...
> >
> > :)
> >
> > The only good classpath is a dea.. clean one.
>
> Just curious what does dea sta
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:23:35PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:08:03PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
> > I think there's got to be some kind of default classpath, even if it can
> > be overridden, otherwise programs without a startup script require the
> > user to set an e
> > Well the java policy says that all java programs must have a startup
> > script.
>
> 'java' is a program too, though, isn't it?
Nope :
[rhelmer@here] 6:14pm ~ >cat `which java` | head
#!/bin/sh
#
# $Id: java_wrapper_linux.sh,v 1.7 2001/06/22 21:09:44 kreilede Exp $
#
#
# @(#)java_wrapper_
This should have gone to the list..
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Joe Emenaker wrote:
> I'm not really an advocate of the symlinking idea, but am I the only one
> that thinks that this manifesat cl
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:21:15AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:59:09AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:15:04PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote:
[..]
> > Symlinking jars can be dangerous, because jars can contain a Class-path:
> > line in their manifes
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:08:03PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:03:50AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:44:00PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> > > To discuss:
> > > ---
> > >
> > > * Should we allow library packages to provide different ve
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:44:30AM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote:
> Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Another point about lib/ext. The JVM treats all jars in lib/ext as
> > > priveleged, like java.lang.*.
> > >
> > > "By default, installed extensions are granted all security permissions
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Gratton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Joe Emenaker wrote:
>
> > What if someone releases two jars and foo.jar's manifest makes reference
to
> > "../../../../../../../../bar.jar"? Am I faced with either putting
bar.jar in
> > my root dir or not using the package
Note that there are known issues with the mozilla plug-in this release.
These packages also use the new java2-compiler & java2-runtime
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Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:57:55 -0700
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> "Ben" == Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ben> I'm not sure. Any word from the j2se1.3 maintainer(s) on
Ben> this?
Off the top of my head I don't think the JVM itselfinerface has
changed significantly, i.e. the byte codes themselves. The rest of
the Java runtime has changed e
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:03:50AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:44:00PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> > To discuss:
> > ---
> >
> > * Should we allow library packages to provide different versions?
> > Like libxalan2 that provides both xalan1 and xalan2 jars.
>
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:08:03PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:03:50AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:44:00PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> > > To discuss:
> > > ---
> > >
> > > * Should we allow library packages to provide different v
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:44:30AM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote:
> Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Another point about lib/ext. The JVM treats all jars in lib/ext as
> > > priveleged, like java.lang.*.
> > >
> > > "By default, installed extensions are granted all security permission
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Gratton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Joe Emenaker wrote:
>
> > What if someone releases two jars and foo.jar's manifest makes reference
to
> > "../../../../../../../../bar.jar"? Am I faced with either putting
bar.jar in
> > my root dir or not using the packag
Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Where does $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/ext point to /usr/share/java? I have
> installed every JVM available for debian (I believe) and only j2sdk1.3
> comes with .../lib/ext, and that is a real directory that doesn't seem to
> point to /usr/share/java at all. I'm n
Note that there are known issues with the mozilla plug-in this release.
These packages also use the new java2-compiler & java2-runtime
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:57:55 -0700
Source: j2se1.3-powerpc
Binary: j2re1.3 j2sdk1.3-src j2sdk1.3-demo j2sdk1.3
> "Ben" == Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ben> I'm not sure. Any word from the j2se1.3 maintainer(s) on
Ben> this?
Off the top of my head I don't think the JVM itselfinerface has
changed significantly, i.e. the byte codes themselves. The rest of
the Java runtime has changed
Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Another point about lib/ext. The JVM treats all jars in lib/ext as
> > priveleged, like java.lang.*.
> >
> > "By default, installed extensions are granted all security permissions
> > as if they were part of the core platform API"
> >
> >-- ht
> > > Well. I have to ask one thing (before adding such things to the
> > > policy). Have the virtual machine changed (in any strange way) or
> > > is it just the runtime environment that really have changed. I skip
> > > all performance parts and just focus on compatibility.
> >
> > Not quite sur
Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Where does $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/ext point to /usr/share/java? I have
> installed every JVM available for debian (I believe) and only j2sdk1.3
> comes with .../lib/ext, and that is a real directory that doesn't seem to
> point to /usr/share/java at all. I'm
Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Another point about lib/ext. The JVM treats all jars in lib/ext as
> > priveleged, like java.lang.*.
> >
> > "By default, installed extensions are granted all security permissions
> > as if they were part of the core platform API"
> >
> >-- h
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 09:22, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:59:10PM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote:
> > The following just entered .../Incoming.
>
> Great! Good work guys!
I cannot agree more!
Egon
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:33:59PM +0200, Egon Willighagen wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:44, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> > Like, CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$INTERNALCLASSPATH before running
> > the real jvm.
>
> I'm not really in favor of a system wide classpath; i prefer the current
> system
> "Stephen" == Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Stephen> The following just entered .../Incoming.
And of course there's already a bug in the packaging. I'll be
overwriting the packages in .../Incoming today prior to the
ftp-masters getting around to installing it (which will tak
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 08:40:36AM -0500, Ben Burton wrote:
>
> > > What are we doing about the java2 dependency issue? There was a long
> > > thread about this recently and (I believe) general consensus was that
> > > there should be:
> > >
> > > Provides: java2-virtual-machine (or java2-runtime
> > What are we doing about the java2 dependency issue? There was a long
> > thread about this recently and (I believe) general consensus was that
> > there should be:
> >
> > Provides: java2-virtual-machine (or java2-runtime?)
> > Provides: java2-compiler
>
> Well. I have to ask one thing (befor
On Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:44, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> Like, CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$INTERNALCLASSPATH before running
> the real jvm.
I'm not really in favor of a system wide classpath; i prefer the current
system where /usr/bin/program deals with this...
But if the majority prefers it
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 09:22, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:59:10PM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote:
> > The following just entered .../Incoming.
>
> Great! Good work guys!
I cannot agree more!
Egon
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 03:33:59PM +0200, Egon Willighagen wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:44, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> > Like, CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$INTERNALCLASSPATH before running
> > the real jvm.
>
> I'm not really in favor of a system wide classpath; i prefer the current
> system
> "Stephen" == Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Stephen> The following just entered .../Incoming.
And of course there's already a bug in the packaging. I'll be
overwriting the packages in .../Incoming today prior to the
ftp-masters getting around to installing it (which will ta
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 08:40:36AM -0500, Ben Burton wrote:
>
> > > What are we doing about the java2 dependency issue? There was a long
> > > thread about this recently and (I believe) general consensus was that
> > > there should be:
> > >
> > > Provides: java2-virtual-machine (or java2-runtim
> > What are we doing about the java2 dependency issue? There was a long
> > thread about this recently and (I believe) general consensus was that
> > there should be:
> >
> > Provides: java2-virtual-machine (or java2-runtime?)
> > Provides: java2-compiler
>
> Well. I have to ask one thing (befo
On Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:44, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> Like, CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$INTERNALCLASSPATH before running
> the real jvm.
I'm not really in favor of a system wide classpath; i prefer the current
system where /usr/bin/program deals with this...
But if the majority prefers it
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:59:10PM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote:
> The following just entered .../Incoming.
I have uploaded a fixed Tomcat package to unstable that works with the
new JAVA_HOME. It also builds using the new j2sdk1.3 packages. I will
update my other Java package within the next few
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:59:09AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:15:04PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote:
> > Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > /usr/share/java/foo-version.jar
> > > /usr/share/java/foo.jar -> foo-version.jar
> >
> > Tread carefully. This could have u
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:59:10PM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote:
>
> The following just entered .../Incoming.
Great! Good work guys!
Regards,
// Ola
> I'd like to thank Matthias Klose for all his work. He is largely
> responsible for the existence of these packages.
>
> There will be sparc an
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:03:50AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote:
> > There have been quite lot of discussion about the classpaths...
>
> :)
>
> The only good classpath is a dea.. clean one.
Just curious what does dea stand for? :)
>
> > There are a couple of things that I have found that people thi
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:59:10PM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote:
> The following just entered .../Incoming.
I have uploaded a fixed Tomcat package to unstable that works with the
new JAVA_HOME. It also builds using the new j2sdk1.3 packages. I will
update my other Java package within the next few
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:15:13PM -0500, Ben Burton wrote:
>
> Hi. I checked out the j2se1.3 packages and they look great;
> good work on finally getting them in debian proper. :)
>
> I do have one question, and you're going to hate me for it but I'm going
> to ask it anyway.
>
> What are we d
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:59:09AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:15:04PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote:
> > Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > /usr/share/java/foo-version.jar
> > > /usr/share/java/foo.jar -> foo-version.jar
> >
> > Tread carefully. This could have
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:59:10PM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote:
>
> The following just entered .../Incoming.
Great! Good work guys!
Regards,
// Ola
> I'd like to thank Matthias Klose for all his work. He is largely
> responsible for the existence of these packages.
>
> There will be sparc a
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:03:50AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote:
> > There have been quite lot of discussion about the classpaths...
>
> :)
>
> The only good classpath is a dea.. clean one.
Just curious what does dea stand for? :)
>
> > There are a couple of things that I have found that people th
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:15:13PM -0500, Ben Burton wrote:
>
> Hi. I checked out the j2se1.3 packages and they look great;
> good work on finally getting them in debian proper. :)
>
> I do have one question, and you're going to hate me for it but I'm going
> to ask it anyway.
>
> What are we
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