On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:08:03PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:03:50AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:44:00PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > > > To discuss: > > > ----------- > > > > > > * Should we allow library packages to provide different versions? > > > Like libxalan2 that provides both xalan1 and xalan2 jars. > > > * Should there be a script that automaticly fixes the symbolic > > > links in the /usr/share/java directory. > > > * Must programs also place their files in /usr/share/java. > > > > I'd have thought program-specific jars are by definition, not shared, > > and therefore do not belong on /usr/share? > > /usr/share is for files that can be shared among machines (of different > architectures), not necessarily for files that can be shared among > programs. > > I can imagine some packagers preferring to put .jar files that only they > care about into /usr/share/<package> rather than /usr/share/java, > though, to keep the namespace clean.
That is true. So it should say should and not must. :) > > > Default classpath: > > > ------------------ > > > > > > * This discusses the default classpath, except the classpath that > > > are needed by the jvm. Should there be any such thing? > > > > Or rather, *can* any such thing exist without: > > > > - breaking non-packaged programs which assume a clean classpath. > > - upsetting a lot of developers who like to make a clean-classpath > > assumption. I think most Apache coders fall into this category, > > because most (all?) Apache projects ignore the classpath, and use an > > Ant properties file to find jars. Perhaps other Apache people <waves > > to Marcus Crafter> can confirm/deny this. > > I think there's got to be some kind of default classpath, even if it can > be overridden, otherwise programs without a startup script require the > user to set an environment variable before they can be used (see Debian > policy 10.9: "A program must not depend on environment variables to get > reasonable defaults"). Well the java policy says that all java programs must have a startup script. Regards, // Ola > -- > Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- --------------------- Ola Lundqvist --------------------------- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Björnkärrsgatan 5 A.11 \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 584 36 LINKÖPING | | +46 (0)13-17 69 83 +46 (0)70-332 1551 | | http://www.opal.dhs.org UIN/icq: 4912500 | \ gpg/f.p.: 7090 A92B 18FE 7994 0C36 4FE4 18A1 B1CF 0FE5 3DD9 / ---------------------------------------------------------------
