Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ben" == Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> Alas I don't see an easy way around this. In the meantime, Ben> java2-virtual-machine at least gives the java1.1 vs java2 Ben> distinction whilst being consistent with current policy and Ben> not singling out any particular

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Saturday 08 September 2001 00:15, Juergen Kreileder wrote: > Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I totally agree with your plans to change the policy to include a > > java2-virtual-machine concept... > > I don't see much value in "java2-virtual-machine" unless it actually > means a

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ben" == Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> Alas I don't see an easy way around this. In the meantime, Ben> java2-virtual-machine at least gives the java1.1 vs java2 Ben> distinction whilst being consistent with current policy and Ben> not singling out any particula

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> I don't see much value in "java2-virtual-machine" unless it actually > means a complete Java 2 runtime environment. The idea is that much as I love the blackdown port, one wants to allow for multiple JVMs that all offer a runtime environment that claims to be more or less Java 2 compatible (t

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Juergen Kreileder
Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I totally agree with your plans to change the policy to include a > java2-virtual-machine concept... I don't see much value in "java2-virtual-machine" unless it actually means a complete Java 2 runtime environment. Our new packages currently provid

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> I don't see much value in "java2-virtual-machine" unless it actually > means a complete Java 2 runtime environment. The idea is that much as I love the blackdown port, one wants to allow for multiple JVMs that all offer a runtime environment that claims to be more or less Java 2 compatible (

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Juergen Kreileder
Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I totally agree with your plans to change the policy to include a > java2-virtual-machine concept... I don't see much value in "java2-virtual-machine" unless it actually means a complete Java 2 runtime environment. Our new packages currently provi

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Marcus Crafter
Hi Egon, On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Egon Willighagen wrote: > On Friday 07 September 2001 19:26, Egon Willighagen wrote: > > > Perhaps we should wait a few days to see if any others have > > > comments/thoughts they would like to add, as I'm more than interested > > > in hearing any other proposal

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> BTW, what would the correct way to change the Java policy? Not sure. I'd do it by raising discussion on this list and filing a wishlist bug against java-common, which contains the java policy. But maybe I just don't know better. :) Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Friday 07 September 2001 19:26, Egon Willighagen wrote: > > Perhaps we should wait a few days to see if any others have > > comments/thoughts they would like to add, as I'm more than interested > > in hearing any other proposals, comments, etc. > > Yes, that sounds like a good idea..

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Friday 07 September 2001 15:13, Marcus Crafter wrote: > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > > Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also > > > provide java-virtual-machine ? > > > > Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :) > > > > No, I mean for instanc

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Marcus Crafter
Hi Egon, On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Egon Willighagen wrote: > On Friday 07 September 2001 19:26, Egon Willighagen wrote: > > > Perhaps we should wait a few days to see if any others have > > > comments/thoughts they would like to add, as I'm more than interested > > > in hearing any other proposa

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> BTW, what would the correct way to change the Java policy? Not sure. I'd do it by raising discussion on this list and filing a wishlist bug against java-common, which contains the java policy. But maybe I just don't know better. :) Ben. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Friday 07 September 2001 19:26, Egon Willighagen wrote: > > Perhaps we should wait a few days to see if any others have > > comments/thoughts they would like to add, as I'm more than interested > > in hearing any other proposals, comments, etc. > > Yes, that sounds like a good idea.

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Friday 07 September 2001 15:13, Marcus Crafter wrote: > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > > Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also > > > provide java-virtual-machine ? > > > > Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :) > > > > No, I mean for instan

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> How does that sound ? Works for me. :) b. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] People can be so vicious toward the imaginary world and it saddens me. You kill a lot of little people's dreams that w

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Marcus Crafter
Hi Ben, On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also > > provide java-virtual-machine ? > > Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :) > > No, I mean for instance kaffe should provide java-virtual-machine, but > j2s

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also > provide java-virtual-machine ? Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :) No, I mean for instance kaffe should provide java-virtual-machine, but j2sdk1.3 should provide both java-virtual-machine and java2-

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> How does that sound ? Works for me. :) b. -- Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baasil.humbug.org.au/bab/ Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] People can be so vicious toward the imaginary world and it saddens me. You kill a lot of little people's dreams that

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Marcus Crafter
Hi Ben, On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also > > provide java-virtual-machine ? > > Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :) > > No, I mean for instance kaffe should provide java-virtual-machine, but > j2

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Ben Burton
> Do you mean that the java2-virtual-machine-dummy package should also > provide java-virtual-machine ? Well, that too, but that's not what I meant. :) No, I mean for instance kaffe should provide java-virtual-machine, but j2sdk1.3 should provide both java-virtual-machine and java2

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Marcus Crafter
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > > java2-virtual-machine/dummy packages would help settle dependancies for non > > Debian packaged JDK's, java2 compliant Debian packages could 'provide' > > this. We could then 'depend' on it. > > ,,, > > ... perhaps we should introduce java2 in /etc/alte

Re: Packages that require Java 2 ?

2001-09-07 Thread Marcus Crafter
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Ben Burton wrote: > > > java2-virtual-machine/dummy packages would help settle dependancies for non > > Debian packaged JDK's, java2 compliant Debian packages could 'provide' > > this. We could then 'depend' on it. > > ,,, > > ... perhaps we should introduce java2 in /etc/alt