> What package would be simplest to set up and maintain for general
> proxy/firewall purposes?
squid and iptables 'a kernel+app resource'.
> One of the major concerns for them is restricting unauthorized downloads
and
> allowing Internet access to a database system using the server version of
> F
behind NAT routers and connected via modem, ISDN, ADSL, or cable-modem connections.
[root@gw log]#
I'm sure it's on my Debian CD collection.
I don't think these are grom Glenrowan though.
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I wonder if, it's possible to install packages with cdrom (apt-cdrom) through
apt-proxy to another machine. How it is possible to install packages through
network. I only have a set of 7 cd's... and my internet connection is to slow.
Happy new year
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> On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 06:04, David H. Clymer wrote:
> > I just ran chkrootkit,and it at one point, indicates that I may have an
> > LKM rootkit installed on my box (see output below). I then downloaded
> > and installed sash, and when I run chkrootkit as sashroot, It doesnt
> > detect anything (a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Well.. I can also grep "From:" to see wich addresses are sending more
> mails than usual, don't I?
You're joking, right? From: is easily faked, and any bulk spammer fakes it.
Unless you block your clients from sending on port 25, you can't tell what
mail they're send
Hi Erik,
What I have done in the past with non-bootable Windows situations was to
copy ncftp onto a boot floppy with the Linux kernel (and the proper drivers
for the network card and PCMCIA support), then do a recursive upload (put
-R *) to a Linux FTP server (or unfortunately, IIS if you have i
Well, you could buy a managed switch from HP or Cisco. :-)
Personally, I have no idea how to do this sort of thing with Linux; but
it's probably better to do it at the backbone with a reliable switch than
to throw in extra servers with multiple network cards all over the place
(which would incre
Hi,
Last time I checked, popper was just a POP daemon (which runs on port
110). The error message is from your SMTP daemon (which runs on port 25;
it looks like you are using sendmail).
My guess is that you have an address forwarding to itself in your aliases
file, the virtusertable, or someth
> What package would be simplest to set up and maintain for general
> proxy/firewall purposes?
squid and iptables 'a kernel+app resource'.
> One of the major concerns for them is restricting unauthorized downloads
and
> allowing Internet access to a database system using the server version of
> Fi
Has anyone noticed a rash of scans and UDP attacks coming from Level3.net?
I've seen a high number of them, all directed UDP attacks. Is this a new
DOS or other attack?
Joe
ideal for networks behind NAT routers and connected via modem, ISDN, ADSL, or
cable-modem connections.
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I'm sure it's on my Debian CD collection.
I don't think these are grom Glenrowan though.
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> On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 06:04, David H. Clymer wrote:
> > I just ran chkrootkit,and it at one point, indicates that I may have an
> > LKM rootkit installed on my box (see output below). I then downloaded
> > and installed sash, and when I run chkrootkit as sashroot, It doesnt
> > detect anything (a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Well.. I can also grep "From:" to see wich addresses are sending more
> mails than usual, don't I?
You're joking, right? From: is easily faked, and any bulk spammer fakes it.
Unless you block your clients from sending on port 25, you can't tell what
mail they're send
I´m ask my self if there is an utility to resctrict the bandwidht consumed
by services. The problem is that when someone use ftp service or smtp
service with a important size of byte, others can´t use services on our
little network.
Is There any utility which allows me restrict the use of band
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.4.22-i386.deb, and here you can't see it either.
Perhaps CONFIG_RTNETLINK is an option which has been addeed on
CONFIG_NETLINK option on these kernels or something like this...
I have a debian stable distro.
Could you help me with this doubt?
Thanks you very much in advance.
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Hallo Leute,
wir wollten unsere Server, welche an physikalisch verschiedenen Standorten
stehen, untereinander mit OpenVPN vernetzen. Roadwarrior Access ist nicht
geplant, aber evtl. bald auch einmal denkbar. Hat schon jemand von euch
Erfahrung mit OpenVPN? Wenn ja, wäre ich um ein bisschen Hilfe s
El lun, 19-04-2004 a las 19:58, David Wilk escribió:
> Howdy,
>
> I noticed that qmail-scanner-queue refuses to run after the last debian
> perl update. I tried to install the latest qmail-scanner, but
> unfortunately the ./configure fails reporting:
>
>
> Testing
will have to do that if you are scanning mail for
clients.
What do you mean 15GB mail traffic / server? Mine currently handles
about 300k pieces of mail, and it's load balanced over two dual piii-733
dell power edges running debian. They run about 75% loaded all day, with
a load of abou
-jason
peace bwitchu wrote:
These two bind servers are authoritative for 200 zones
and as far as clients go that's a hard one. Because
of the way everything snowballed before I got ahold of
it it could be as many as > 10,000 this is a best
guess of course. Once I prove that debian is the w
I´m ask my self if there is an utility to resctrict the bandwidht consumed
by services. The problem is that when someone use ftp service or smtp
service with a important size of byte, others can´t use services on our
little network.
Is There any utility which allows me restrict the use of band
.4.22-i386.deb, and here you can't see it either.
Perhaps CONFIG_RTNETLINK is an option which has been addeed on
CONFIG_NETLINK option on these kernels or something like this...
I have a debian stable distro.
Could you help me with this doubt?
Thanks you very much in advance.
Hallo Leute,
wir wollten unsere Server, welche an physikalisch verschiedenen Standorten
stehen, untereinander mit OpenVPN vernetzen. Roadwarrior Access ist nicht
geplant, aber evtl. bald auch einmal denkbar. Hat schon jemand von euch
Erfahrung mit OpenVPN? Wenn ja, wäre ich um ein bisschen Hilfe s
El lun, 19-04-2004 a las 19:58, David Wilk escribió:
> Howdy,
>
> I noticed that qmail-scanner-queue refuses to run after the last debian
> perl update. I tried to install the latest qmail-scanner, but
> unfortunately the ./configure fails reporting:
>
>
> Testing
Hi Erik,
What I have done in the past with non-bootable Windows situations was to
copy ncftp onto a boot floppy with the Linux kernel (and the proper drivers
for the network card and PCMCIA support), then do a recursive upload (put
-R *) to a Linux FTP server (or unfortunately, IIS if you have
Well, you could buy a managed switch from HP or Cisco. :-)
Personally, I have no idea how to do this sort of thing with Linux; but
it's probably better to do it at the backbone with a reliable switch than
to throw in extra servers with multiple network cards all over the place
(which would inc
Hi,
Last time I checked, popper was just a POP daemon (which runs on port
110). The error message is from your SMTP daemon (which runs on port 25;
it looks like you are using sendmail).
My guess is that you have an address forwarding to itself in your aliases
file, the virtusertable, or some
Question...
Has anyone gotten to work the lucent tnt lots-o-modems thingie with A
free/cistron radiusd and debian?
How is that compared to, say NavisRadius form lucent??/ or other
proprietary AAA solutions. You guys say go proprietary or go freeradius
for the dial-in stuff???
This is a
Hallo,
Thanks for the previus prompt and great answers. I guess i should
elaborate just one little bit on this.
The TNT is a lucent terminal server product listed as Ascend Radius
compliant or Extended Radius Protocol compliant.
So im wondering if anyone has had any troubles with that on Cistro
Hallo,
Thanks for the previus prompt and great answers. I guess i should
elaborate just one little bit on this.
The TNT is a lucent terminal server product listed as Ascend Radius
compliant or Extended Radius Protocol compliant.
So im wondering if anyone has had any troubles with that on Cistro
Hulo debian loving isp crowd,
Any ideas where i could find a non-to-complex and free benchamrking
suite for RADIUS servers...Ive seen bonnie++'s father talking about some
benchmarks he did (I know you are out here somwhere) and I was just
curious if the scripts you used are shareable (can
Um...this here is the ISP listaint there a users lista around
somewhere?
real easy...
By default, debian's apache comes with ~username directories enabled
you can start there www.yourserver.com/~dude1/ should bring up
/home/dude1/public_html/index.htmlthats there for free...in def
El lun, 25-02-2002 a las 15:48, Michal Novotny escribió:
> There is a couple of interesting answers, but nothing to help me with
> my imagine, but I am (maybe) too exacting to find a real (little more
> described) way to setup the webhosting with my needs.
> Anyway, is there any doc or som
> Does anybody know a software (open source of cause) for portal management ?
You can add phpwebsite to the list.
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Hi,
I have a user that has one of his domains, user1.com, pointing his
other domain, user2.com via the dns zone file. He asked me to redirect
his user1.com domain to
his new domain user3.com. I changed the entry in his user1.com zone file
to point to the new user3.com domain, which is u
ri, 1 Nov 2002, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Debian User wrote:
>
> >
> > his new domain user3.com. I changed the entry in his user1.com zone file
> > to point to the new user3.com domain, which is up. I also up dated the
>
> Show us.
>
> Also w
; I was wondering if any of you have any experience running a game server
> under Debian. Also wondering if you know the CPU/memory/bandwidth
> requirements of such a project. Thanks,
>
> Todd
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Yes Im not impressed either, Ive had words with HP/Compaq reps over the
crappy support for Debian, indeed I think the RH support is half hearted at
best. Ive tried running rpm under debian with this compaq stuff and it failed
miserably, but this was on a 1600R. Ive had woody and rh 7.2 ~ 8.0
27;m trying to get an old proliant 5500 up as well ;-)
>
> > > 1.13GHz), and the various Compaq Agents drivers are avaiable for
> > > different releases of RedHat, SuSE and some other distros except
> > > Debian.
>
> having a hand would be nice...
>
> > I have
On Fri, 07 Feb 2003 07:32, Rich Puhek wrote:
> Jason Lim wrote:
> > But how about the motherboards themselves? Is it often for something on
> > the motherboard to fail, after 3-4 years continuous operation without
> > failure?
>
> Normally, I'd say no on this point, particularly if the server is
>
>> When installing servers in a colocated environment what do people
>> suggest for monitoring bandwidth used by virtual hosts on
>that server?
>
>Hello
>
>You can try modlogan (http://www.modlogan.org/), we are using
>it for IIS,
>Apache(clf) and Proftpd logs.
Hm looks like a mixture of webalizer
>I'm not sure what tool you want. My reading is, that you want
>to graph statistics for each customer, but not having an own
>IP address for each customer.
First step I wanted to have a overview of different hosts behind my firewall.
So I used ipacsum on the firewall. Creating different rules f
>
>How about running PHP in safe mode? In safe mode (as far as I
>understand) user scripts can only access files with the same uid.
Hm but they do have the same uid as they are uploaded via http and under the webserver
user ...
>
>On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 20:15, debian-isp w
Hi all !
I am just asking myself how to secure our webserver with a couple of virtual hosts.
Currently we have a large installation of typo3 running. It has a feature called
fileadmin with which you can easily upload files. As it is thereby possible to upload
php scripts and execute via the br
Hi all !
I have the task of setting up a mailserver capabel of sending 400 000 mail in a max
time of 12 hours.
All mails have an attachment of 1 mb. The system should be a mailer for a newsletter
system. As I made quite a couple of things with postfix, my concern is the amount and
consideratio
, our company has custom delivery
>software that can most certainly meet your needs. We have
>plenty of transit available to meet the lofty 100Mbit/sec
>projection that another debian-isp poster made based on 100%
>individual deliveries, as well.
>
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Hi all !
I just came across the vserver project... Sounds really good, if you have different
costommers with differnt needs.
http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/miscprj/s_context.hc
Anyone experience with it ?
__
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>Any help on this would be great, thanks
What are your problems ? I just finnished an installation ...
>Alex
>
>
>
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with a su
We have a Debian potato system running as a mail server. now when we put
this new system online following problem came...
sending mail with eudora from workstation takes a looong time. Is there
something obvious simple solution which I should already done.?
Pasi S.
Hello Debian ISPers,
I have a question regarding something I noticed on a debian
machine I use. I have a debian machine set up for internal ticketing
(request tracker) and I was browsing through my httpd logs and noticed
that some random users of the internet have been hitting the non existant
the machine and I can
ssh in just fine. I was wondering what I was doing wrong in my
host.deny. I have nothing in my host.allow also.
Any advice appriciated.
D. Ghost
'space ghost and debian ghost are one'
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
I took the advice of putting ALL: ALL in the hosts.deny file and now even
sshd will deny an attempt at connecting to it. It is open ssh from the
debian potato archive. Not sure why it is working according to what you
wrote, but it is denying everyone not in hosts.allow
Hello All,
I have a general question about TCP wrappers.
I know that they "wrap" rservices and somehow enhance security, but I am
rather unsure of what they actually do physically and where to get more
info on what services it is best to have wrapped. Any info on TCP wrappers
is much appriciated! T
TCP wrappers are normally used for stuff run out of inetd.conf. Then
> based on the rules in hosts.allow and hosts.deny allow the connection to take
> place. For more detailed info
>
> man hosts_access
>
> not sure if that works on non-debian boxen.
>
No one in debian-users could explain this.
Maybe one of you can? :)
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:36:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Debian Ghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: gnome panel (catch me if you can)
Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Se
I am currently running a box with around 3500 users and moved to use IMP.
Now we have slight problems with service during heavy usage time.
IMP doesnt let people in. I think it is database problem. To solve this I
though to put a link on a main page which redirects every other web-mail
request to
Hey Guys,
Do any of you know what may have caused this message in my syslogs?
Unusual System Events
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Sep 19 06:25:02 ghost su[322]: + ??? root-nobody
Sep 19 06:25:02 ghost PAM_unix[322]: (su) session opened for user nobody
by (uid=0)
I am unsure of what the ??? represents a
Hello,
Has anyone set up MRTG to monitor an ethernet device on a debian machine?
I was pondering doing so and wondered if anyone had had any luck or
advice. I may also want to monitor CPU via MRTG.
Thanks for any info!
D. Ghost
Hey Russel and Group,
Thanks for the continuing discussion.
> Nobody suing to root is not non-threatening! Ideally you would have a group
> wheel or root required for su to root to prevent this. Currently I haven't
> as
> I haven't got the PAM setup for it going yet.
PAM is acronym for 'pass
Hello All,
Is there a way to log incoming ICMP requests? What would have to be
wrapped in order to basically log all requests of the machine (pings in
particular)
Thanks,
D. Ghost
>
> -jg
>
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:46 PM
> To: debian-isp
> Subject: ping
>
> Hello All,
> Is there a
Can anyone tell me what is going on with my eth0 in this machine?
Sep 21 22:23:33 ghost kernel: eth0: Transmit error, Tx status register 82.
Sep 21 22:53:49 ghost kernel: eth0: Transmit error, Tx status register 82.
Sep 21 22:54:20 ghost kernel: eth0: Transmit error, Tx status regis
Hi,
I have the following error message when starting pppd:
/usr/sbin/pppd -detach
/usr/sbin/pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself
/usr/sbin/pppd: but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for
it to use to do so.
/usr/sbin/pppd: (None of the available passwords wou
PDU bufsize: 8000 bytes
timeout: 2s
retries: 5
backoff: 1)
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Martin Kos wrote:
>
> hi
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Has anyone set up MRTG to monitor an ethernet device on a debian machin
Roger Waters wrote:
> Debian User wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have the following error message when starting pppd:
> > /usr/sbin/pppd -detach
> > /usr/sbin/pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself
> > /usr/sbin/pppd: but I couldn
BTW,
The hardware for this system will be a compaq DL380 series server.
It has 5 ultra2 scsi 9.1 gig drives. I did not know if ultra2 scsi
presented any advantage when considering freebsd or Debian or not.
Any info on this is appriciated!
http://www5.compaq.com/products/servers/proliantdl380
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:12:33PM +0200, Marcin Sochacki wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:00:02AM -0400, Robert Brown wrote:
> > > br-xr-S-wx1 223048236 105, 114 Oct 23 2030 libnss_db.so.2
> > > I've tried to delete, rename, chown and chmod with out any luck. What
> > > shoul
> > I tried to update my debian box which is running Potato. When libc6 tries
> to
> > install it fails giving an error about not being able to symlink
> libnss_db.so.2.
> > I took a look at libnss_db.so.2 and things are very odd. A 'ls -la' gives
One of the
Question...
Has anyone gotten to work the lucent tnt lots-o-modems thingie with A
free/cistron radiusd and debian?
How is that compared to, say NavisRadius form lucent??/ or other
proprietary AAA solutions. You guys say go proprietary or go freeradius
for the dial-in stuff???
This is a
Hallo,
Thanks for the previus prompt and great answers. I guess i should
elaborate just one little bit on this.
The TNT is a lucent terminal server product listed as Ascend Radius
compliant or Extended Radius Protocol compliant.
So im wondering if anyone has had any troubles with that on Cistron
Hallo,
Thanks for the previus prompt and great answers. I guess i should
elaborate just one little bit on this.
The TNT is a lucent terminal server product listed as Ascend Radius
compliant or Extended Radius Protocol compliant.
So im wondering if anyone has had any troubles with that on Cistron
Hulo debian loving isp crowd,
Any ideas where i could find a non-to-complex and free benchamrking
suite for RADIUS servers...Ive seen bonnie++'s father talking about some
benchmarks he did (I know you are out here somwhere) and I was just
curious if the scripts you used are shareable (can
Um...this here is the ISP listaint there a users lista around
somewhere?
real easy...
By default, debian's apache comes with ~username directories enabled
you can start there www.yourserver.com/~dude1/ should bring up
/home/dude1/public_html/index.htmlthats there for free...in defa
El lun, 25-02-2002 a las 15:48, Michal Novotny escribió:
> There is a couple of interesting answers, but nothing to help me with
> my imagine, but I am (maybe) too exacting to find a real (little more
> described) way to setup the webhosting with my needs.
> Anyway, is there any doc or some
Hi,
I have a user that has one of his domains, user1.com, pointing his
other domain, user2.com via the dns zone file. He asked me to redirect
his user1.com domain to
his new domain user3.com. I changed the entry in his user1.com zone file
to point to the new user3.com domain, which is u
ri, 1 Nov 2002, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Debian User wrote:
>
> >
> > his new domain user3.com. I changed the entry in his user1.com zone file
> > to point to the new user3.com domain, which is up. I also up dated the
>
> Show us.
>
> Also w
Hi all !
I am just asking myself how to secure our webserver with a couple of virtual
hosts.
Currently we have a large installation of typo3 running. It has a feature
called fileadmin with which you can easily upload files. As it is thereby
possible to upload php scripts and execute via the b
>
>How about running PHP in safe mode? In safe mode (as far as I
>understand) user scripts can only access files with the same uid.
Hm but they do have the same uid as they are uploaded via http and under the
webserver user ...
>
>On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 20:15, debian-isp w
Hi all !
I have the task of setting up a mailserver capabel of sending 400 000 mail in a
max time of 12 hours.
All mails have an attachment of 1 mb. The system should be a mailer for a
newsletter system. As I made quite a couple of things with postfix, my concern
is the amount and consideratio
, our company has custom delivery
>software that can most certainly meet your needs. We have
>plenty of transit available to meet the lofty 100Mbit/sec
>projection that another debian-isp poster made based on 100%
>individual deliveries, as well.
>
>--
>Jeff S Wheeler <[EM
Hi all !
I just came across the vserver project... Sounds really good, if you have
different costommers with differnt needs.
http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/miscprj/s_context.hc
Anyone experience with it ?
__
Nik Engel NETW
>Any help on this would be great, thanks
What are your problems ? I just finnished an installation ...
>Alex
>
>
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Hi !
>I'm a newbie when it comes to the more complex aspects of
>debian, so if you
>could send me step by step instructions on getting my install
>to work, that
>would be really appreciated. I haven't tried anything that I
>didn't know
>how to undo.
Hi !
>I'm a newbie when it comes to the more complex aspects of
>debian, so if you
>could send me step by step instructions on getting my install
>to work, that
>would be really appreciated. I haven't tried anything that I
>didn't know
>how to undo.
).
Has anyone else been faced with this problem? Since we are unable to
convince our clients to move to Debian desktops with KMail or some other OSS
alternative, some workaround for this issue would be greatly appreciated!
Googling has not proven very helpful (only confirmed this as a problem).
Thanks
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I request an adopter for the libcrypt-hcesha-perl package. It is
primarily of interest as a dependancy of the OpenSRS client code for
domain registrations (see Bug#146456).
There are no serious problems with the package, it should be fine for
sarge. Eventually it
David Thurman wrote:
On 11/22/04 8:46 AM, "Ross, Chris" wrote:
1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they
have been allowed to work and no other area.
2. Web browser accessible. GUI editor.
3. EASY to use for non technical folks!
4. Little modification needed.
Loo
Ross, Chris wrote:
My recollection was that the you could set up a user then grant
them an access level. At that point, the access level applied to the
entire Mambo site. There was not a way to set up an area for each user
then grant that user access only to that area.
If you were
Hi !
We are just considering if we should try to set up our firewall on a
Rackmountsystem with only
Compac flash card and onboard cpu. Which would reduce a least the possibility
of a harddisk crash, and would provide an easy possiblity to swap cards when
there is a problem.
The compac flash c
).
Has anyone else been faced with this problem? Since we are unable to
convince our clients to move to Debian desktops with KMail or some other OSS
alternative, some workaround for this issue would be greatly appreciated!
Googling has not proven very helpful (only confirmed this as a problem).
Thanks
We have a Debian potato system running as a mail server. now when we put
this new system online following problem came...
sending mail with eudora from workstation takes a looong time. Is there
something obvious simple solution which I should already done.?
Pasi S.
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I have a question regarding something I noticed on a debian
machine I use. I have a debian machine set up for internal ticketing
(request tracker) and I was browsing through my httpd logs and noticed
that some random users of the internet have been hitting the non existant
the machine and I can
ssh in just fine. I was wondering what I was doing wrong in my
host.deny. I have nothing in my host.allow also.
Any advice appriciated.
D. Ghost
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Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
I took the advice of putting ALL: ALL in the hosts.deny file and now even
sshd will deny an attempt at connecting to it. It is open ssh from the
debian potato archive. Not sure why it is working according to what you
wrote, but it is denying everyone not in hosts.allow
Hello All,
I have a general question about TCP wrappers.
I know that they "wrap" rservices and somehow enhance security, but I am
rather unsure of what they actually do physically and where to get more
info on what services it is best to have wrapped. Any info on TCP wrappers
is much appriciated!
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