> I don't have a footnote, but I believe a recent linux journal article says
> that the 2.6 kernel uses a posix threads library which are much nicer than
> linux threads and that redhat has backported this support to RH9 and the
> 2.4 kernel.
>
> It should be possible to DL the redhat 2.4 patches
Fred Whipple wrote:
Hi Everyone,
A while back I asked for some feedback and got a very rich set of info
from folks about Debian used in a stable ISP environment as compared to
other OS's and distributions. All the info was very helpful and helped
us further solidify our desire (though not yet d
> I don't have a footnote, but I believe a recent linux journal article says
> that the 2.6 kernel uses a posix threads library which are much nicer than
> linux threads and that redhat has backported this support to RH9 and the
> 2.4 kernel.
>
> It should be possible to DL the redhat 2.4 patches
Fred Whipple wrote:
Hi Everyone,
A while back I asked for some feedback and got a very rich set of info
from folks about Debian used in a stable ISP environment as compared to
other OS's and distributions. All the info was very helpful and helped
us further solidify our desire (though not yet
I don't have a footnote, but I believe a recent linux journal article says
that the 2.6 kernel uses a posix threads library which are much nicer than
linux threads and that redhat has backported this support to RH9 and the
2.4 kernel.
It should be possible to DL the redhat 2.4 patches
On Mon, 2
RH9 support NTPL, which might explain your problem.
could you also have a look at this post.
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=38138
It is a hot discussion about why Java is slower on Linux than on
Windows, slower on Gentoo than on RH9, whether NTPL would help boost
the performance.
regar
I don't have a footnote, but I believe a recent linux journal article says
that the 2.6 kernel uses a posix threads library which are much nicer than
linux threads and that redhat has backported this support to RH9 and the
2.4 kernel.
It should be possible to DL the redhat 2.4 patches
On Mon, 2
RH9 support NTPL, which might explain your problem.
could you also have a look at this post.
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=38138
It is a hot discussion about why Java is slower on Linux than on
Windows, slower on Gentoo than on RH9, whether NTPL would help boost
the performance.
regar
Just to follow up:
If you do want to install Debian with the 2.4 kernel just use the
BF24 boot option when installing from CD. A complete list of boot
options is available when installing from CD.
You then will have 2.4 options (i.e. drivers, ext3, etc.) available
during the install process.
This is not a problem. The 2.4 kernel is included in the current Debian
release, it is just
not the default. All of my Debian boxes are set up for 2.4 kernel (no need to
compile unless
you want it more efficient). Also, ext3 is standard, just not the default
Am 2004-02-02 13:24:24, schrieb Fred Whipple:
>Hi Everyone,
>I see that Debian 3.0r2 includes a nicely aged (like fine cheese) Linux
>2.2 kernel. While I'm certain the aging process only makes its flavour
Who install 2.2.22 ???
There is a 2.4.18-bf24 too.
>stronger and more delectable, I'm af
Just to follow up:
If you do want to install Debian with the 2.4 kernel just use the
BF24 boot option when installing from CD. A complete list of boot
options is available when installing from CD.
You then will have 2.4 options (i.e. drivers, ext3, etc.) available
during the install process.
This is not a problem. The 2.4 kernel is included in the current Debian release, it is
just
not the default. All of my Debian boxes are set up for 2.4 kernel (no need to compile
unless
you want it more efficient). Also, ext3 is standard, just not the default.
Probably better ways to do it, but I
Am 2004-02-02 13:24:24, schrieb Fred Whipple:
>Hi Everyone,
>I see that Debian 3.0r2 includes a nicely aged (like fine cheese) Linux
>2.2 kernel. While I'm certain the aging process only makes its flavour
Who install 2.2.22 ???
There is a 2.4.18-bf24 too.
>stronger and more delectable, I'm af
Robert Cates wrote:
I would also like to mention that your issue with the Java PIDs I believe to
be more of an issue with the Java SDK/JVM/JRE version you have installed.
I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, but I seem to remember reading
about the new Java version out now, and it's improvemen
> threads
Note that RH 9 includes the new NPTL threading libraries. This is
probably why your threaded Java stuff works so well in RH9 (unless you
include the environment variables that force Java back to the old
threading model).
NPTL is not in Debian stable. Getting it there, I suspect, wo
Debian 3.0r2 with kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 and Java SDK/JRE 1.4.2_02 and
everything else you need, test for a reasonable amount of time, then convert
the rest.?
regards,
Robert
- Original Message -
From: "Fred Whipple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 7:2
On Monday 02 February 2004 19:38, Mark Ferlatte wrote:
> Fred Whipple said on Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 01:24:24PM -0500:
> > Finally, while I'm messing around with the kernel, I'd have to
> > include support for ext3fs. In our environment, journaling is not
> > an option, it's a base requirement. Of
Robert Cates wrote:
I would also like to mention that your issue with the Java PIDs I believe to
be more of an issue with the Java SDK/JVM/JRE version you have installed.
I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, but I seem to remember reading
about the new Java version out now, and it's improveme
On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 10:24, Fred Whipple wrote:
> I see that Debian 3.0r2 includes a nicely aged (like fine cheese) Linux
> 2.2 kernel.
While 2.2 is the default, Debian 3.0 includes the 2.4 kernel.
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kernel-image-2.4&searchon=name
Fred Whipple said on Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 01:24:24PM -0500:
> I see that Debian 3.0r2 includes a nicely aged (like fine cheese) Linux
> 2.2 kernel. While I'm certain the aging process only makes its flavour
> stronger and more delectable, I'm afraid it's going to choke at the
> thought of 10,00
> threads
Note that RH 9 includes the new NPTL threading libraries. This is
probably why your threaded Java stuff works so well in RH9 (unless you
include the environment variables that force Java back to the old
threading model).
NPTL is not in Debian stable. Getting it there, I suspect, wo
Debian 3.0r2 with kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 and Java SDK/JRE 1.4.2_02 and
everything else you need, test for a reasonable amount of time, then convert
the rest.?
regards,
Robert
- Original Message -
From: "Fred Whipple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: M
Hi Everyone,
A while back I asked for some feedback and got a very rich set of info
from folks about Debian used in a stable ISP environment as compared to
other OS's and distributions. All the info was very helpful and helped
us further solidify our desire (though not yet decision) to make Deb
On Monday 02 February 2004 19:38, Mark Ferlatte wrote:
> Fred Whipple said on Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 01:24:24PM -0500:
> > Finally, while I'm messing around with the kernel, I'd have to
> > include support for ext3fs. In our environment, journaling is not
> > an option, it's a base requirement. Of
On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 10:24, Fred Whipple wrote:
> I see that Debian 3.0r2 includes a nicely aged (like fine cheese) Linux
> 2.2 kernel.
While 2.2 is the default, Debian 3.0 includes the 2.4 kernel.
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kernel-image-2.4&searchon=name
Fred Whipple said on Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 01:24:24PM -0500:
> I see that Debian 3.0r2 includes a nicely aged (like fine cheese) Linux
> 2.2 kernel. While I'm certain the aging process only makes its flavour
> stronger and more delectable, I'm afraid it's going to choke at the
> thought of 10,00
Hi Everyone,
A while back I asked for some feedback and got a very rich set of info
from folks about Debian used in a stable ISP environment as compared to
other OS's and distributions. All the info was very helpful and helped
us further solidify our desire (though not yet decision) to make De
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