Re: Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-09-01 Thread Dag . Stensby
Hi Michelle, Have you sloved your backbone problems ? The suggestion by Richard for using a radio bridge or hop is well proven and very cheap compared to LL's. Moreover using PTP in conjunction with PTMP solutions, for last mile access can in this way avoid the largest costs and easily scale the

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 18:45:59 +0200, Michelle wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Am 2004-04-11 06:24:56, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: > > > >..or, one or 2 of my relay drones. > > How does this work exactly ? > Tell me more about it, may be PM. ..deal. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Re

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:13:45 +0200, Michelle wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Drop me some lines PM about pricing... ..willco. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets o

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 18:45:59 +0200, Michelle wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Am 2004-04-11 06:24:56, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: > > > >..or, one or 2 of my relay drones. > > How does this work exactly ? > Tell me more about it, may be PM. ..deal. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Re

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:13:45 +0200, Michelle wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Drop me some lines PM about pricing... ..willco. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets o

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-04-11 05:03:38, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: >On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 21:10:44 +0200, Michelle wrote in message ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> The 54 MBit are only Theory ! >> Practical you can get around 40 MBit for each channel. > >..riiight, dream on. Say 20Mbps and I'll agree. ;-) Do you dream fr

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-04-11 06:24:56, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: >On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:02:35 +0200, Michelle wrote in message ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> OK, between 8 and 12. >> >> He was meaning, thats a real chiffre. > >..thats like 70 to 110 mill euros. Right, devided by 11. >> Oll Users have a fixed IP-Addr

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-04-11 05:03:38, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: >On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 21:10:44 +0200, Michelle wrote in message ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> The 54 MBit are only Theory ! >> Practical you can get around 40 MBit for each channel. > >..riiight, dream on. Say 20Mbps and I'll agree. ;-) Do you dream fr

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-11 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-04-11 06:24:56, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: >On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:02:35 +0200, Michelle wrote in message ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> OK, between 8 and 12. >> >> He was meaning, thats a real chiffre. > >..thats like 70 to 110 mill euros. Right, devided by 11. >> Oll Users have a fixed IP-Addr

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:02:35 +0200, Michelle wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Am 2004-04-09 23:20:47, schrieb Andreas John: > >Hello! > > > >Before all this begins to get silly: > >You are playing with amount of money which I would not concern as > >pennyware. As from you mails before, it

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 21:10:44 +0200, Michelle wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello Arnt, > > Am 2004-04-09 18:23:03, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: > >On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:03:06 +0200, Michelle wrote in message > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> They offer me only E3 with 34 MBit !!! > >> And 34 M

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:02:35 +0200, Michelle wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Am 2004-04-09 23:20:47, schrieb Andreas John: > >Hello! > > > >Before all this begins to get silly: > >You are playing with amount of money which I would not concern as > >pennyware. As from you mails before, it

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 21:10:44 +0200, Michelle wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello Arnt, > > Am 2004-04-09 18:23:03, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: > >On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:03:06 +0200, Michelle wrote in message > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> They offer me only E3 with 34 MBit !!! > >> And 34 M

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-04-09 23:20:47, schrieb Andreas John: >Hello! > >Before all this begins to get silly: >You are playing with amount of money which I would not concern as >pennyware. As from you mails before, it's clearly to recognize that you I had a talk with the "Ministry of Communicatin" in Rabat and

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-04-09 23:20:47, schrieb Andreas John: >Hello! > >Before all this begins to get silly: >You are playing with amount of money which I would not concern as >pennyware. As from you mails before, it's clearly to recognize that you I had a talk with the "Ministry of Communicatin" in Rabat and

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Andreas John
Hello! Before all this begins to get silly: You are playing with amount of money which I would not concern as pennyware. As from you mails before, it's clearly to recognize that you haven an idea, but no concept nor the skills you need. You will need probably consultants who help you to find a c

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Andreas John
Hello! Before all this begins to get silly: You are playing with amount of money which I would not concern as pennyware. As from you mails before, it's clearly to recognize that you haven an idea, but no concept nor the skills you need. You will need probably consultants who help you to find a

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Arnt, Am 2004-04-09 18:23:03, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: >On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:03:06 +0200, Michelle wrote in message ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> They offer me only E3 with 34 MBit !!! >> And 34 MBit for 450.000 DH/month (41.000 Euro/month) > >..dude. For that kinda money, I could hang you a fe

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-04-09 17:49:42, schrieb Ralph Paßgang: >Am Freitag 09 April 2004 16:03 schrieb Michelle Konzack: >> Hello, > >Hi :) Hello, >in theory this is correct, but you should think about good manageable >switches, so that you can build vlans. Without vlans your security in your >network is not

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-04-09 17:32:57, schrieb Richard Zuidhof: >Michelle Konzack wrote: >> Hello, >> >> because I am in paning of a CyberCenter Network in Marocco the idea is >> exploding !!! Exactly, I need very much Backbone-Power which can not >> provided from the "Maroc Telecom" > >Aren't there other provide

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Arnt, Am 2004-04-09 18:23:03, schrieb Arnt Karlsen: >On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:03:06 +0200, Michelle wrote in message ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> They offer me only E3 with 34 MBit !!! >> And 34 MBit for 450.000 DH/month (41.000 Euro/month) > >..dude. For that kinda money, I could hang you a fe

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-04-09 17:49:42, schrieb Ralph Paßgang: >Am Freitag 09 April 2004 16:03 schrieb Michelle Konzack: >> Hello, > >Hi :) Hello, >in theory this is correct, but you should think about good manageable >switches, so that you can build vlans. Without vlans your security in your >network is not

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-04-09 17:32:57, schrieb Richard Zuidhof: >Michelle Konzack wrote: >> Hello, >> >> because I am in paning of a CyberCenter Network in Marocco the idea is >> exploding !!! Exactly, I need very much Backbone-Power which can not >> provided from the "Maroc Telecom" > >Aren't there other provide

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:03:06 +0200, Michelle wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello, > > because I am in paning of a CyberCenter Network in Marocco the idea is > exploding !!! Exactly, I need very much Backbone-Power which can not > provided from the "Maroc Telecom" > > They offer me on

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Ralph Paßgang
Am Freitag 09 April 2004 16:03 schrieb Michelle Konzack: > Hello, Hi :) > [...] > Now my Question: > > Creating a Local GBit-Network in Marocco is generaly no Problem, it > is not a big difference between it and my local network, exept I need > a little bit more cable. in theory this is correct,

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Richard Zuidhof
Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello, > > because I am in paning of a CyberCenter Network in Marocco the idea is > exploding !!! Exactly, I need very much Backbone-Power which can not > provided from the "Maroc Telecom" Aren't there other providers? I remember many routes to Morocco using Seabone. You

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:03:06 +0200, Michelle wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello, > > because I am in paning of a CyberCenter Network in Marocco the idea is > exploding !!! Exactly, I need very much Backbone-Power which can not > provided from the "Maroc Telecom" > > They offer me on

Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, because I am in paning of a CyberCenter Network in Marocco the idea is exploding !!! Exactly, I need very much Backbone-Power which can not provided from the "Maroc Telecom" They offer me only E3 with 34 MBit !!! And 34 MBit for 450.000 DH/month (41.000 Euro/month) Only my Proxim Tsun

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Ralph Paßgang
Am Freitag 09 April 2004 16:03 schrieb Michelle Konzack: > Hello, Hi :) > [...] > Now my Question: > > Creating a Local GBit-Network in Marocco is generaly no Problem, it > is not a big difference between it and my local network, exept I need > a little bit more cable. in theory this is correct,

Re: Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Richard Zuidhof
Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello, > > because I am in paning of a CyberCenter Network in Marocco the idea is > exploding !!! Exactly, I need very much Backbone-Power which can not > provided from the "Maroc Telecom" Aren't there other providers? I remember many routes to Morocco using Seabone. You

Little BIG problem with Backbone

2004-04-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, because I am in paning of a CyberCenter Network in Marocco the idea is exploding !!! Exactly, I need very much Backbone-Power which can not provided from the "Maroc Telecom" They offer me only E3 with 34 MBit !!! And 34 MBit for 450.000 DH/month (41.000 Euro/month) Only my Proxim Tsun