Re: Why are company's not certifying Debian?

2004-10-29 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya On Sat, 30 Oct 2004, Rishi wrote: > > the server you buy, is herein "blessed/certified to work with debian" > > - see the incompatibility list as what was previously > > posted for what is known NOT to work > > joking apart. :-) .. really what I meant was once I tried to i

Re: Why are company's not certifying Debian?

2004-10-29 Thread Rishi
> - if you cannot be down for more than 5 minutes... you should have 2 > complete independent systems ( properly configured and tested for > high-availability ... ) which has NOTHING to do with raid or mirror'ing > - if you cannot afford the extra hardware and extra time > to co

Re: Why are company's not certifying Debian?

2004-10-29 Thread Rishi
> the server you buy, is herein "blessed/certified to work with debian" > - see the incompatibility list as what was previously > posted for what is known NOT to work Hi Alvin, joking apart. :-) .. really what I meant was once I tried to install Debian Woody on an HP server and i

Re: Why are company's not certifying Debian?

2004-10-29 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya On Sat, 30 Oct 2004, Rishi wrote: > This is the response I got from IBM in India... Why are they not > certifying Debian GNU/Linux on their servers? they do atas their told, or they find they behinds on the other side of the ibm door > Is there something Debian as the organization can d

Why are company's not certifying Debian?

2004-10-29 Thread Rishi
Hi, This is the response I got from IBM in India... Why are they not certifying Debian GNU/Linux on their servers? Is there something Debian as the organization can do to get firms like IBM to certify their hardware on it? Regards Rishi -- Forwarded message -- From: Hemanth Ku

Re: nscd: Was Re: long delays with LDAP nss/pam

2004-10-29 Thread Donovan Baarda
G'day, From: "Russell Coker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:56, "Donovan Baarda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I actually run pdnsd. I find it leaner and simpler than named. However, is > > "run named on all hosts" really better than "run nscd on all hosts"? > > That's debatable. S

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.30.0340 +0200]: > of course, you can be a bit looser with with keys if you're > confident that physical access to the machines AND to the network > segment they are on is properly restricted, AND you have firewall > or other access rules to pre

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 12:37:31AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.30.0015 +0200]: > > 3. when a machine is being built or rebuilt, install the correct > > ssh keys in /etc/ssh. they can be fetched via password-protected > > http or https or f

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread Blair Strang
Based on a cursory look at how FAI works, if you're worried about a 'laptop attack' -- i.e, an untrusted person with access to your network media -- I think there are more problems than just SSH keys. None of the tftp/dhcp/pxe stuff is really designed with security in mind. It seems to me that any

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread Mark Ferlatte
martin f krafft said on Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 01:35:33AM +0200: > FWIW, there is no cfengine host (yet). I am still somewhat taken > aback by its complexity. Just reinstalling the machines with FAI > seems simpler and cleaner. Yeah, I haven't gotten around to using it in production either. :) >

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.30.0059 +0200]: > Very little. I would use cfengine to push your ssh keys from your > cfengine host right after FAI. FWIW, there is no cfengine host (yet). I am still somewhat taken aback by its complexity. Just reinstalling the machines with

Re: additional dns search spaces

2004-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.30.0050 +0200]: > DHCP doesn't let you specify the DNS search path. You'll need to > do it some other way, should you desire this functionality. I found -- to my surprise -- that it's possible to have multiple search lines in /etc/resolv.conf

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Martin F Krafft said on Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 07:03:02PM +0200: > As far as I can tell, there remains one problem: we use SSH > hostbased authentication between the nodes, and while I finally got > that to work, every machine gets a new host key on every > reinstallation, requiring the global databa

Re: additional dns search spaces

2004-10-29 Thread Mark Ferlatte
martin f krafft said on Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 10:38:39AM +0200: > In /etc/resolv.conf, the search parameter can take multiple values. > However, when using DHCP, this field is populated by 'option > domain-name', which lists the domain name only, and must not do > anything else, or headless clients

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.30.0015 +0200]: > 3. when a machine is being built or rebuilt, install the correct > ssh keys in /etc/ssh. they can be fetched via password-protected > http or https or ftp or even tftp, then decrypted and untarred. > since they're encrypted y

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 07:03:02PM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote: > As far as I can tell, there remains one problem: we use SSH hostbased > authentication between the nodes, and while I finally got that to > work, every machine gets a new host key on every reinstallation, > requiring the global data

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:38:34 +0200, martin wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > also sprach Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.29.2054 +0200]: > > ..have each node scp those keys and whatever else you want from > > the boot server, say from each node's /etc/rc.local. _Combine_ some >

Re: Restoring /etc

2004-10-29 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Saturday 07 August 2004 01:33, Donovan Baarda wrote: > G'day, > > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Bucciarelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 12:17 AM > Subject: Restoring /etc > > > I screwed up my /etc directory bigtime. I wanted to

Re: nscd: Was Re: long delays with LDAP nss/pam

2004-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.29.1508 +0200]: > It assumes that all DNS servers use the same configuration format, > or that all DNS servers in a given zone run the same software, > which simply is an incorrect assumption. It has suited me just fine. I am thankful that d

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Friday 29 October 2004 16:39, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Mark Bucciarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.29.1920 +0200]: > > what about some kind of cheap usb storage for each machine? > > Then I could just take the USB stick, put it onto my laptop, and > subvert the NFS home directorie

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Mark Bucciarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.29.1920 +0200]: > > what about some kind of cheap usb storage for each machine? > > Then I could just take the USB stick, put it onto my laptop, and > subvert the NFS home directories. Glue it

Re: STP (shielded wires )

2004-10-29 Thread Jesse Molina
Hi You can get out your cable toner tool and see if it picks up the noise by just waving the wand around. Sometimes if a fan or something is putting off noise, it puts off noise across a lot of spectrum and it will be obvious what is causing the noise. The fact that you have multiple systems sh

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mark Bucciarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.29.1920 +0200]: > what about some kind of cheap usb storage for each machine? Then I could just take the USB stick, put it onto my laptop, and subvert the NFS home directories. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the l

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.29.2054 +0200]: > ..have each node scp those keys and whatever else you want from > the boot server, say from each node's /etc/rc.local. _Combine_ some > node hardware based ID schemes, say nics mac addresses, cpuid, etc. How do you suggest t

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:03:02 +0200, Martin wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Dear wizards, > > [I assume cluster stuff to be better here than -user. Please tell me > if you think otherwise] > > We have just converted our 40 node cluster to FAI and now it's > running shiny sarge at the pre

Re: distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Friday 29 October 2004 13:03, Martin F Krafft wrote: > So these are the four possible ways I can think of, and not a single > one is satisfactory. i'm a wizard-wannabe, but i'll reply anyway. what about some kind of cheap usb storage for each machine? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROT

distributing SSH keys in a cluster environment

2004-10-29 Thread Martin F Krafft
Dear wizards, [I assume cluster stuff to be better here than -user. Please tell me if you think otherwise] We have just converted our 40 node cluster to FAI and now it's running shiny sarge at the press of the on button. Thanks to Thomas Lange for a really incredible solution (FAI), and Mark Burg

Re: nscd: Was Re: long delays with LDAP nss/pam

2004-10-29 Thread David Schmitt
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 11:18:45PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > If there was a choice between running only nscd or only named then nscd might > be a reasonable option. But given that every serious network will need a > caching DNS proxy (for which task it's unfortunate that there is nothing >

Re: STP (shielded wires )

2004-10-29 Thread Emmanuel Halbwachs
Hello, Theodore Knab a Ãcrit : I was just wondering if you all use STP in your server rooms. We have been using UTP, but recently I have been getting 'carrier errors' on interfaces in one rack. Well... I use SFTP cords for patch panel, but from wall outlet to server, I use UTP. Note : I use 100 Mb/

STP (shielded wires )

2004-10-29 Thread Theodore Knab
I was just wondering if you all use STP in your server rooms. We have been using UTP, but recently I have been getting 'carrier errors' on interfaces in one rack. After changing the cables to longer coiled UTP cables and tucking the excess in the between the server and rack, carrier errors increa

Re: nscd: Was Re: long delays with LDAP nss/pam

2004-10-29 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:56, "Donovan Baarda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I actually run pdnsd. I find it leaner and simpler than named. However, is > "run named on all hosts" really better than "run nscd on all hosts"? That's debatable. Some people will say that DNS servers are too much of a sec

Re: nscd: Was Re: long delays with LDAP nss/pam

2004-10-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 12:04:51PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.29.1112 +0200]: > > How is djbdns good? In that it doesn't correctly implement the > > RFCs on some crucial parts of the DNS protocol? > > > > (hint: search for 'AXFR' or 'IX

Re: additional dns search spaces

2004-10-29 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Friday 29 October 2004 10.38, martin f krafft wrote: > My question is how to add additional domain names to search when > using dhcp in the smartest possible way. > > We are using resolvconf if it matters. IIRC you can edit the basis resolv.conf template, and add these entries there, somewher

Re: nscd: Was Re: long delays with LDAP nss/pam

2004-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.29.1112 +0200]: > How is djbdns good? In that it doesn't correctly implement the > RFCs on some crucial parts of the DNS protocol? > > (hint: search for 'AXFR' or 'IXFR', and see what mr. Bernstein has > to say about that. No, rsync is /not/

Re: additional dns search spaces

2004-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.29.1126 +0200]: > Most DHCP clients allow you to override configuration sent by the DHCP > server. I am using this on my home LAN server in /etc/dhclient.conf: > > supersede domain-name "grep.be debian.org"; > prepend domain-name-servers 127

Re: additional dns search spaces

2004-10-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 10:38:39AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > In /etc/resolv.conf, the search parameter can take multiple values. > However, when using DHCP, this field is populated by 'option > domain-name', which lists the domain name only, and must not do > anything else, or headless client

Re: Reports on Postfix + Amavis + SpamAssassin”

2004-10-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 09:56:24AM -0300, Federico Lazcano wrote: > Hello everyone: > > I need an advice on reporting in web pages (MRTG-Like) the activities of > a mail system build on Postfix + Amamisd-new + Spamassassin. > > Any clue? > > I'm using Debian Sarge. Try munin. We've been usin

Re: nscd: Was Re: long delays with LDAP nss/pam

2004-10-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 06:10:33PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.28.1520 +0200]: > > Run named on localhost. > > What an extraordinarily bad advice, IMHO. BIND is too much a piece > of crap. > > I really suggest djbdns. I know, it's nonfree

IPv6

2004-10-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 01:00:36PM +0800, Xu Jialing wrote: > Subject: please advice me any good stuff to immegrate debian system to ipv6 network > ? thx Please don't do it that way, this makes properly replying to your message much harder, and it also increases the risk of your mail being filter

additional dns search spaces

2004-10-29 Thread martin f krafft
In /etc/resolv.conf, the search parameter can take multiple values. However, when using DHCP, this field is populated by 'option domain-name', which lists the domain name only, and must not do anything else, or headless clients won't work anymore. The same happens with changing domain-name in /etc/