GUADAGNARE DAVVERO, LEGGI E CAPIRAI !!!!!!!

2002-10-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FAI ATTENZIONE PERCHE' CON QUESTO SISTEMA GUADAGNI DAVVERO ! (se il messaggio vi e' arrivato piu volte scusate ma, …leggetelo…..) Vorresti Davvero Guadagnare con Internet? Bene, la prima cosa da fare è salvare su disco questa pagina per averla a portata di mano anche se il tuo PC no

Re: LSB and Debian, Commercial perspective

2002-10-11 Thread Joey Hess
Marcel Hicking wrote: > Does the LSB _force_ Debian to use rpm? > If not, great! Both LSB certification AND dpkg/apt would be perfect. Again, please read the README.Debian in Debian's lsb package. For example: The "alien" package supports LSB packages on Debian. For example, to install an LS

GUADAGNARE DAVVERO, LEGGI E CAPIRAI !!!!!!!

2002-10-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FAI ATTENZIONE PERCHE' CON QUESTO SISTEMA GUADAGNI DAVVERO ! (se il messaggio vi e' arrivato piu volte scusate ma, …leggetelo…..) Vorresti Davvero Guadagnare con Internet? Bene, la prima cosa da fare è salvare su disco questa pagina per averla a portata di mano anche se il tuo PC n

Re: LSB and Debian, Commercial perspective

2002-10-11 Thread Marcel Hicking
--On Freitag, 11. Oktober 2002 09:06 +1000 Jason Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] Redhat, Mandrake, etc. are the market leaders. Debian can probably never surpass them in terms of numbers. However, if we can at least join the market leaders in getting certified and supported, it'll make a big

Re: LSB and Debian, Commercial perspective

2002-10-11 Thread Joey Hess
Marcel Hicking wrote: > Does the LSB _force_ Debian to use rpm? > If not, great! Both LSB certification AND dpkg/apt would be perfect. Again, please read the README.Debian in Debian's lsb package. For example: The "alien" package supports LSB packages on Debian. For example, to install an L

Re: LSB and Debian, Commercial perspective

2002-10-11 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 09:37:00AM -0700, C. R. Oldham wrote: > Well, some of us do need Oracle for business reasons. And while I'm an > opensource advocate and choose opensource technology whenever it makes alter that to "whenever possible" for me, please. > sense, Oracle is a darned goo

Re: LSB and Debian, Commercial perspective

2002-10-11 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 07:34:14PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 09:06:29AM +1000, Jason Lim wrote: > > I would be interested to see where you get evidence for your statement: > > > > "simply, the cost of mantaining a debian box is > > lower than running a redhat bo

Re: understanding Routing Cisco vs. Linux

2002-10-11 Thread Alexander Bögl
Thedore Knab schrieb: After reading more on this issue, I have decided that I have 2 choices. Use FreeBSD for a Bridging Bandwidth Shaper/ Firewall or use Linux as a Routing/ Bandwidth Shaping firewall. The later seems to be the best idea since I know more about Linux. I found that Linux does pro

Re: LSB and Debian, Commercial perspective

2002-10-11 Thread Marcel Hicking
--On Freitag, 11. Oktober 2002 09:06 +1000 Jason Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Redhat, Mandrake, etc. are the market leaders. Debian can probably never > surpass them in terms of numbers. However, if we can at least join the > market leaders in getting certified and supported, it'll mak

Re: LSB and Debian, Commercial perspective

2002-10-11 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 09:37:00AM -0700, C. R. Oldham wrote: > Well, some of us do need Oracle for business reasons. And while I'm an > opensource advocate and choose opensource technology whenever it makes alter that to "whenever possible" for me, please. > sense, Oracle is a darned go

Re: LSB and Debian, Commercial perspective

2002-10-11 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 07:34:14PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 09:06:29AM +1000, Jason Lim wrote: > > I would be interested to see where you get evidence for your statement: > > > > "simply, the cost of mantaining a debian box is > > lower than running a redhat b

Re: understanding Routing Cisco vs. Linux

2002-10-11 Thread Alexander Bögl
Thedore Knab schrieb: After reading more on this issue, I have decided that I have 2 choices. Use FreeBSD for a Bridging Bandwidth Shaper/ Firewall or use Linux as a Routing/ Bandwidth Shaping firewall. The later seems to be the best idea since I know more about Linux. I found that Linux doe

Re: LSB and Debian, Commercial perspective

2002-10-11 Thread Jason Lim
- Original Message - From: "Emile van Bergen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian isp" Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: Re: LSB and Debian, Commercial perspective Hi, On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 11:21:46AM +1000, Jason Lim wrote: [SNIP] > > Or maybe I don't understand your point

Re: LSB and Debian, Commercial perspective

2002-10-11 Thread Jason Lim
- Original Message - From: "Emile van Bergen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian isp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: Re: LSB and Debian, Commercial perspective Hi, On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 11:21:46AM +1000, Jason Lim wrote: [SNIP] > > Or maybe I don't u

Re: LSB and Debian, Commercial perspective

2002-10-11 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jason Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.11.0106 +0200]: > "simply, the cost of mantaining a debian box is > lower than running a redhat boxen," At three companies I worked, as well as two universities I help out at, the computer staff reported more than 200% more time to concentrate on

Re: LSB and Debian, Commercial perspective

2002-10-11 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 11:21:46AM +1000, Jason Lim wrote: [SNIP] > > Or maybe I don't understand your point ... if you're saying the hardware > > vendor should help you configure your software, I don't want to work > > where you work. > > No... I'm saying, for example, if a particular thing