Re: get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:26:26PM +0200, Joachim Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 37 lines which said: > i have to connect a school to the internet but i have to avoid that the > users(kids) look at certain webpages with criminal and sexual backgrounds Interesting set of value

Re: get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread Robb Kidd
Craig Sanders wrote: > [...] > the correct solution to the problem is teaching the kids to be > responsible, making sure they understand what the rules are for > their internet access, and monitoring them to make sure they're > not getting up to mischief. > > this might mean setting up squid to

Backups across a network, debian->NT

2001-04-22 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
Hi, I have a machine which runs Debian, mail server, et al. Also on the network, (not LAN, but bandwidth is good), is an NT with a Travan IDE. I need to take a backup, infrequently, of the debian. Is there any client-server suite I could use on this congiguration? I need to backup _from_ debia

Re: get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 11:14:21PM +0200, Joachim Schiele wrote: > yes tnx for this advice but, i should have said it, i don't have the > computer-power for running a squid :P we have a 486 with about 32mb or > 16mb ram and 200mb harddrive a 486 with 32MB is adequate for running squid for an entir

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:30:18PM -0400, Jeff S Wheeler wrote: > > If you read up on Private LANs and don't grok it, I could provide an > explaination. The clue level on this thread has been higher than most on > this list (thankfully, stuff like this is why I remain subscribed) but this > is an

Re: get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 12:40:16AM -0400, Robb Kidd wrote: > Craig Sanders wrote: > > a better idea is to have a teacher monitor what's happening with the > > internet terminals while they're in use. > > Would using a filter help if it were configured to alert a supervisor > terminal on sites tha

Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
s/ports/packets/; If "ethernet frame" isn't a better term, which it probably was given the potential to confuse IP packets and ethernet packets, or frames. - jsw -Original Message- From: Jeff S Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 10:30 PM To: debian-isp@lists.d

RE: Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
I stayed in the Philadelphia Central City Marriott a little while ago, and they had a great third-party provided product called STSN(?). It was a little box with an ethernet port that worked instantly with no difficulties. It could assign settings to you based on DHCP if your laptop required that,

Re: get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread Robb Kidd
Craig Sanders wrote: > [...] > the correct solution to the problem is teaching the kids to be > responsible, making sure they understand what the rules are for > their internet access, and monitoring them to make sure they're > not getting up to mischief. > > this might mean setting up squid to

Re: get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread Peter Billson
> i have to connect a school to the internet but i have to avoid that the > users(kids) look at certain webpages with criminal and sexual backgrounds > > is there a possibility to stop that, maybe on the firewall (debian linux) to > block requests like www.sex.de and things (words maybe) like sex,

Backups across a network, debian->NT

2001-04-22 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
Hi, I have a machine which runs Debian, mail server, et al. Also on the network, (not LAN, but bandwidth is good), is an NT with a Travan IDE. I need to take a backup, infrequently, of the debian. Is there any client-server suite I could use on this congiguration? I need to backup _from_ debi

Re: get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 11:14:21PM +0200, Joachim Schiele wrote: > yes tnx for this advice but, i should have said it, i don't have the > computer-power for running a squid :P we have a 486 with about 32mb or > 16mb ram and 200mb harddrive a 486 with 32MB is adequate for running squid for an enti

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:30:18PM -0400, Jeff S Wheeler wrote: > > If you read up on Private LANs and don't grok it, I could provide an > explaination. The clue level on this thread has been higher than most on > this list (thankfully, stuff like this is why I remain subscribed) but this > is a

Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
s/ports/packets/; If "ethernet frame" isn't a better term, which it probably was given the potential to confuse IP packets and ethernet packets, or frames. - jsw -Original Message- From: Jeff S Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 10:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Daemon

2001-04-22 Thread Y2KNET
After few days, I installed Debian 2.2.18, I saw strange deamons and looks some one hacked the kernel. Following are the daemons: root 1 0.0 0.2 1020 460 ?SApr19 0:10 init [2] root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SW Apr19 0:00 [kflushd] root 3

RE: Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
I stayed in the Philadelphia Central City Marriott a little while ago, and they had a great third-party provided product called STSN(?). It was a little box with an ethernet port that worked instantly with no difficulties. It could assign settings to you based on DHCP if your laptop required that

Re: get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread Peter Billson
> i have to connect a school to the internet but i have to avoid that the > users(kids) look at certain webpages with criminal and sexual backgrounds > > is there a possibility to stop that, maybe on the firewall (debian linux) to > block requests like www.sex.de and things (words maybe) like sex

Re: get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread cfm
look up CHIPA at google. You will find various half-assed programs listed. Realistically, if the school is not willing to use this as a learning experience for the students about the big bad world, then you might be better off just unplugging the box. $.02, cfm On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 11:1

Daemon

2001-04-22 Thread Y2KNET
After few days, I installed Debian 2.2.18, I saw strange deamons and looks some one hacked the kernel. Following are the daemons: root 1 0.0 0.2 1020 460 ?SApr19 0:10 init [2] root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?SW Apr19 0:00 [kflushd] root 3

Re: get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread Joachim Schiele
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 22 April 2001 22:48, Tim Sailer wrote: > On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:26:26 Joachim Schiele wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > hello dear list members: > > i have to connect a school to the internet but i have to a

inittab wierdness

2001-04-22 Thread Peter Kemble
I think I got it:   upon egrepping /etc for respawn, there was the /etc/pcmcia/serial script which reads:   echo "S$NR:12345:respawn:$INITTAB $DEVICE" >> /etc/inittab telinit q   I commented out the "telinit q" line, (because that used to cause the same trouble that occured every 5 minutes an

Re: get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread Tim Sailer
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:26:26 Joachim Schiele wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > hello dear list members: > i have to connect a school to the internet but i have to avoid that the > users(kids) look at certain webpages with criminal and sexual backgrounds > > is there a

get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread Joachim Schiele
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hello dear list members: i have to connect a school to the internet but i have to avoid that the users(kids) look at certain webpages with criminal and sexual backgrounds is there a possibility to stop that, maybe on the firewall (debian linux) to b

Re: Web chat

2001-04-22 Thread Cherubini Enrico
Ciao, Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 03:43:16PM -0400, Fraser Campbell wrote: > > I nned to set up a chat-server that can be connected with a web browser > > like Netscape or IE. > Why not use IRC? There are some free java IRC clients and there are lots of > capable (and free) native clients. I'm using Ji

Re: get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread cfm
look up CHIPA at google. You will find various half-assed programs listed. Realistically, if the school is not willing to use this as a learning experience for the students about the big bad world, then you might be better off just unplugging the box. $.02, cfm On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 11:

Re: Web chat

2001-04-22 Thread Fraser Campbell
"Marek L. Kozak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I nned to set up a chat-server that can be connected with a web browser > like Netscape or IE. > Can someone recommend a good (written in C or C++ - not Java) software > for this ? Why not use IRC? There are some free java IRC clients and there are

Re: inet address removed but still in use

2001-04-22 Thread Fraser Campbell
"Jeremy C. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I added an IP (IPs changed for this example): > > ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.197.179 netmask 255.255.255.128 up > > It was listed with "ifconfig -a". > > Then I removed it with: > > ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.197.179 down > > And it was gone (not lis

Re: get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread Joachim Schiele
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 22 April 2001 22:48, Tim Sailer wrote: > On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:26:26 Joachim Schiele wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > hello dear list members: > > i have to connect a school to the internet but i have to

inittab wierdness

2001-04-22 Thread Peter Kemble
I think I got it:   upon egrepping /etc for respawn, there was the /etc/pcmcia/serial script which reads:   echo "S$NR:12345:respawn:$INITTAB $DEVICE" >> /etc/inittab telinit q   I commented out the "telinit q" line, (because that used to cause the same trouble that occured every 5 minutes an

Re: get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread Tim Sailer
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:26:26 Joachim Schiele wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > hello dear list members: > i have to connect a school to the internet but i have to avoid that the > users(kids) look at certain webpages with criminal and sexual backgrounds > > is there

get school connected to the inet

2001-04-22 Thread Joachim Schiele
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hello dear list members: i have to connect a school to the internet but i have to avoid that the users(kids) look at certain webpages with criminal and sexual backgrounds is there a possibility to stop that, maybe on the firewall (debian linux) to

Re: Web chat

2001-04-22 Thread Cherubini Enrico
Ciao, Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 03:43:16PM -0400, Fraser Campbell wrote: > > I nned to set up a chat-server that can be connected with a web browser > > like Netscape or IE. > Why not use IRC? There are some free java IRC clients and there are lots of > capable (and free) native clients. I'm using J

Re: Web chat

2001-04-22 Thread Fraser Campbell
"Marek L. Kozak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I nned to set up a chat-server that can be connected with a web browser > like Netscape or IE. > Can someone recommend a good (written in C or C++ - not Java) software > for this ? Why not use IRC? There are some free java IRC clients and there are

Re: inet address removed but still in use

2001-04-22 Thread Fraser Campbell
"Jeremy C. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I added an IP (IPs changed for this example): > > ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.197.179 netmask 255.255.255.128 up > > It was listed with "ifconfig -a". > > Then I removed it with: > > ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.197.179 down > > And it was gone (not li

Re: tcpserver's response time is too long..

2001-04-22 Thread Cho Yoonbae
Thanks for your article, Alberto. http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp/tcpserver.html -H: Do not look up the remote host name in DNS; remove the environment variable $TCPREMOTEHOST. To avoid loops, you must use this option for servers on TCP port 53. I am using -H option to prevent look up remote hostnam

tcpserver's response time is too long..

2001-04-22 Thread Cho Yoonbae
Hi, I'm using qmail with tcpserver. tcpserver's response time is too long. I input like following line, telnet my.server.domain110 +OK it should open pop connection, but it takes too long time than other pop server. but when I try to do like that to localhost, I can see OK messag

Re: tcpserver's response time is too long..

2001-04-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Cho, Well, i havent used so much tcpserver so -H i really dont remember what that mean. I hope that mean a non-get-canonicalname becouse just u describe (your problem) sounds as a dns problem (tcpserver is waiting for the ip-resolution and the dns-server is not responding so quick it must)

Re: tcpserver's response time is too long..

2001-04-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Cho, Well, i havent used so much tcpserver so -H i really dont remember what that mean. I hope that mean a non-get-canonicalname becouse just u describe (your problem) sounds as a dns problem (tcpserver is waiting for the ip-resolution and the dns-server is not responding so quick it mus

Re: tcpserver's response time is too long..

2001-04-22 Thread Cho Yoonbae
Thanks for your article, Alberto. http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp/tcpserver.html -H: Do not look up the remote host name in DNS; remove the environment variable $TCPREMOTEHOST. To avoid loops, you must use this option for servers on TCP port 53. I am using -H option to prevent look up remote ho

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 07:28:54PM -0700, Ted Deppner wrote: > Hubs (shudder) and switches (even most Cisco stuff) would allow snooping, > break two 10.0.0.1 customers from working, broadcast collisions, gateway > and next hop collisions, etc... > > The concept is the customer is directly connecte

Re: Machine Registration

2001-04-22 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 07:28:54PM -0700, Ted Deppner wrote: > Hubs (shudder) and switches (even most Cisco stuff) would allow snooping, > break two 10.0.0.1 customers from working, broadcast collisions, gateway > and next hop collisions, etc... > > The concept is the customer is directly connect