On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 11:14:21PM +0200, Joachim Schiele wrote: > yes tnx for this advice but, i should have said it, i don't have the > computer-power for running a squid :P we have a 486 with about 32mb or > 16mb ram and 200mb harddrive
a 486 with 32MB is adequate for running squid for an entire school. i used to build school firewall/gateway boxes on 486 boxes a few years ago. it wont be fast, and you'd be much better off with a newer faster bigger machine but it WILL do the job. 200MB hard disk isn't really adequate, though. it should be fairly easy to scavenge up a bigger hard disk and some more RAM - maybe one of the parents has some old "junk" like a 2GB drive and 64MB of 72pin RAM gathering dust in a cupboard. or ask at a local computer shop if they have any old trade-in junk that they'd like to donate. nobody wants this old hardware anymore, it's hardly worth anything. > isn't there a program or a filter for this? in short, no. i've done a lot of work related to this issues over the years, including a few years as sysadmin at an ISP dedicated to providing access to schools. the simple fact is that it can't be done. period. of course, companies that sell censorware software will try to tell you otherwise (with fine-print disclaimers) - but they're all full of bullshit. they're trying to sell their product, not give honest and useful advice. there is no way at all of blocking all "undesirable" sites, and any attempt to do so will inevitably block many perfectly acceptable sites. in other words: 1. it is NOT possible to block all undesirable sites 2. you WILL block perfectly legitimate sites - "collateral damage" e.g. a simple block of the word "sex" will block all sites referring to the English counties "Sussex" and "Essex" and so on - which would be extremely annoying for a student doing a research project on history or geography of England. it would also block sex-education sites and information about safe sex and many other legitimate health/medical sites. there are many other words which contain the letters "s", "e", and "x" which would also be blocked. similarly, if you try to block drug-related sites, then you not only block sites with "bad" information from drug users, you will also block sites about harm minimisation, health risks associated with drugs, and so on...throwing out the good with the "bad" BTW, not all drug-user's sites are "bad" - many of them contain useful safety advice and personal anecdotes about the benefits and dangers of drug use...Just Say "KNOW". the correct solution to the problem is teaching the kids to be responsible, making sure they understand what the rules are for their internet access, and monitoring them to make sure they're not getting up to mischief. this might mean setting up squid to use proxy authentication, and then study the logs every night....and question any students who look like they might be mis-using the internet. the trouble with this is that kids will share (and steal!) each other's passwords and try to get each other in trouble. a better idea is to have a teacher monitor what's happening with the internet terminals while they're in use. craig -- craig sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GnuPG Key: 1024D/CD5626F0 Key fingerprint: 9674 7EE2 4AC6 F5EF 3C57 52C3 EC32 6810 CD56 26F0