On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 03:19:55PM -0700, Brent Fulgham wrote:
> Anyone using the hurd for non-trivial tasks (such as compiling
> large packages, etc.) can attest to the fact that there is a
> noticable difference in speed between the hurd and Linux
> running on the same hardware.
Indeed :)
> I
Hello,
The attached tar file can be extracted on a gnu root partition to give a
poor man's sysvinit replacement. Additionally, you have to make /libexec/rc
a symlink to /etc/init.d/rcS.
Then reboot, and report if it works. Look at the scripts and say what can be
done better. I tried to minimaliz
From: Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fix genhd.c
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:53:31 +0200
> My partition setup on hdc is as follows:
>
> hdc1, primary, 128 MB, Linux swap
> hdc2, primary, ~4 GB, Linux native (my home)
> hdc3, primary, ~1 GB, Linux native (used for Hurd devel)
> h
From: Per Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mounting and more
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:28:50 +0200 (CEST)
> 2) I've installed the Grub 0.5 package as a Debian package, but I haven't
> been able to install Grub as a bootloader on my hard drive. My boot disk
> uses Grub 0.4, and I suspect this i
Anyone using the hurd for non-trivial tasks (such as compiling
large packages, etc.) can attest to the fact that there is a
noticable difference in speed between the hurd and Linux
running on the same hardware.
I was wondering if any profiling had been done to determine
where the time is being spe
> We don't have a klogd, but we have kmesg implemented by Okuji, IIRC. I don't
> know what the status is.
The klogd from the Linux syslogd could be adapted. With the kmsg device
and the same stream device translator needed for keyboards, etc, we will
have a /dev/kmsg that behaves much like /proc/
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 10:23:55PM +0300, Jaakko Niemi wrote:
>
> One thing did cross my mind:
> System logging ? Is there such a thing as klogd for hurd?
> Or can we (finally) (at least for hurd) split sysklogd ;)
Currently we use our own syslogd which is in inetutils. ROland already
suggets
> > are supposed to work for all architectures. This worked fine when
> > ports meant Linux to -alpha, -i386, -mips, etc., but is not working
> > out so well for us with our "hurd-i386" architecture.
>
> I don't see why one should want to use the package system to prevent
> people from installing
> > What does the HURD has to do with the linux-kernel-sources ?
> >
> I could be very, very wrong, but I am going to go out on a limb and
> say that the hurd has absolutely nothing to do with those linux-kernel
> sources. They are most likely links from potato that are mirrored in
> our hurd dir
-Original Message-
From: Roland McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 12:15 PM
To: Brent Fulgham
Cc: Debian-Hurd
Subject: Re: strace/ltrace
>
> I had not before known about ltrace (though naturally it was
> already installed on my Linux system!), and just now lo
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 12:38:00PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> * jed 0.98.7-14
>
> Hey liiwi, this is your favourite editor :)
> (Seems to work, contains also xjed)
YAY! Great many thanks.
One thing did cross my mind:
System logging ? Is there such a thing as klogd for hurd?
Or can we
Title: RE: strace/ltrace
> -Original Message-
> From: Roland McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 12:15 PM
> To: Brent Fulgham
> Cc: Debian-Hurd
> Subject: Re: strace/ltrace
>
>
> > Does anyone know what would be involved in implementing the
> > Linux
> Does anyone know what would be involved in implementing the
> Linux strace/ltrace features on the Hurd? I would find
> these to be tremendously helpful in tracking down problems,
> but I don't know what the level of effort involved would
> be. Any comments?
ltrace and strace are quite differe
I maintain the GNU Nana package (i386), which is a pretty useful set of
tools for locating bugs, tracing, profiling, etc.
This would probably be pretty helpful for some of the stuff we
are trying to get done for the Hurd, so I am going to see if I
can get it packaged on the Hurd.
I'm not sure if
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 12:20:11PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> Brent Fulgham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The only proviso here is that we are using some Linux kernel source
> > for drivers in the hurd But I would advise against downloading
> > these sources.
> >
> > Marcus: Do we have a w
Hello,
screen is an interesting program becuase it gives you several virtual
consoles on the Hurd.
Unfortunately, it still doesn't work right. But we are close!
If you want to help, please apply the following patch first, which is a
temporary hack:
--- ../screen-3.7.4/misc.c Mon Jun 23 22
Does anyone know what would be involved in implementing the
Linux strace/ltrace features on the Hurd? I would find
these to be tremendously helpful in tracking down problems,
but I don't know what the level of effort involved would
be. Any comments?
-Brent
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From: Brent Fulgham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:57:57 -0700
> Anyway, the 0.1.9 version of APT coldn't handle the
> "Architecture" thing
> in apt.conf, so I thought I'd better try compiling the latest version
> myself. After installing debhelper and a lot of ot
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 08:55:17AM -0700, Brent Fulgham wrote:
> I could be very, very wrong, but I am going to go out on a limb and
> say that the hurd has absolutely nothing to do with those linux-kernel
> sources. They are most likely links from potato that are mirrored in
> our hurd directorie
Brent Fulgham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only proviso here is that we are using some Linux kernel source
> for drivers in the hurd But I would advise against downloading
> these sources.
>
> Marcus: Do we have a way to block out some of these types of
> packages?
One way to block out
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 02:00:27PM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote:
>
> The libdb2 on alpha seems to be broken.. and I can't find it in the
> distribution. It would be nice to have a working 'man' package..
I agree, it would be nice to have a working man. We are working on it. db
has some serious probl
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 04:55:24PM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote:
>
> apt-get update went on just fine, and it downloaded the Packages file
> without problems. After it was done updating the database, it returned to
> the prompt (like when you press C-z), and when I did a 'fg' it generated a
> segment
> was linked to a non-existing libshouldbeinlibc.so.. which
> package is this
> in?)
>
I thought this was in libc0.2 packages? Perhaps it's only
in the -devel package?
> Anyway, the 0.1.9 version of APT coldn't handle the
> "Architecture" thing
> in apt.conf, so I thought I'd better try compili
> Well, maybe I didn't understand the HURD Project right, but I thought
> it is _A_UNIX_KERNEL_ . So while I am wget-ting the url
>
> ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-hurd-i386/
>
> I recognized, that there are files like
>
> - kernel-source-2.0.36_2.0.36-3.deb
>
> in
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:35:07 +0200 (CEST)
From: Per Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Mark Kettenis wrote:
>was linked to a non-existing libshouldbeinlibc.so.. which
>package is this in?)
> The Hurd itself.
Actually, it was in hurd-dev. (the .so file,
> >
> > A first thing I was thinking of is ncftp. Has anybody tried this?
>
> Not me. Maybe Brent.
>
Not me either. It would be a good thing to have working...
> > And yeah, another thing; apt-get doesn't seem to know it is
> running on a
> > hurd-i386 architecture and therefore tries to do
On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Mark Kettenis wrote:
>was linked to a non-existing libshouldbeinlibc.so.. which package is this
>in?)
> The Hurd itself.
Actually, it was in hurd-dev. (the .so file, the .so.0.2 was in the hurd
package)
>least get to the configure phase. It said it required libpth
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:55:24 +0200 (CEST)
From: Per Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I just apt-get to work. Well, at least partly. :)
apt-get update went on just fine, and it downloaded the Packages file
without problems. After it was done updating the database, it returned to
th
I just apt-get to work. Well, at least partly. :)
apt-get update went on just fine, and it downloaded the Packages file
without problems. After it was done updating the database, it returned to
the prompt (like when you press C-z), and when I did a 'fg' it generated a
segmentation fault. (I could
"Oliver Elphick" wrote:
>Christopher C Chimelis wrote:
>
> >The tarball on your site is fubar :-( It's only showing as being 2.77 MB
> >or so when it should be more like 5MB.
>
>I exceeded my disk quota. I've changed the link to point to
>ftp.postgresql.org.
The files are now a
Christopher C Chimelis wrote:
>The tarball on your site is fubar :-( It's only showing as being 2.77 MB
>or so when it should be more like 5MB.
I exceeded my disk quota. I've changed the link to point to
ftp.postgresql.org.
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Christopher C Chimelis wrote:
>
>On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Oliver Elphick wrote:
>
>> I have put together a preliminary release of 6.5 (beta2) and the source
>> for it can be obtained from http://www.lfix.co.uk/postgresql. Could you
>> please try to build that and send me any diffs you may n
On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> I have put together a preliminary release of 6.5 (beta2) and the source
> for it can be obtained from http://www.lfix.co.uk/postgresql. Could you
> please try to build that and send me any diffs you may need to make.
The tarball on your site is fubar
The libdb2 on alpha seems to be broken.. and I can't find it in the
distribution. It would be nice to have a working 'man' package..
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:40:02 +0200 (CEST)
From: Per Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > 1) How do I mount a CD? I tried 'settrans /dev/hd1 /hurd/isofs /mnt' and
> > stuff like that, but it doesn't seem to work..
> hat does "doesn't seem
> > A first thing I was thinking of is ncftp. Has anybody tried this?
> Not me. Maybe Brent.
Since it's not in the distribution, I guess it didn't work very well? ;-)
> apt-get works for you?
Yeah, as far as connection to the mirror is concerned. But since it tries
to get the package file from
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 01:40:02PM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>
> > > 1) How do I mount a CD? I tried 'settrans /dev/hd1 /hurd/isofs /mnt' and
> > > stuff like that, but it doesn't seem to work..
> > hat does "doesn't seem to work" mean?
>
> Actually,
On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > 1) How do I mount a CD? I tried 'settrans /dev/hd1 /hurd/isofs /mnt' and
> > stuff like that, but it doesn't seem to work..
> hat does "doesn't seem to work" mean?
Actually, it did work. By the way, how do I remove a translator?
> The isofs transl
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:28:50 +0200 (CEST)
From: Per Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello. Yesterday I decided to give Hurd another try, since I've been
following the Debian GNU/Hurd mailing list for a while. Anyway, it
installed smoothly and everything, but I have a couple of questi
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 01:28:50PM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote:
>
> 1) How do I mount a CD? I tried 'settrans /dev/hd1 /hurd/isofs /mnt' and
> stuff like that, but it doesn't seem to work..
hat does "doesn't seem to work" mean? The isofs translator has only
rudimentary iso9660 support, and needs a
Hello. Yesterday I decided to give Hurd another try, since I've been
following the Debian GNU/Hurd mailing list for a while. Anyway, it
installed smoothly and everything, but I have a couple of questions:
1) How do I mount a CD? I tried 'settrans /dev/hd1 /hurd/isofs /mnt' and
stuff like that, bu
On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 07:23:59PM -0400, Michael Bacarella wrote:
>
> The init scripts attempt to start it, but it isn't running.
> start-stop-daemon ends up exiting with an error about /proc
> (about not being mounted).
>
> While we're here, why is that?
>
> Outdated version of start-stop-daem
On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 08:11:32PM -0400, Roland McGrath wrote:
> > One more question: since when have you been seeing this problem? I
> > didn't hear the problem when I released gnumach-1.1.92, so I suspect
> > that the recent change of gnumach or hurd is the cause.
>
> Perhaps it is just more
Hello,
I am currently uploading a new gnumach with Okujis fix to alpha.gnu.org. I
don't put it in the distribution, because there is something bad with a
header file, my hurd compile last night interrupted because of this.
These packages were uploaded to ERLANGEN, which is an upload queue for
ma
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Format: 1.5
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 00:59:43 +0200
Source: gnumach
Binary: gnumach-dev gnumach
Architecture: source hurd-i386
Version: 1:1.1.92-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Description:
gnumach- The G
Christopher C Chimelis wrote [re postgresql]:
>Speaking of which...I've been working on the Alpha port and have been
>wrestling with 6.4.2 and the 6.5beta1 for awhile now. I finally got it to
>compile and run (using bare upstream source), but using the patched
>source package (directly fro
From: Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fix genhd.c
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 00:56:09 +0200
> Yes, it does. I know because it did occur with all three versions of genhd.c
> I tried (old one, edited (offendingparts removed), and latest corrected
> version).
Thank you! This means I'm
On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 07:23:59PM -0400, Michael Bacarella wrote:
> >I portscanned my system a few minutes ago and it listed
> >ports 21, 23, and 79 open. ftp, telnet, and finger are NOT
> >running and niether is anything like inetd.
> >
> > But inetd had probably been started when yo
> GNU Mach does currently only run on i386/i486/i586 etc platforms, sorry.
There is a mips port of mach4 (the predecessor to gnumach) and the hurd done
by Kazumoto Kojima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. It has not been updated in a
while, and has not been integrated into gnumach. But the code is there for
> One more question: since when have you been seeing this problem? I
> didn't hear the problem when I released gnumach-1.1.92, so I suspect
> that the recent change of gnumach or hurd is the cause.
Perhaps it is just more people using it with a wider variety of partition
setups. Marcus, can you
>I portscanned my system a few minutes ago and it listed
>ports 21, 23, and 79 open. ftp, telnet, and finger are NOT
>running and niether is anything like inetd.
>
> But inetd had probably been started when you booted the Hurd.
The init scripts attempt to start it, but it isn't runnin
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 06:51:14AM +0900, OKUJI Yoshinori wrote:
> From: Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: fix genhd.c
> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:13:00 +0200
>
> > What I still see is a similar error message for extended partitions. It
> > doesn't seem to be harmful, I can boot f
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