Re: italc-rlp integration into Skolelinux (was: Re: LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX))

2011-02-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Patrick, good to see you again! :-) On Freitag, 11. Februar 2011, Patrick Winnertz wrote: > Sorry for the delay, but the newest italc version will be available in the > archive with the next dinstall run.. it's currently in incoming.debian.org yay! > > Another question: do you plan to suppor

Re: italc-rlp integration into Skolelinux (was: Re: LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX))

2011-02-11 Thread Patrick Winnertz
Hey Holger, > On Samstag, 8. Januar 2011, Patrick Winnertz wrote: > > A new italc version 1.0.13 is waiting for a upload as soon as squeeze is > > released. A upload before makes no sense. Squeeze has to live with the > > older version 1.0.9 . > > great to hear that you're still working on italc!

Developer Meeting in Zweibrücken // Re: LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX)

2011-01-09 Thread RalfGesellensetter
Hi Klaus, hello everybody, happy new year to you all! Am Freitag, 7. Januar 2011 schrieb Klaus Knopper: > Me, too. It would be great if some people who have the power to make it > happen, could attend our developer meeting in February in > Zweibrücken/Germany. More about this later. I take this

LINBO and Debian Edu / Skolelinux (Re: LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX)

2011-01-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, a requirement to use LINBO in Debian Edu is that LINBO is in Debian. Something which builds 20 MB binary packages out of 1.2 GB sources will very very probably never be in Debian, so until this has changed, this aspect of the discussion is kind of useless ;-) (Never say never though.) Also

Re: italc-rlp integration into Skolelinux (was: Re: LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX))

2011-01-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Patrick, On Samstag, 8. Januar 2011, Patrick Winnertz wrote: > A new italc version 1.0.13 is waiting for a upload as soon as squeeze is > released. A upload before makes no sense. Squeeze has to live with the > older version 1.0.9 . great to hear that you're still working on italc! As Jonas sa

Re: LINBO integration into Skolelinux (was Re: LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX))

2011-01-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 9. Januar 2011, Christian Kuelker wrote: > As far as I understood Alioth is dedicated to Debian specific > software and packaging. Is Linbo Debian specific? > > @Holger: did the policy changed? I never heard about that policy (so I dont know if and when it changed) and Tux4Kids i

Re: LINBO integration into Skolelinux (was Re: LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX))

2011-01-08 Thread Christian Kuelker
Hi, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi Klaus, > > On Samstag, 8. Januar 2011, Klaus Knopper wrote: >> I've been trying to upload an update with the currentmost version to >> sourceforge for a few weeks now, but always after about 3-4 hours, svn >> commit just dies and gets disconnected from sourceforge. I

Re: LINBO integration into Skolelinux (was Re: LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX))

2011-01-08 Thread Christian Kuelker
Hi, Klaus Knopper wrote: [...] > I've been trying to upload an update with the currentmost version to > sourceforge for a few weeks now, but always after about 3-4 hours, svn > commit just dies and gets disconnected from sourceforge. It seems that > their https svn access is not suitable for that

Re: LINBO integration into Skolelinux (was Re: LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX))

2011-01-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Klaus, On Samstag, 8. Januar 2011, Klaus Knopper wrote: > I've been trying to upload an update with the currentmost version to > sourceforge for a few weeks now, but always after about 3-4 hours, svn > commit just dies and gets disconnected from sourceforge. It seems that > their https svn acce

Re: LINBO integration into Skolelinux (was Re: LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX))

2011-01-08 Thread Klaus Knopper
Hi Mike, On Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 12:59:44AM +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Hi Klaus, > > On Fr 07 Jan 2011 21:40:44 CET Klaus Knopper wrote: > > >For LINBO, we probably don't need to change anything in Skolelinux. > >LINBO consists of a kernel and an initial ramdisk für PXE booting a > >graphical

Re: italc-rlp integration into Skolelinux (was: Re: LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX))

2011-01-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 11:53:20AM +0100, Patrick Winnertz wrote: A new italc version 1.0.13 is waiting for a upload Great! as soon as squeeze is released. A upload before makes no sense. Squeeze has to live with the older version 1.0.9 . Releasing now to experimental makes fine sense! An

Re: italc-rlp integration into Skolelinux (was: Re: LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX))

2011-01-08 Thread Patrick Winnertz
Hey, thanks for the cc, > > Since the original italc in Debian is kind of abandoned and italc2 is, > > as far as I know, not near to be usable, we made a fork of italc that > > contains our addons, which are examination mode and observer > > notifications plus a "loose interface" with cipux for i

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-07 Thread Christian Kuelker
Hi, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Hi Petter, hi Klaus, > > On Fr 07 Jan 2011 11:01:34 CET Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > >> [Klaus Knopper] >>> Hi Petter, >> >> Hi. >> >>> Ok, here I am, at least for LINBO and italc-rlp. What do I need to >>> do now? >> >> I would suggest showing up on IRC to coordinate,

italc-rlp integration into Skolelinux (was: Re: LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX))

2011-01-07 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Klaus, Cc: to winnie AT debian DOT org, Deb Maintainer of iTalc... (2) the Debian italc package and italc-rlp have to checked against each other (I do not known about the differences of italc and italc-rlp and their development history). italc-rlp uses the same mecahnism and packaging as it

LINBO integration into Skolelinux (was Re: LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX))

2011-01-07 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Klaus, On Fr 07 Jan 2011 21:40:44 CET Klaus Knopper wrote: For LINBO, we probably don't need to change anything in Skolelinux. LINBO consists of a kernel and an initial ramdisk für PXE booting a graphical imaging and direct boot console that handles various operating systems. It can be insta

LINBO & italc-rlp integration (Re: Gosa vs. CipUX)

2011-01-07 Thread Klaus Knopper
Hi Mike, On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 04:57:44PM +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Hi Petter, hi Klaus, > > On Fr 07 Jan 2011 11:01:34 CET Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > >[Klaus Knopper] > >>Hi Petter, > > > >Hi. > > > >>Ok, here I am, at least for LINBO and italc-rlp. What do I need to > >>do now? > > >

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-07 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Petter, hi Klaus, On Fr 07 Jan 2011 11:01:34 CET Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Klaus Knopper] Hi Petter, Hi. Ok, here I am, at least for LINBO and italc-rlp. What do I need to do now? I would suggest showing up on IRC to coordinate, to a test installation of the squeeze-test ISOs and fi

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 10:49:32AM +0100, Klaus Knopper wrote: Hi Petter, On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 10:40:38AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Klaus Knopper] > OK. I finally understand, partly. So, every project that wants to > be integrated into Skolelinux, needs to migrate or duplicate its

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 10:58:12AM +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: However, Andreas and I (or whoever else joins in for CipUX/SL or Gosa/SL) should then heavily coordinate our work and make sure even if working on two separate systems that we benefit from each others' work AMAP. Yes! Best way to

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-07 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Klaus Knopper] > Hi Petter, Hi. > Ok, here I am, at least for LINBO and italc-rlp. What do I need to > do now? I would suggest showing up on IRC to coordinate, to a test installation of the squeeze-test ISOs and figure out what need to change on the installed system to integrate the two tools t

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-07 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Christian, On Fr 07 Jan 2011 03:18:03 CET Christian Kuelker wrote: Hi, Mike Gabriel wrote: [...] To me this feels like I digged out quite an issue here... It may be good to come together on e.g. IRC and discuss a common strategy on this, doesn't it? Yes it is some issue, but I think it is

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-07 Thread Klaus Knopper
Hi Petter, On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 10:40:38AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Klaus Knopper] > > OK. I finally understand, partly. So, every project that wants to be > > integrated into Skolelinux, needs to migrate or duplicate its > > sources to the "Skole-SVN". > > Nope, that is a misunder

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-07 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Klaus Knopper] > OK. I finally understand, partly. So, every project that wants to be > integrated into Skolelinux, needs to migrate or duplicate its > sources to the "Skole-SVN". Nope, that is a misunderstanding. Only the code needed in the debian-edu-config package to integrate with the packag

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-07 Thread Klaus Knopper
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 02:39:42AM +0100, Christian Kuelker wrote: > Hi, > > Klaus Knopper wrote: > [...] > > Sorry for potentially making this discussion longer than it should be... > > Would you please explain to me, again, what "the CipUX people" have to > > do, or failed to do, in order to get

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-06 Thread Christian Kuelker
Hi, Klaus Knopper wrote: [...] > I believe that the CipUX developers do use a version management system > that is publically available, like most free software projects, and > probably don't want to duplicate or completely migrate to another > platform... Well, we discussed that earlier, too. I d

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-06 Thread Christian Kuelker
Hi, Mike Gabriel wrote: [...] > To me this feels like I digged out quite an issue here... It may be good > to come together on e.g. IRC and discuss a common strategy on this, > doesn't it? Yes it is some issue, but I think it is OK to mention it. I personally do not feel it make sense to have a d

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-06 Thread Christian Kuelker
Hi, Klaus Knopper wrote: [...] > Sorry for potentially making this discussion longer than it should be... > Would you please explain to me, again, what "the CipUX people" have to > do, or failed to do, in order to get their working packages integrated > into Skolelinux? I think "the CipUX poeple"

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:30:49AM +0100, Klaus Knopper wrote: On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 11:57:29PM +0100, Andreas B. Mundt wrote: On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:44:35PM +0100, Klaus Knopper wrote: > Would you please explain to me, again, what "the CipUX people" have > to do, or failed to do, in orde

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-06 Thread Klaus Knopper
Hi Andreas, On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 11:57:29PM +0100, Andreas B. Mundt wrote: > Hi Klaus, > > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:44:35PM +0100, Klaus Knopper wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 03:48:12PM +0100, Andreas B. Mundt wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 01:01:57PM

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-06 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi, On Do 06 Jan 2011 21:44:35 CET Klaus Knopper wrote: So I started to give GOsa a try. One of the main reasons for me was the use of available software and the idea that a project with limited manpower should focus its coding activities on stuff that's special to the goals (school specific st

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-06 Thread Andreas B. Mundt
Hi Klaus, On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:44:35PM +0100, Klaus Knopper wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 03:48:12PM +0100, Andreas B. Mundt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 01:01:57PM +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: [...] > > Candidates were LWAT used in lenny, unmaintained and with d

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-06 Thread Klaus Knopper
Hi, On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 03:48:12PM +0100, Andreas B. Mundt wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 01:01:57PM +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I want to grab one issue from the current NFS4+Krb5 thread that concerns > > me... > > > > In Germany there is quite an initiative

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-06 Thread Christian Kuelker
Hi, Mike Gabriel wrote: > I want to grab one issue from the current NFS4+Krb5 thread that concerns > me... May be I oversee something here but I do not see the connection between NFS4+Krb5 and CipUX. (or Gosa). > In Germany there is quite an initiative around CipUX and Skolelinux > going on. Now

Re: Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-06 Thread Andreas B. Mundt
Hi, On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 01:01:57PM +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Hi there, > > I want to grab one issue from the current NFS4+Krb5 thread that concerns me... > > In Germany there is quite an initiative around CipUX and Skolelinux > going on. Now I read about Gosa being (probably) used for use

Gosa vs. CipUX

2011-01-06 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi there, I want to grab one issue from the current NFS4+Krb5 thread that concerns me... In Germany there is quite an initiative around CipUX and Skolelinux going on. Now I read about Gosa being (probably) used for user and site management. Both systems probably have their pros and cons, but