proper edit-build-install-test cycle with v3 source packages?

2010-04-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
If I hit a bug in a v1 source package I often do apt-get source foo cd foo-* DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="noopt debug nostrip" dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc sudo debi ../foo*.changes and then run the program inside M-x gdb RET of emacs. If I want to test a possible fix I then just use the same emacs

Re: proper edit-build-install-test cycle with v3 source packages?

2010-04-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Niels Thykier writes: > Have you tried adding "-b" to dpkg-buildpackage as well? Thanks! This seems to work: $ dget http://people.debian.org/~hertzog/packages/debsrc3.0/sample7_1.0-1.dsc $ dpkg-source -x sample*.dsc $ cd sample7-1.0 $ touch -d 1970-01-01 upstream/README $ dpkg-buildpackage -rfa

Re: proper edit-build-install-test cycle with v3 source packages?

2010-04-23 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Raphael Hertzog writes: > Timo, I'd be glad if you could check whether the attached patch fixes the > issue for you. If yes, I'll commit it to dpkg. Doesn't seem to help: $ dget http://people.debian.org/~hertzog/packages/debsrc3.0/sample7_1.0-1.dsc $ dpkg-source -x sample*.dsc $ cd sample7-1.0 $

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-05-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Giuseppe Iuculano writes: > If you can watch youtube html5 video, probably you have installaed > libavcodec52, libavformat52 and libavutil50 from debian-multimedia[1] or > other third repositories. Hmm? Mplayer in debian unstable plays youtube h.264 just fine. No non-free stuff needed: $ youtube

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-17 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Santiago Vila writes: > In either case, if we plan to set default umask in /etc/login.defs or /etc/login.defs is not read when I login to openssh server and it has "UseLogin" set to false. If I enable UseLogin then X11 forwarding stops working [1]. To me it seems that login.defs can not be the on

Re: UPG and the default umask

2010-05-17 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Santiago Vila writes: > Ok, what about PAM? "UsePAM no" is the default in openssh. I do not know if this is just to reduce the attack surface. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: RFA: a lot of packages

2010-06-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ben Armstrong writes: > Although I cannot take on sole maintainership, I'm interested in the > survival of the best VNC server and client in Debian. If a team can > be put together, I would be happy to contribute in what small ways I > can. I'm a daily user of vnc4server/xvnc4viewer 4.1.1+X4.3.0

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-15 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Wouter Verhelst writes: > gets rather large), it generates huge .xsession-errors files that can > cause problems for people with low quotas or for people who actually Indeed. I often find the SD card of my PDA (openmoko) filled with a useless .xsession-errors. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debia

Re: Bugs in Backported Packages

2010-09-07 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Michael Gilbert writes: > Doing a quick look at the backports mailing list archive, there are less > than 10 bugs reported per month on average. That is for hundreds of > packages. Doing some fuzzy math, if you have a package that got > backported, you may see an additional 10/100 = 0.1 bug repor

Re: Marius Vollmer [magit] MIA?

2010-10-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Miles Bader writes: > He's the maintainer of the "magit" package, which doesn't seem to have > received any attention in a long time. Teemu Hukkanen and me are working on packaging a new upstream release. We sent a few patches upstream and upstream agreed to change the build system. Then we notic

Re: securing/monitoring Debian devel environment

2010-12-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Yaroslav Halchenko writes: > script). The only way to completely prevent that would be to develop and > build packages in a completely isolated (virtual machine) environment Interesting ideas but don't you also need to run the produced binaries in isolation? If we assume a malicious upstream they

Re: Auditing systems for default homedir permissions and other potential security risks and also for overly long subjects and needlessly antagonistic mailing list discussion threads

2011-02-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Lars Wirzenius writes: > The auditor then looks for things in the system, and in home > directories, which might be problems. For example, if it's meant to be a > mail server with a lot of security, having telnetd installed and running > would be a problem for it to flag. Likewise, it might flag h

Re: Wanted: maintainer for git's emacs support

2011-02-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Rémi Vanicat writes: > If there should be a change in maintenance of magit, I would be very > interested because I'm one of the main upstream developer. Sorry for being quiet about this but see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/10/msg00043.html Now that squeeze has released I think thi

Re: enable/disable flags in /etc/default

2011-03-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Tollef Fog Heen writes: > The problem was at least until update-rc.d grew the «disable» argument > that disabling a daemon using update-rc.d was quite hard. update-rc.d foo disable is indeed convenient. update-rc.d and policy-rc.d are currently two separate interfaces. If I want to make sure tha

Re: enable/disable flags in /etc/default

2011-03-09 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Serafeim Zanikolas writes: > sysv-rc-conf works for any symlink-based system. If you want to make sure that only carefully chosen services are ever running then you still need to maintain your own /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d and keep it in sync with sysv-rc-conf. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-d

Re: Setting file capabilites of files shipped in binary packages

2011-03-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Sebastian Harl writes: > Imho, setting the file capability is a nicer approach than setting the > setuid bit. Do you know about any lurking bugs (in udev, dbus, etc?) that could allow one to escalate CAP_NET_RAW to full root privileges in regular squeeze installations? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: enable/disable flags in /etc/default

2011-03-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Serafeim Zanikolas writes: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:59:46AM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: >> If you want to make sure that only carefully chosen services are ever >> running then you still need to maintain your own /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d > > For symlink-based init s

Re: enable/disable flags in /etc/default

2011-03-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Michael Biebl writes: > Not true. If a service has been disabled (by renaming S* to K*) invoke-rc.d > honours that and does not start the service. Interesting. With $ echo /etc/rc*/*avahi-daemon /etc/rc0.d/K02avahi-daemon /etc/rc1.d/K02avahi-daemon /etc/rc2.d/K02avahi-daemon /etc/rc3.d/K02avahi-

devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

2012-04-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Hello, I think I found a bug in devotee (debian vote engine) that breaks the secrecy elections. Devotee can be used in either public or secret mode. Leadership elections are done in the secret mode (constitution 5.2.5). In this mode devotee gives each voter V a secret moniker M and publishes only

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

2012-04-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Jakub Wilk writes: > Note that 8 random alphanumeric characters can have at most ~47.6 bits > of entropy. So just improving RNG wouldn't help here. True. We need to both fix the RNG and use a longer moniker. Also, I just noticed that rand() is also used to randomize the order of votes in the fin

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

2012-04-26 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Timo Juhani Lindfors writes: > votes in the final tally. If I knew the hashes sufficiently many (maybe > 20?) voters I probably could predict the initial state of the RNG and > reverse this randomization step completely. It seems that if you know the md5 hashes of only four peopl

Re: thttpd

2012-04-26 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Oleg writes: > What email i can use to send patch for thttpd to? > And is it normal that i cann't see thttpd package in wheezy? >From http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/thttpd.html you can see that it has been removed: "RoQA; orphaned, RC-buggy, dead upstream, plenty of alternatives exist" --

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

2012-04-26 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Raphael Geissert writes: > print hmac_sha1_hex($v, $m); Yeah that sounds promising. Now we just need to fix the code that tries to randomize the order of entries in the tally. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact li

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Steve McIntyre writes: > At this point, I'm skeptical that either of the first two are going to > work acceptably with Wheezy. If that's the case, then we should warn > people that they will need to use at least one of: I agree. I tried installing debian gnome desktop from CD1 during last debconf

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Wookey writes: > And the USB-stick process is not as simple as it might be because you > have to find the HD-media files and then _also_ find an iso image to > put on. It's no wonder newbs are still downloading CD/DVD images. You also need to have root access to some machine to create the USB me

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ben Armstrong writes: > accomplish as the superuser.) What I wonder, though, is if it is > universally true that ordinary users will always have write access to a > USB key they've just inserted. Under what circumstances will they not? At least in default debian and ubuntu systems they don't have

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-16 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Bjørn Mork writes: > No, you don't. On a default Debian system you need to be a member of > the "floppy" group. From /lib/udev/rules.d/91-permissions.rules : Yeah but you are not a member of that group by default surely? > You mean that they allow you to burn a CD but not write to a USB > stic

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-16 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Bjørn Mork writes: > I fail to see how burning to a local user's CD is any better, but yes, > if that is a consideration then they need some system to tie the rights > to console access. I believe ConsoleKit and the replacement > systemd-loginctl attempts to solve such problems. Yes, I believe u

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-16 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Jonathan Nieder writes: > speaking lets each user access media that they have inserted. Last > time I checked[1] (a while ago), the same rules did not apply to USB > sticks. Yes, this is the point I was trying to make in the first place :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@list

Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs is fine

2012-05-28 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Miles Bader writes: > bazillion packages in debian that blithely cache vast quantities of > (often very uninteresting) data in random subdirs of $HOME... and then Fortunately there is some movement towards the use of XDG_CACHE_DIR (defaults to ~/.cache). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-deve

Re: Starting services automatically after install

2012-06-03 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Aaron Toponce writes: > By default in Debian, when a service package is installed, such as > openssh-server, or isc-dhcp-server, it starts the service. This seems > counter-intuitive to me. As you mentioned, this is a really old issue. I've documented my personal solution at http://bugs.debian.o

Re: gnome is completely f^Mmessed up

2012-06-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Florian Reitmeir writes: >> Is this a joke? Are we going to release that in June/July/whenever? > i use gnome too, and for me its working very stable, and gnome3 is way > better than gnome2. I installed wheezy to my old laptop a few months ago and was very happy with gnome too. Maybe the breakage

Re: gnome is completely f^Mmessed up

2012-06-11 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Luke Cycon writes: > I have the added issue that GNOME seems to (somehow) manage to spawn in > excess of 100 Xserver when I try to log in. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650183 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: [RFC] Add upstream VCS info to control file

2012-06-15 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Gregor Jasny writes: > Does this sound reasonable? Yes. Please also read the earlier thread http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/04/msg00356.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.or

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Steve McIntyre writes: > Back in May I warned about CD sizes[1] for the Wheezy release, > pointing out that CD#1 isn't big enough any more to provide usable > Gnome or KDE installations. Indeed. CD1 was really problematic in squeeze too: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/08/msg00172.html

Re: RFC: Why are so many debian packages outdated?

2012-07-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Svante Signell writes: > NMUs should be made/allowed/encouraged? I know all packaging is made by > volunteers at their spare time, but anyway. Debian is one of the best > distributions, what about raising the bar a little higher? The only way you can really improve the situation is to help with t

Re: Recommends for metapackages

2012-07-13 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Miles Bader writes: > issues with NM: it doesn't seem to be tested with much in the way of > non-standard setups My personal feeling is that this happens because people who use non-standard setups usually start by purging NM instead of trying to spend weeks reading the source code to contribute

Re: Debian stickers

2012-07-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Neil Williams writes: > The biggest problem is that none of the arbitrary strings which get > printed on the packaging, product specs or even on the hardware itself > have any direct link to the actual chipsets used and it is the chipsets > which determine support. Most manufacturers have no inter

Re: RFC: Why are so many debian packages outdated?

2012-07-26 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Jon Dowland writes: > I disagree. Maybe my statement was overly general indeed. I certainly agree with > There is work to be done to make Debian attract more contributors. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listm

Re: [OT] ifconfig(8)

2012-08-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ivan Shmakov writes: > Curiously enough, ifconfig(8) shows RX/TX byte counts, and, > somehow, I didn't manage to get a similar output from iproute. > Any pointers? TIA. $ ip -s link show lo 1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 0

Re: Bug#684726: ITP: check_v46 -- Icinga / Nagios plugin for dual stacked (IPv4 / IPv6) hosts

2012-08-29 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Christoph Anton Mitterer writes: > Each package depends on exactly what it needs to work and recommends > anything which adds e.g. additional features but doesn't cause > non-graceful breakage if missing. I guess that really depends on what non-graceful breakage means. I personally assume that no

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

2012-08-31 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Thomas Goirand writes: > If I need to have /usr mounted before init starts, then I'm more > or less dead, and I'll have to get a recovery CD / USB. Not completely. Just boot with break=premount and read /etc/lvm from the initramfs shell. I've done this several times. The cool part is that you can

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Wookey writes: > And navit and marble and foxtrotGPS and gpsdrive and viking and > gpxviewer and memphis. Hey you forgot monav :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://list

Re: "Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

2013-05-27 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ondřej Surý writes: > affects bug-improve I'd put such pseudo packages to a separate namespace. Some package might, while unlikely, be called "bug-improve" in the future. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: security policy / root passwords

2013-06-09 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Daniel Pocock writes: > My feeling is that the user should be told "go and run sudo or su in a > terminal window you opened manually" I don't think terminal emulation is really a good solution here but your idea does have some merits. Maybe you can make your own policykit agent that asks for the

Re: security policy / root passwords

2013-06-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Michael Banck writes: >> I think the best approach would be sudo and requesting the user for >> their own password - and probably be more informative about why the >> password is needed or what is being installed. > > By the way, this seems to be the case for my wheezy installation, > however, I a

Re: security policy / root passwords

2013-06-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Simon McVittie writes: > * ability to use system-modal prompting or a secure input path > (partially done by PK under GNOME Shell, likely to get better > under Wayland, not supported by sudo or su) Not relevant to the current discussion but this got me curious: can the input path

Re: jessie release goal: verbose build logs

2013-06-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Matthias Klose writes: > This doesn't really help when trying to diagnose things, and even for > successful > builds it's valuable to have the complete build log, including the parts how > the > upstream build system is called from the Debian packaging. This is a useful goal. However, since fix

Re: vision: easily move all my data and config to a new machine

2013-06-23 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Thomas Koch writes: > I've started by building debian packages with equivs that have dependencies > to > all packages that I've installed by hand on my old machine.[1] This is not > comfortable. https://github.com/devstructure/blueprint might help you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-de

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Alexandre Rebert writes: > wheeze packages. After contacting ow...@bugs.debian.org, Don Armstrong > advised us to contact you before submitting ~1.2K bug reports to the > Debian BTS using mainto...@bugs.debian.org (to avoid spamming > debian-bugs-dist). Interesting research, thanks a lot for your

Re: download of source packages alarmed clamav

2013-06-25 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Harald Dunkel writes: > I doubt that sending a virus complies to the DFSG, so the question > is whether these source packages have been compromised? The test/ directory in pymilter_0.9.3.orig.tar.gz contains some sample viruses on purpose. I can't comment on other source packages since you didn't

Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > I am sorry, but in my eyes, people who claim that PulseAudio is useless > simply don't realize that there can be sound setups which are a little > more sophisticated than just a single sound card and configuring > these can be PITA when you don't have PA. Simpl

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Didier Raboud writes: > Let's also note as context that the goal of this trick (AFAIUI) is to avoid > having a tcl interpreter pulled up to first CDs; The modemmanager package that people typically use with USB 3G modems is already in CD#5. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lis

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ian Jackson writes: >> The modemmanager package that people typically use with USB 3G modems is >> already in CD#5. > > Isn't that already a problem ? It is, I just tried to illustrate how bad the situation currently is: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/08/msg00349.html -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: udev: what does it used for in Debian?

2011-10-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ivan Shmakov writes: > And what the initramfs-tools package has to do with consistent > devices' filenames? Initramfs runs udev. This allows you to use e.g. root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD3200AAJS-65B4A0_WD-WMAT13954017-part1 instead of root=/dev/sda1 to specify where your root fi

Re: /tmp as tmpfs and consequence for imaging software

2011-11-13 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Lars Wirzenius writes: > and b) all software must deal with out-of-disk-space errors in a > sensible way (where the exact details may depend on the software). That does not seem to be so easy: http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/slides/jim-meyering-goodbye-world.pdf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ben Hutchings writes: > 5. AMD/NSC Geode GX1, Geode SC1100, Elan SC4xx and SC5xx Does this mean that "AMD Geode LX" as mentioned in http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm still works? damager:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 5 model : 10 m

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-11-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Kai Wasserbäch writes: > installations with CPUs with an instruction set < 586 are still in use? Does > popcon collect such information? popcon does not but smolt does. Unfortunately smotl ITP is still stuck. Meanwhile you can look at the data it has collected from opensuse and fedora users: ech

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

2011-12-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Wookey writes: > this is not waste time with an intramfs that will soon be superceded > with a pivot-root. Not really related to the main issue but do note that pivot_root syscall has not been used for quite some time. run-init basically just uses unlink, mount, chroot and execve. > Most arm boo

Bug#651575: general: usb drive (automount) has wrong permissions, regular user cannot read/write to device/folder

2011-12-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
"kenneth.h" writes: > It appears from web searching that this may have to do with udev rules. > Usually, automounting allows user access but I am not able to read/write w/out > having to manually changing permissions. 1) What are the permissions? 2) How are you automounting? The usual udisks way

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

2012-01-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Russell Coker writes: > Do we have Debian running on phones with a configuration such that the root > filesystem is small but /usr can be bigger? My openmoko has just $ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on rootfs 3.8G 3.0G 626M 83% / tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0

Re: Enabling package installation for non-root users

2012-02-23 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Josselin Mouette writes: > (We even have a patch to allow only a subset of packages but it is > unfortunately a bit too hackish.) Would be really nice to have some standard sets available (think "browser extensions", "command-line tools that ship no services or suid binaries"). I'd certainly let

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-23 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Russell Coker writes: > Is there any way of capturing the old text output from /dev/console at a > later > stage in the boot? I personally use http://iki.fi/lindi/git/vtgrab-initramfs.git/ which starts rvcd (remote virtual console daemon) in the beginning of initramfs and lets me monitor and

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Svante Signell writes: > policy? While at the time supporting non-linux systems (like kFreeBSD > and Hurd, and others to come) I understood that Hurd does not use sysvinit either. Is that still the case? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsub

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-26 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Josselin Mouette writes: > Or, as has been said countless times otherwise: kFreeBSD should not > hinder the improvement of the Linux ports. I agree. I also vaguely recall that we this was the consensus that we reached at the kfreebsd BoF Debconf. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ..

Re: Enabling package installation for non-root users

2012-02-26 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Sebastian Heinlein writes: > APTDAEMON::Restrict::Users { "joe", "jane"; }; > APTDAEMON::Restrict::Tags::Allow { "interface::shell"; }; > APTDAEMON::Restrict::Tags::Deny { "interface::daemon"; }; > > Would this be of any help to you? Sounds like a great start. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debia

Re: A few questions from a new DD

2012-02-29 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
olivier sallou writes: > 1) How can I send email using my @debian.org as origin ? That depends on the software you use. In "gnus" I have (setq user-mail-address "timo.lindf...@iki.fi") In evolution you'd select Edit->Preferences->Mail Accounts->New and just fill the "Email address" field. >

Re: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Reinhard Tartler writes: > the libdvdread maintainer removed that really handy script. Not really related but it did have a security issue: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=554772 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-17 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Thomas Goirand writes: > taked with a friend working for redhat, and he told me how much > he hates it. He told me that if *anything* goes wrong in the boot > process, then basically, you're stuck, because the next thing will http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Systemd_problems seems to c

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Svante Signell writes: > How on earth would anybody be able to make a decision if there are no > comparisons between the alternatives available? I personally decided to install systemd to one of my machines to learn how it works. I'd recommend this to anyone in this thread that has never used sys

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-23 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Samuel Thibault writes: > the particular script that poses problem. With a deamon like systemd, > it's rather all-or-nothing. This gives me the impression that systemd would be a single monolithic binary but isn't vconsole-setup.c that you mention actually part of a small helper binary at /lib/sy

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages

2012-10-28 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Philip Ashmore writes: > Debug packages also make back-traces more than useless, and They also allow systemtap to probe userland binaries once http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=691167 is fixed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "

Bug#693695: general: "error while loading shared libraries" on system upgrade

2012-11-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
forcemerge 685243 693695 thanks Victor Porton writes: > /usr/lib/vlc/vlc-cache-gen: error while loading shared libraries: > libvlccore.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or > directory I did a google search with "libvlccore.so.5: cannot open shared object file" you found this has

Re: Mass bug filling about proprietary code of adobe in our type1 fonts

2012-11-25 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Bastien ROUCARIES writes: > I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of adobe > in fonts hinting that is included in our fonts. If you report them at this stage of the release cycle and there's no easy solution I guess wheezy-ignore could be in order? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: "Do not CC me"

2012-11-25 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vincent Danjean writes: > Not always. My ISP (French "Free/Proxad") seems to filter mail with > the same Message-ID sent in a few period of time (a few minutes?) Interesting, this could explain the oddities that I've seen too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: unsafe use of gpg

2012-12-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ansgar Burchardt writes: > I recently looked at several packages using gpg to verify signatures Thanks for your work! Please try to raise this upstream so that they can provide proper interfaces. Is /usr/bin/gpgv --quiet --keyring /etc/myprogram/trusted.gpg file file.sig chmod a+x file ./file

Re: unsafe use of gpg

2012-12-14 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Peter Samuelson writes: > Note that this adds a keyring to the current list. If the intent > is to use the specified keyring alone, use --keyring along with > --no-default-keyring. You probably read "man gpg" but gpgv is simpler: gpgv: Invalid option "--no-default-keyring" -- To U

Re: Linux Future

2013-01-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Josselin Mouette writes: > Yet full of misinformation, like the idea that using D-Bus makes a > service less scriptable (while the reality is a complete opposite) I was bit puzzled by this part too but I guess the author meant mostly shell scripts here. If one uses e.g. python then dbus is often

Re: Linux Future

2013-01-23 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Josselin Mouette writes: > You might find this useful: > http://np237.livejournal.com/33449.html > > I made this presentation in the hope to make such things easier to > understand for the sysadmin. I read that back then when you originally posted it and I still think it's one of the most useful

Re: tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

2013-01-28 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: >> Has anybody already written a tool to automatically create the files section >> of the debian/copyright file? The tool should try to keep the files list >> short >> by using wildcards. http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/git/git-copyright-scan.git/ Normal invocation:

Re: WebRTC has landed

2013-02-23 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Daniel Pocock writes: > JavaScript and give users of their package the ability to click'n'call > other users within the web page. Have you had time to study how the technology works? If both parties are behind a HTTP proxy (for example at an airport or cafe with WIFI) I think you need some third

Re: WebRTC has landed

2013-02-23 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Daniel Pocock writes: > - WebSockets carries the SIP signaling (e.g. to register the user > location, find the person you want to call). WebSockets works through > HTTP proxies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC does not mention SIP at all. I assume SIP is just one way to use webrtc but it does

Bug#702264: #702264 general: My mouse is a 3-button wheel mouse but system only recognizes 2 buttons (no wheel)

2013-03-04 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Hi, please provide some more information: 1) contents of the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log 2) output of the "xev" command when you click each button and try to scroll 3) output of the "lsusb" command Also, you are reporting the bug against debian 6.0.7. It is very unlikely that any bugs are going

Re: history transparency

2013-03-15 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Philip Ashmore writes: > Is there a web interface for that, or a script that can do this? debsnap -a is quite useful. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian

Bug#704054: /etc/environment.d

2013-03-28 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
adrelanos writes: > Thanks, I can think of other solutions, it's just that I find this .d > structure really clean, beautiful and simple to use. I personally would rather prefer a library interface so that it is possible to change the storage backend in the future. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

2013-03-30 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Kurt Roeckx writes: > I just pushed a change for this issue to my git repo at: > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/kroeckx/devotee.git;a=summary > > I would be grateful if people can review that. commit e7f81870d1f8b18e5dcc855e9a001fab95112c0f (Fix generation of secret key for secret vote

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

2013-03-31 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Kurt Roeckx writes: >> - md5_hex("$name $alias obfuscate\n"), "\n"; >> + hmac_sha256_hex($name, "obfuscate"), "\n"; >> >> part probably needs some further work. Should it be >> >> + hmac_sha256_hex($name, $alias + "obfuscate"), "\n"; > > This is for the dummy sheet. I

Re: Physical page zeroing on allocation

2013-04-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Viacheslav Fedorov writes: > But let's say I trust my environment. Then why when I disable zeroing of > the allocated pages, the applications crash in libc? How did you disable it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

Bug#704482: #704482 general: file copy over kde gui or cp to an usb devices (tried fat/ext3) is showen as finshed while it's still copying

2013-04-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
package general severity 704482 wishlist tags 704482 -patch reassign 704482 konqueror thanks For "cp" this is not a bug, you are supposed to umount the filesystem before you remove the usb device. Nothing in "man cp" guarantees that the file has been copied to the disk when the command exits. For

Re: alternative debian/rules

2013-04-22 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Jakub Wilk writes: > Thorsten, you should have kept your custom debian/rules. If it > prevented incompetent developers from NMUing the package, then all > good for you and for Debian. Was there perhaps some emoticon missing? Uncommon debian/rules setups might be required in some cases but surely

Bug#706466: general: graphical applications launch in wrong session

2013-04-30 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
"Kevin Yochum" writes: > 1. Log in locally (gnome non-root login) > 2. Install latest Google Chrome, if not already installed > 3. Log in to the same system remotely with the same login (I use NetSarang > XManager 4 from a Windows system) The bug might also be in "NetSarang XManager 4". Please t

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-03 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
"Bernhard R. Link" writes: > Once we drop that and only give people the right to modify the > software we distribute but no longer the possiblity to do so > on their own, the "Free" we are so proud on gets mood. Doesn't pbuilder make it easy enough for anyone to modify and build the software on t

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-07 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Raphael Hertzog writes: >> provided as a hook. You also might want to look at the >> policyrcd-script-zg2 package. >> > Except for chroots that do not run the boot-time scripts, this mechanism > is mostly useless. /etc/init.d/rc doesn't know about policy-rc.d and thus > you can't use it to disable

Re: wheezy postmortem re rc bugfixing

2013-05-09 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Lucas Nussbaum writes: > Also, we should be more agressive at getting down the number of RC bugs > by automatically removing RC-buggy not-so-important packages. This sounds like a good idea. If somebody is interested in the package they can easily reintroduce it after they have fixed the bug. -

Re: Merging / and /usr

2013-05-09 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Marc Haber writes: > Isn't that the one that doesn't even have a shell history or tab > completion? At least in squeeze I have both. Try booting with e.g. break=top to see yourself. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Cont

Re: jessie release goal: verbose build logs

2013-11-13 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Stéphane Glondu writes: >> http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/structured-buildlogs/logs/hello-2.6-1_amd64.build > > How do you do that exactly? Can't remember the exact details but you can get the script with git clone http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/git/structured-buildlogs.git/ -Timo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: home directories on porter machines to be pruned automatically

2014-01-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Luca Filipozzi writes: > A couple of weeks ago, we started automatically mailing users whose home > directories were above a dynamic notification threshold. This dynamic I wouldn't mind getting an overview of my disk space usage even if I am not over the threshold. Is that information available

Re: strace behavior under debian wheezy

2014-03-16 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
GALAMBOS Daniel writes: > Are there any way to acquire the signal sender's PID? stap -x $pid /usr/share/doc/systemtap-doc/examples/process/sigmon.stp SIGTERM shows you the process that sends SIGTERM to the process whose PID is $pid. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debia

Re: Back to technical discussion? Yes!

2011-04-04 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ben Armstrong writes: > once they manage to make it work, I've *still* seen cafe connections > fail on my lovingly hand-crafted wpa_cli + wpa_supplicant setup that > succeed when I reboot to a Squeeze GNOME live image with NM. I to this > day have not been able to figure out why. You might have h

Re: rock around hwclock.sh

2011-04-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
"Andrew O. Shadoura" writes: > iii) Also, it would be good to hear opinions about negative > consequences of saving the system time to the RTC on frequent basis. My openmoko does a suspend/resume cycle every 10 minutes. RTC time can only be set at one second granularity. If I write to RTC on ever

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