Unresolved symbols with ibmtr_cs PCMCIA module

1997-06-14 Thread Stephen Zander
Further in my attempts to setup up a Thinkpad 760CD... When attempting to load the ibmtr_cs.o mdules under the standard 2.0.30 kernel, I get the folliowing unresolved symbols. netif_rx_R9117ffb8 dev_alloc_skb_R24e337ab dev_kfree_skb_R7a61ae71 dev_tint_Rcc72f6b2 unregister_netdev_Re5a9d51a regist

Re: Unresolved symbols with ibmtr_cs PCMCIA module

1997-06-16 Thread Stephen Zander
Brian Mays wrote: > This is caused by an incompatibility between the pcmcia modules and > the kernel's configuration. I've created new packages that fix this > problem (pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules-2.0.30-7, both version 2.9.6-1) > that currently are waiting to be included in the distribution. I

Re: Unresolved symbols with ibmtr_cs PCMCIA module

1997-06-16 Thread Stephen Zander
Brian Mays wrote: > If anyone needs these packages now, before they can be included into > the distribution, send me a message and I can e-mail them using either > MIME encoding or uuencode. Could I ftp copy from somehwere? My fire-wall gets sensetive about large mailings Stephen --- "Normality

XFree86 build info

1997-06-27 Thread Stephen Zander
Due to dubious support for the tgui9320lcd in XFree 3.3, I'm in the process of building my own (to be released if it's ever successful). Before I start down this (long?) road, I thought I'd ask a couple of quick questions. 1. Does debian include any additional drivers on top of the standard XFre

[OFF-TOPIC] Re: not a first amendment question

1997-12-01 Thread Stephen Zander
Petri Wessman wrote: > Sigh, someday I'll probably understand the American mentality when it > comes to sex (and equating it with violence on the "ooo, bad stuff" > scale). When you do, let me know (and I live there - thought I'm not one) :) Stephen --- "Normality is a statistical illusion." --

Changing Project Leadership (was: Debian Commercial Support)

1997-12-03 Thread Stephen Zander
Bruce Perens wrote: > Now that I am leaving the project leader position, I have some options > open to me that would have been conflicts of interest for before... I assume this means that the results are in from the recent election. Was there any intention of announcing this to this list or did it

Re: Changing Project Leadership (was: Debian Commercial Support)

1997-12-03 Thread Stephen Zander
Kindly ignore my last blather. I am now subscribed to debian-announce. Stephen --- "Normality is a statistical illusion." -- me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: `COAS'

1997-12-04 Thread Stephen Zander
Behan Webster wrote: > *sigh*... not diety, Deity. >^^ > I wish people would learn to spell. This is one of the exceptions to > the "i before e" rule. That's what comes from people not learning Latin at school anymore :) Stephen --- "Normality is a statistical illusion."

Re: Linking (ld) problem with package.

1997-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
Rob Browning wrote: > > I'm trying to improve some stuff in the rscheme package, and I have > several shared libraries (for rscheme internal use only), that I need > to glom together into one big shared library -- i.e. I want the > collected library to contain all the code from the sub-libraries -

Re: Linking (ld) problem with package.

1997-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
Rob Browning wrote: > Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Do you only have access to the sub-libraries as *.so files? > > Yes. Using libelfg0-dev seems like the likeliest sucessful approach. I'll play with it on the way home tonight (I hope) if I can

Re: Duplicate messages on this list

1997-12-09 Thread Stephen Zander
Tyson Dowd wrote: > As an aside, when munging reply-tos, if there is an existing reply to, > why not set the From: to that address. > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Becomes: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

Re: libc6 2.0.6 coredumps portmap (was Re: Libc6 2.0.5c has a leak in inet_ntoa)

1997-12-10 Thread Stephen Zander
David Engel wrote: > This is a known problem. I'm waiting for Peter Tobias to figure it > out. He's been out of town a lot lately so it's taking hime a while. On a related note, the -lpthread lib has a bug (tickled by the latest development perl). I've taken thet patch for the stand-alone pthre

Re: glibc pre-release 2.0.6-0.3

1997-12-10 Thread Stephen Zander
David Engel wrote: > I've put another experimental pre-release of glibc-2.0.6pre3 at > ftp://ftp.ods.com/pub/linux. Please test it and let me know how it > works. Does this include any new patches from Ulrich? Stephen --- "Normality is a statistical illusion." -- me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THI

Re: Why does gcc no longer link .sos with -lc by default?

1997-12-10 Thread Stephen Zander
Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > The difference seems to be that the gcc on the alpha is linking in > -lgcc -lc -lgcc, where gcc on the i386 is just doing -lgcc twice. > > So which is right, and if it's the i386, since moving to gcc-2.7.2.3 > isn't an option for the alphw, does anyone know enough abou

Re: glibc pre-release 2.0.6-0.3

1997-12-10 Thread Stephen Zander
David Engel wrote: > It is based on Ulrich's pre3 release. The previous one was based on > Ulrich's pre2 release. So if you mean has anything changed since the > last Debian experimental release, then yes. That was exactly what I meant. Have just installed it, will let you know if anything brea

Re: debian-kbd needs M4 hacker

1997-12-29 Thread Stephen Zander
"Marco d'Itri" wrote: > The debian-kbd list needs some help from an experienced M4 guru. > I wrote the macros to generate keyboard tables, but some of them do not > work. We need someone to debug them, otherwise we can't progress. > The macro set is about 150 lines. Did you get an answer or do you

Re: Yet another glibc pre-release

1997-12-29 Thread Stephen Zander
David Engel wrote: > I've put another pre-release of glibc 2.0.6 (pre5) at > ftp://ftp.ods.com/pub/linux. > > Please note that I will be out of town for the rest of the week. Any > problems will have to wait until I return on Saturday. The libc6-dbg package has a problem. A simple test: $ cat t

Re: Yet another glibc pre-release

1997-12-29 Thread Stephen Zander
David Engel wrote: > Use -profile instead of -pg/-lc_p when profiling, e.g. > $ gcc -profile -o t t.c Thanks! That makes it a gcc bug instead. :) (-profile is not mentioned anywhere in the docs.) Stephen --- "Normality is a statistical illusion." -- me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST:

non-hub 10baseT connections

1997-12-29 Thread Stephen Zander
This is a little off-topic but given my intent I hope no one minds... I have a spare SUN Sparc-5 that I'd like to configure as a linux box (why? because I can :)). Anyway, my *entire* network is token-ring and I don't have a spare token-ring card (let alone a linux driver) so my question is:

Re: non-hub 10baseT connections

1997-12-30 Thread Stephen Zander
Vincent Renardias wrote: > Yes, you can, but you need a special ethernet cable with a pair of wires > crossed. (I made a few ones, but you should consider to buy it if you have > no special wiring knowledge. Costs about $8 here.) Given the specs, I could but not without tools :) Looks like I go sh

Re: non-hub 10baseT connections

1997-12-30 Thread Stephen Zander
Thomas Lakofski wrote: > You'd be surprised... I described a cross cable to a friend of mine, and > told him that he'd have to go and get one made up or get some tools. He > mailed me back 5 minutes later to tell me that he'd got it working. I > asked him how, he said he'd pried the cable apart, d

debian-sparc list, where?

1997-12-31 Thread Stephen Zander
Have tried a couple of times to subscribe to debian-sparc using [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I'm being met by a deafening silence. Is there something wrong with the list server? If I couldn't spell, I figure the list server would have told me so :/ -- Stephen --- "Normality is a statistical illusion."

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-05 Thread Stephen Zander
Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Why does libc6 depend on kernel-header ? > > It's libc6-dev that has that dependency. > Perhaps weakening the dependency to Suggests might be the best solution. No, you can't. Their are multiple header file

Re: autmake & debian? (was: Re: cron jobs more often than daily)

1998-01-05 Thread Stephen Zander
David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Shortly put, most of the test are appropriate for SunOS 4 but not for Debian > (GNU libc2, gcc, POSIX.1 and nearly X/OPEN compliant) and are a waste of time. > Of course, some m4 guru could put together an Debianized set of autoconf > macros... If I get som

Re: What's Debian's /usr/src policy

1998-01-06 Thread Stephen Zander
Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I know, however it would allow people to much more easily install and > maintain their own kernel sources for these includes. Surely if they're clever enough for that, they're clever enough to override a Recommends (not a Suggests) heading. Maybe that

Re: boot-floppies progress

1998-01-07 Thread Stephen Zander
Given the .sig on that message, the packages were suprisingly appropriate :) -- Stephen --- "Normality is a statistical illusion." -- me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

[info@troll.no] The KDE Free Qt Foundation

1998-04-09 Thread Stephen Zander
Anyone care to comment? -- Stephen --- "Normality is a statistical illusion." -- me --- Start of forwarded message --- Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:42:32 +0200 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: mozilla-announce@mozilla.org Cc: mozilla-gener

Re: [info@troll.no] The KDE Free Qt Foundation

1998-04-09 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Craig" == Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Craig> if this results in a new Qt license which meets the DFSG Craig> (specifically the items regarding modifying source and Craig> non-discrimination) then both KDE and Qt can go into debian Craig> main. i hope that this i

What to do when dupload doesn't....

1998-04-10 Thread Stephen Zander
What's the appropriate procdure when dupload fails? Can I just manually ftp the files to the appropriate directory on master? I can't use scp 'cause I'm behind a brain-dead fire-wall. -- Stephen --- "Normality is a statistical illusion." -- me -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wit

Re: FILESYSTEM CORRUPTION

1998-04-11 Thread Stephen Zander
> "John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] John> not umount local drives. Therefore, I believe it would be John> prudent, as a temporary workaround for the kernel bug, to John> umount all local drives before umounting network drives. It No, that won't work if the

Re: What to do when dupload doesn't....

1998-04-13 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Heiko" == Heiko Schlittermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Heiko> You can. Heiko> But why does dupload fail? It's timing out while ftping through my fire-wall. I would *really* like to see all the debain packages using perl that attempt FTP to do so through the Net::FTP package!

Re: sleep contains crypto stuff?

1998-04-13 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Marcelo" == Marcelo E Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Marcelo> On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: >> Apart from that, I thought that gcc and tools are intelligent >> enough to only link routines and libraries to executables if >> there are routines from them used

Re: What to do when dupload doesn't....

1998-04-14 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Heiko" == Heiko Schlittermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Heiko> Feel free to change dupload ... It's on my list of things to do... right after beating mirror into submission :) -- Stephen --- "Normality is a statistical illusion." -- me -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FILESYSTEM CORRUPTION

1998-04-14 Thread Stephen Zander
> "John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Indeed. It happened to me again today. While watching my laptop shut-down last night, I noticed that mountd & nsfd *do* get stopped prior to the PCMCIA shutdown. Maybe they're just not getting stopped hard enough :) -- Stephen

Re: intent to package jstation

1998-04-14 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Bdale" == Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bdale> Because jstation depends on JDK 1.1, it will go to contrib Bdale> despite being GPL'ed itself. This might change if a free Bdale> Java implementation for Debian can replace the JDK Bdale> dependency. This is my first

Re: intent to package jstation

1998-04-14 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Vincent" == Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Vincent> No it won't AFAIK. I've orphaned it more than 1 year ago Vincent> and no-one uploaded it, so I've asked it to be removed Vincent> from the distribution (the current 0.7.1-2 package is old Vincent> and buggy) a

Re: /bin/sh has no man page.

1998-04-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dale> /bin/sh is provided by bash, but doesn't come with its own Dale> man page. How does one determine the differences between sh Dale> and bash? On my system /bin/sh -> bash, so I guess there aren't many. Of course I could h

Re: /bin/sh has no man page.

1998-04-23 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Martin" == Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Of course I could have just put both feet in my mouth too Martin> Thing is that bash behaves different if called as sh or Martin> bash. You mean I was right about my feet? Cool! :) -- Stephen --- all coders are crea

Re: gpm and time after hamm upgrade

1998-04-27 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Corey" == Corey Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Corey> After upgrading to hamm, I have experienced the two Corey> following problems. First, gpm no longer seems to work with Corey> my mouse. I have a PS/2 M$ Intellimouse, which used to work Corey> fine as type ps2. I

Re: License advice

1998-04-28 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Bear" == Bear Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bear> You're assuming that this rule applies everywhere and in Bear> every situation. In the US the assumption often goes the Bear> other way; anything not explicitly forbidden is permitted Bear> (up to the limits of lawful act

Re: warning: lilo 22dev0-1 can make your system unbootable !

1999-09-30 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Vincent" == Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Vincent> short summary: lilo v22 works only with 2.0 kernels; it Vincent> won't boot a 2.2.x or a 2.3.y. a v21 version has been Vincent> reuploaded to master this morning. Hmmm, sure? $ dpkg -l lilo ii lilo

Re: warning: lilo 22dev0-1 can make your system unbootable !

1999-09-30 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Thomas" == Thomas Schoepf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> Did you /run/ lilo, too? Or just installed it? Yep, the postinst automatically reruns lilo assuming you take the default answers to all the questions it asks. -- Stephen --- "If 8-year-old boys discharging loaded firearms

Re: Danger, Branden Robinson! Danger!

2000-03-13 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Joseph" == Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joseph> Only 6000? We must be getting lazy. 6000 is way too Joseph> easy. Better try for 8000. Now one ever thought the Dow would break 10k: took 'em 10yrs to get from 3k to there. I'm sure we can do it in 2yrs (which is about

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 17, 2000

2000-03-17 Thread Stephen Zander
>>>>> "Ben" == Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Package: prc-tools (debian/main) Maintainer: Stephen Zander >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 51647 prc-tools: fails building on sparc Ben> This is going to either require me to port s

ITP: lvs-gui

2000-03-17 Thread Stephen Zander
This is my intent to package the lvs-gui code written by Horn at VA for their web-server farm demo. Unless someone else already did it of course. :) http://ultramonkey.sourceforge.net/> if you care. -- Stephen "If I claimed I was emporer just cause some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me

Re: Novell: NDS eDirectory for Linux

2000-03-21 Thread Stephen Zander
Andreas recently commented elsewhere about Novell's latest foray into directory management and Linux. See: http://www.novell.com/lead_stories/2000/mar13/linux/index.html> for details. My question, after reading various documents attached to that URL, is: Does this really matter? AFAI

Re: 100Mb/Full Duplex

2000-03-27 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Bdale" == Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bdale> Some folks at work saw similar weirdness with the Bdale> negotiation on some HP switch products, their solution was Bdale> to configure the switch to not do the auto discovery Bdale> protocol, but instead have each por

Re: WNPP

2000-03-30 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Michael" == Michael Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> If you like the package :-) Of course. The package lacks Michael> a good example /etc/aide.conf. If someone has a nice Michael> example, please send it to me. I will include it in the Michael> package. Let me know

Re: Where's the prc-tools package?

2000-09-03 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Michael" == Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> It's still mention in Suggests: etc. but the package is Michael> not listed in the Packages files anymore. Just a Michael> temporary situation or a real problem? Bit of both. prc-tools failed to build on sparc so B

Re: libapache-asp-perl - perl Apache::ASP - Active Server Pages for Apache with mod_perl.

2000-12-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Piotr" == Piotr Roszatycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Piotr> ITO: libapache-asp-perl Piotr> ITO: libapache-filter-perl Piotr> ITO: libapache-ssi-perl Piotr> ITO: libcgi-pm-perl Piotr> ITO: libdbd-csv-perl Piotr> ITO: libhtml-clean-perl Piotr> ITO: libhtml-simplep

Re: Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user

2000-12-27 Thread Stephen Zander
> "exa" == exa writes: exa> I use bash. Is this zsh better? :) Yes. -- Stephen "A duck!"

Re: autodetecting MBR location

2001-01-02 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Russell" == Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russell> Right. The s/[0-9]+$// should do it. s/\d+$// not s/[0-9]+$//. The former will continue to work in Unicode capable file-systems (assuming Linux ever supports such). Nothing to see here, move along... -- Stephen "An

Re: libglide2: debconf didn't ask question even for failed answer

2001-01-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> Note that I specifically said it should reset the flag *just Joey> before* bombing out. Hmm, why then does the following snippet if [ -f /etc/tripwire/tw.config -o -f /etc/tw.config ] then db_input critical tripwire/upg

John Laws (was Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server)

2001-01-07 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hamish> On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:43:52PM +1000, Jason Henry Hamish> Parker wrote: >> ``Banks *are* bastards.'' -- John Laws Hamish> Err, yeah.. takes one to know one? Stop it. You're both making me home-sick :) --

Nouns in the second declension (Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server)

2001-01-07 Thread Stephen Zander
> "exa" == exa writes: exa> bug report? BTW, I'm not a professional ignorami whatever exa> that means, dear literary pioneer of the list. Correct. You are (or would be) a professional ignoramus. Ignorami is the plural form, just like hippopotami & radii are the plural forms of hip

Re: our broken man package

2001-01-09 Thread Stephen Zander
Late, by hey, what the hell... > "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> In other words, if you can have a religious war over it, we Joey> need an alternative. I have never seen a religious war over Joey> man. :-) Tom Christiansen has been known to get into them. B

Re: May packages rm -rf subdirectories of /etc/ ?

2003-07-24 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> Unfortunately dpkg does not handle the case where a Herbert> conffile ceases to exist in a later version of a package. Herbert> The conffile will be left on the system even after Herbert> purging. That's why package

Re: Adding a Pre-Depends on debconf in console-common?

2002-04-21 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Junichi" == Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Junichi> I have had an impression that debconf is part of base as Junichi> well, which means a Pre-Depends is not required. Ah, no. pooh% apt-cache show debconf Package: debconf Priority: important Section: admin No base ther

Re: GCC 3.2 transition

2002-08-16 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Joseph" == Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joseph> Well there's the proprietary JDK, but it already uses a Joseph> -compat package library. Eh? Are you refering to java plugins for mozilla et al, or any actual JDK? -- Stephen To Republicans, limited government means no

Re: GCC 3.2 transition

2002-08-17 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Joseph" == Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joseph> Sun's JDK. I know for a fact there's no use of dynamic C++ libraries in any JDK prior to 1.4.1 and I just check the latest 1.4.1 beta & find no mention of libstdc++ in any of the executables. If there's C++ code in there, it'

Re: GCC 3.2 transition

2002-08-17 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Joseph" == Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joseph> That's one hell of a figment of my imagination. Although, Joseph> it does seem the plugin is the only thing which uses Joseph> libstdc++. And I asked originally were you refering to plugin code or a JDK. plugin != JDK

Dependencies on -dev packages

2002-09-03 Thread Stephen Zander
What is the thinking behind always requiring libfoo-dev to depend on libbar-dev when libfoo depends on libbar? I understand the need when /usr/include/foo.h contains #include but if libfoo opaquely wraps libbar, why have libfoo-dev depend on libbar-dev? -- Stephen "Farcical aquatic ceremo

Re: Dependencies on -dev packages

2002-09-03 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ray" == J H M Dassen writes: Ray> How opaque is that opaque when considering the case of Ray> linking against a library statically? That need might reasonably be met with a Recommends: or Suggests: -- Stephen To Republicans, limited government means not assisting people they wou

Re: Dependencies on -dev packages

2002-09-03 Thread Stephen Zander
I wrote a longer response to this but then thought about what you wrote a bit more and deleted it. > "Henrique" == Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Henrique> The lack of symbol versioning, about 90% of the time. Then why not mandate symbol versioning instead; that

Re: Dependencies on -dev packages

2002-09-03 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Andrew" == Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andrew> Recommends and Suggests are not considered when installing Andrew> build-dependencies. And packages aren't supposed to be built staticly either. Packages that do build staticly could explicitly Build-Depend on whatever

Re: Another mass bug filing: get rid of xlib6g*

2002-11-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Branden> /me wanders off, laughing maniacally and regressing to Branden> childhood Saturday nights watching PBS... Did you call your dog K-9 and and build a phone booth out of cardboard boxes too? -- Stephen You will be a l

Re: Another mass bug filing: get rid of xlib6g*

2002-11-25 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Jaldhar" == Jaldhar H Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jaldhar> Not me but I did spend quite a lot of my childhood with Jaldhar> my arm held out rigidly in front of me saying, Jaldhar> "EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!" See, it's the little things that bring us together... -- Stephen

Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-11-27 Thread Stephen Zander
There are a significant number of lib*-java packages whose only dependency is on java-common. While the java policy has condoned this behaviour in the past, it is non-sensical to do in the same way it is non-sensical of C libraries not to depend on libc. This is due to the use of standard java.*

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-11-27 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> errr... shouldn't you decide on the name first, then file Brian> bug reports? A reasonable point & I'll do so. I don't, however, expect the name to change as that would introduce a third virtual package into the mix. Tow, java-

Re: automatic selection which kernel image to install

2002-11-28 Thread Stephen Zander
> "sean" == sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: sean> i would guess not... /proc/cpuinfo. Of course if the user doesn't start out using an smp kernel, they clearly don't need one. -- Stephen "So if she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood."... "And therefore?"... "A witch!

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-30 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Georg" == Georg Lehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> ... What would be wrong with multiple A records in this Georg> case? The fact that forwrd DNS != reverse DNS. That is, the PTR record won't necessarily match the name that produced the A record. While not broken, it can ha

Re: Fwd: Please confirm your message

2002-12-02 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Jan" == Jan Niehusmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jan> Time will tell. I fear that some day, the only way to use Jan> email productively is to block all email with invalid sender Jan> adresses. And I don't know a way do valdiate a (not yet Jan> known) address but to try it a

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stefan> Currently the following packages in testing provide Stefan> java1-runtime: gij-3.0, gij-3.2, orp-classpath and Stefan> sablevm. All of them include (or depend on) a Java virtual Stefan> machine so if I add this depen

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> This is false. If the package provides the core classes it Ola> should provide java1-runtime but NOT java-virtual-machine. If Ola> it provides the virtual-machine it should provide Ola> java-virtual-machine. If this is no

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> This is false. If the package provides the core classes it Ola> should provide java1-runtime but NOT java-virtual-machine. If Ola> it provides the virtual-machine it should provide Ola> java-virtual-machine. If this is no

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Simon" == Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Simon> I think the autobuilder argument is valid. Autobuilders Simon> need the classes, but not the VM. If at all, you can make Simon> the VMs depend on the core classes, so people can depend on Simon> the core classes for c

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
Ok, I should stop reading mail at 3am... > "Simon" == Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Simon> I think the autobuilder argument is valid. Autobuilders Simon> need the classes, but not the VM. If at all, you can make Simon> the VMs depend on the core classes, so people can

Re: Work-needing packages report for Apr 11, 2003

2003-04-14 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Andrew" == Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> cadaver Andrew> You get ten of these to the penny. Actually, cadaver shouldn't be on that list. The current maintainer is continuing to support it and doesn't want to give it up unless someone else ports it to GnuTLS (I aske

Re: Maintainers with excessive old RC bugs

2003-04-14 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Colin" == Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Colin> Assuming you're <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, you have Colin> four open release-critical bugs, none of which have had any Colin> response, and three of which have been open since October. Nope, that's a screwup on my part. The bu

Re: character sets

2001-04-27 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> 1. use xemacs mule latin input mode. It doesn't work for Brian> me, have to try and find out why. Maybe I need to include Brian> something in my .emacs file, or maybe I need to unstable Brian> version of xemacs. Try usin

build-dependencies inconsistent in testing

2001-04-28 Thread Stephen Zander
Consider this: pooh% apt-cache show build-essential dpkg-dev Package: build-essential Priority: optional Section: devel Installed-Size: 48 Maintainer: Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Version: 4 Depends: libc6-dev | libc-dev, gcc, g++, make, dpkg-dev (>= 1.4.1.19) Fi

Re: build-dependencies inconsistent in testing

2001-04-28 Thread Stephen Zander
>>>>> "me" == Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: me> This makes it rather difficult to build a chroot testing me> environment that makes sense :/ Nevermind. apt-get install build-essential dpkg-dev gets round my problem. -- Step

Test: my posts are not getting to this list

2001-09-06 Thread Stephen Zander
Please ignore; just trying to see why my posts aren't getting through

Wherabouts of buildd logs

2001-09-06 Thread Stephen Zander
[Try this again, something's been eating my emails.] I'm trying to track down why some of my packages have not made into testing. update_excuses shows one of them as out of date on hppa, but doesn't give a buildd log showing why. Do hppa buildd logs exist online anywhere? -- Stephen

woody chroots on powerpc and sparc?

2001-09-18 Thread Stephen Zander
CC's to me please... Do such things exist? Trying to build a package for powerpc/sparc on i386 is a little difficult and I explicitly want to build for woody/testing. -- Stephen "A duck!"

Re: Running dpkg -r foo from a postinst script?

2001-09-19 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> Hi I have a simple question. Is it possible to run dpkg -r Ola> foo from within a postinst-script when using dselect or apt? No. Dpkg will complain about the existance of a lock file. The lock files exists to avoid corruption

Re: ITA: lvs - Linux Virtual Server kernel patches and support programs

2001-12-23 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Colin" == Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Colin> I suspect Junichi's point may be that the normal way to ask Colin> about the progress of an ITA is to ask the people who did Colin> the ITA and cc that discussion to the appropriate bug Colin> report. (If it isn't his

Re: Quake 2 sources GPL'd

2001-12-26 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Marcus" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Marcus> Let's promote when we have something to promote. Does this count as something to promote? http://psdoom.sourceforge.net> -- Stephen "A duck!"

Re: BitKeeper

2002-01-03 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Peter" == Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Peter> There is nothing in the DFSG saying the a licens can't Peter> require you to give the original autor all rights to you Peter> changes. So that single part of the license I refered to Peter> does not makes it even more

Re: Temporary(?) orphaning of netsaint and my other packagen

2002-01-11 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Turbo" == Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Turbo> I'd be interested in net saint... The bugs don't look that Turbo> grave... Well if you don't want it, I do. -- Stephen "So if she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood."... "And therefore?"... "A witch!"

Re: Software contains DES

2002-01-14 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Hin-lik" == Hin-lik Hung Shell writes: Hin-lik> Hi, I am going to upload the libcrypt-des-perl, is it ok Hin-lik> to upload it to non-US ? Actually, that's the only place you could put it. AFAIK, the crypto-in-main discussion has not yet reached a conclusion. -- Stephen "A duck

Re: perl getpwnam returns x

2002-04-07 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Martin" == Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> getpwnam.passwd = x as it is written in /etc/passwd. Martin> getspwnam.passwd = encrypted password. Perl doesn't supoprt getspnam(). It used to do a getspnam under the covers in the getpwnam call in 5.00404 (I wrote the

Re: Why XFree86 4.2 Isn't in Woody

2002-04-17 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ben" == Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> What the fuck is going on! When in this insane world did Ben> Branden become the polite well mannered one, and I become the Ben> asshole! That's ok. If Branden is going to be polite someone has to assume his former flame-from

Re: Serious performance bug in Perl

1998-06-24 Thread Stephen Zander
As the proud owner of that particular patch, I guess I should say something... :) > "Daniel" == Daniel Martin at cush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Daniel> Ok, I've looked at it. Daniel> I really don't know quite what to do with this. On the Daniel> one hand, automatically reading

Re: About the Hamm Freeze (!)

1998-06-24 Thread Stephen Zander
Sorry for a late response, been on holidays... > "Darren" == Darren/Torin/Who Ever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Darren> This is the case if you use the tie interface in Perl. Darren> This is not the case if you use dbmopen, at least it Darren> didn't use to be. Hamm should just ge

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-24 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Yann" == Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Yann> Seems like it doesn't work: Yann> $ dpkg --compare-versions 2.07pre8-1 '<<' 2.0.8 && echo yes || echo no no Eh? Not when I try it. -- Stephen --- all coders are created equal; that they are endowed with certain unalienable r

Re: About the Hamm Freeze (!)

1998-06-25 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Darren" == Darren/Torin/Who Ever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Darren> Hmm. You're right. Any ideas on when this changed or was Darren> I just on too much sleep-dep when I last looked at this. Darren> (a while back) Been that way for quite a while AFAIK. Till very recently, tho

boot-disks 98-06-23 missing nfs support

1998-06-25 Thread Stephen Zander
The kernel in the latest base2_0.tgz seems to have a couple of small problems. Firstly, the PCMCIA modules can't find a number of symbols on start-up (no big deal to me but important to others). Secondly, and more importantly, support for the nfs file-system has been removed. This makes using t

Re: problem w/ the Java interface lib for PostgreSQL

1998-10-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Shaleh" == Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Shaleh> The libpgjava depends on jdk1.1-runtime, which tries to Shaleh> remove the -dev files needed to actually write Java apps. Shaleh> The jdk1.1-dev provides the runtime, but is not able to Shaleh> provide the numeric versio

Re: problem w/ the Java interface lib for PostgreSQL

1998-10-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Shaleh" == Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Shaleh> libpgjava depends on jdk1.1-runtime (>= ??.??). Shaleh> jdk1.1-dev provides jdk-runtime. However the dependency Shaleh> resolution tries to install jdk1.1-runtime because of the Shaleh> versioned depends and jdk-runtime

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