so you will likely find even *more*
people willing to help with this experiment if you do so. But doing so
is also in the interest of better reproducibility and peer review of
scientific experiments, as you certainly know.
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ement,
worrying about the fact that simply providing URLs to tarballs wouldn't
be considered enough? Or is it something else?
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th the copyleft approach (and of course not all of us are)
AGPL shouldn't be particularly shocking. In that sense, AGPL is just a
new release of GPL that closes a long outstanding bug titled "provide a
license port for the Software-as-a-Service era".
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*modified* version of INN. But it is exactly the
> same kind of difficulties that people distributing modified copylefted
> software will have to face to uphold GPL (or equivalent) terms.
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the shift in the most common deployment
pattern for software: handing software copies in the past, using remote
services over the net nowadays.
(Anyway, here we're getting quite off-topic...)
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e the
good moment to rather ask them to migrate to some libdpkg* API instead.
Thanks in advance for your advice,
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frequent ABI changes, well, "so be
it" would be my take. YMMV of course.
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On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 02:18:13PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:56:40PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > I'm myself guilty of having implemented, back in 2007, python-debian's
> > support to manipulate .deb files: the debian.debfile modu
ood work!
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[1]: preliminary, not necessarily up to date, results are available at
http://firewoes.debian.net/ for those who are interested
[2]: http://debile.debian.net/
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valuable to you.
As we're quickly getting off-topic for debian-devel, feel free to
contact me (and likely the others who have participated in this thread,
even though I cannot speak for them) off-list.
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n libraries; I'm not sure if that's the
case also for Haskell or not.
Now, does that mean that you need to add OCaml/Haskell software to the
list of exceptions? I'm not sure, it really depends on the intended
Built-Using use cases.
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his point wasn't to
dispute the usefulness of this software, but rather to encourage the
packager to add a more comprehensive description of it to the Debian
package :-) Adding some of your points about API availability would be a
very good start.
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e to GNome?)
> are silence by
> Code of Conduct
>
> Now, let me know - is this the new way of silencing critical voices?
No. But it is a gigantic leap forward in the culture of our community.
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t the init system (both "which are the supported
ones?" and "which is the default one?") clearly belong to the tech-ctte
at this point.
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ill be the criteria for assessing whether the
experiment has been successful (and hence worth keeping for Jessie) or a
failure (and hence reverting it)?
Hint: I don't think that the amount of opinionated posts anti-GNOME or
anti-Xfce posted on debian-devel is a good success metric :-)
Ch
in actually improving the life of users affected by
the issue than this intriguing discussion about who *in theory* is
responsible of cleaning up old debris.
Share the code, we'll all be happier.
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eedback from past admins, it'd be wise to have at least 3 volunteers
before deciding to apply.
Many thanks in advance!,
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;d like to discuss the above publicly, I suggest doing so on
-derivatives. If OTOH you want to point me to specific episodes you'd
like to remain private, feel free to mail me at leader@d.o.
Many thanks in advance for your help,
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all maintenance team to
have a mailing list. Maybe starting archiving @packages.d.o addresses
could be a first step?
What do others think?
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hall-not-exec-stuff-while-patching"
alone make me score quilt way higher than dpatch, for sanity of the
archive sake.)
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or
or even override it. Eventually, the change will just happen. Or not.
And that is part of the reason why tool transitions in Debian might take
several years to complete.
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was going on and how he could help, if he had approached me saying that
Debian sucks.
/me, in mystic mode.
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uld not be in that business.
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« the first rule of tautology club is
opying -webapps, as this discussion should probably continue there.
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IIRC, it is the case for DEP-5).
The above notwithstanding, we can probably learn from this thread that,
for the future, it would help to first announce "I'm about to mark
DEP-$x as ACCEPTED" and then doing that. I personally don't think it is
a big deal, but given that others di
#x27;ll
come back given that I've sought in the past very similar legal
advice for Debian's "PPA" [2]
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/06/msg0.html
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f you could capitalize
your recent experience to make the path easier for others in the future.
And, of course, welcome!
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use cases like this
one?
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e ready to advertise all its entries, otherwise people should
not register them in the first place.
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ion to the
official debian.org infrastructure.
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d the
world, unfortunately).
To distribute something like libdvdcss2, unfortunately, we will need to
resurrect something like "non-us", rename it to
"non-dmca-like-embargoed-country" + pick "wisely" the country where to
host it.
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out the case of debian.net services that are not 'web' services,
but they should be documented anyhow, so...)
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On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 08:40:33AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> While we are at it, I also think we should provide an index of
> *.debian.net entries on that splash page.
> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianNetDomains is just too prone to outdateness
> and incompleteness. The
about accepting
new ports. We will probably worry more and more about the impact on
(currently) popular ports, of accepting new ports as supported. In the
long run, we will probably diminish our willingness to accept new port
as supported. That would be a shame and also a strategic error.
Cheers.
hen taking this
discussion to a bug report against the "lists.debian.org" pseudo-package
and attaching a patch to it? That would be a way more appropriate place
for this discussion. (I suggest not to mention "foo.org" verbatim in
your bug report, though.)
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but is not clear to me how to raise the
interest by other DDs in reviewing the "intent to orphan" bugs filed by
3rd parties. Maybe we should document to post them on -qa? That *might*
have the side-effect of fostering the creation of a review community for
these kind of actions on -qa. Mu
), we might end up
attracting there people who have an interest in doing this sort of
package quality review. That sounds like a useful side-effect to me. But
I'm still unsure about the benefits of the seconds principle, though.
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users and bug report to them than before, albeit now they
are mediated. Looks like the same situation.
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on the procedure. Thanks a bunch to Lucas, you, and all the others who
helped keeping this discussion going. I'm looking forward to a new
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appear out of thin area the code
implementing the decision.
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On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 09:51:48PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> (Andreas Barth, Bill Allombert, and Russ Allombert have confirmed their
> interest in working as editors and remain on board.)
Erm, overzealous M-/ in my favorite editor :-) So let's thank here
Andreas Barth, Bil
s, which looks like a WIN to me.
Please review the above data and methods, and show me wrong!
Tentative bottom line: I've joined the project around the same time as
Christian, so I'm entitled my old chap badge too. But at the same time,
I like to fight with data my natural old chap tende
oaders? In the former
case (Maintainer only), you'll probably end up interpreting the
evolution from individual maintenance to team maintenance as a decrease
in the available people power, incorrectly imo.
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Ma
ree with Benjamin's interpretation of
user feedback from the other part of the decision, that could be surely
discussed with him. But it doesn't seem to me a good reason to give up,
or discourage, the approach altogether.
Just my 0.02€,
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consensus. But I do think in that case we should
_eventually_ allow the orphaning to happen (after all 1/0 > 3/1 ACK/NACK
).
Any suggestion on how to word that properly, without adding yet another
timeout rule carved in stone?
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ained packages should not be hard. We need people to
> do it. We need people to do it more than they do today. We need to make
> it easy.
I agree. But what you need to make easy are the common cases. The
difficult cases will be difficult no matter what.
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last resort. I don't think we're
nowhere near the need of it in this specific case.
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On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 01:54:19PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I don't think we're nowhere near the need of it in this specific case.
s/don't//
obviously :)
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I understand you probably want to further
inspect the individual removals), and/or run on a fixed cadence?
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#x27;m weary of safeguards that block individuals to act forever if
everyone else in the world happen to be busy.
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to people to react.
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we're diverging quite a bit in this
sub-thread, whereas there seems to be agreement on the timings, at
last...)
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doc/README.package-tests;hb=HEAD
[3]: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=692282
[4]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2012/11/msg9.html
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On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 07:01:12PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I'd like to go ahead with a "Severity: wishlist" mass bug filing to
> kindly ask maintainers to add the missing header. The proposed mail
> template for mass-bug is attached.
This is now done, sta
oal --- increasing Debian quality --- even if when they arrive
at a moment that might seem untimely.
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ueling these threads already (especially when the subject
is not meaningful at all).
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the CAA/CLAs
are optional, as it happens for KDE.
IMO that is what we should worry about before adopting as a rather
foundational part of the Debian OS something that requires mandatory
CAA/CLA.
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daily on Debian PR --- it would
likely be much more effective than shouting against other distributions
on a mailing list devoted to Debian development
kthxbye
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an.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=686819 there is a bug
report, aiming at fixing this. I've been trying to get review before
applying it since quite a while, without much success. I'll try again
this week and push the patch. Thanks for your feedback.
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> buildd usage for events like BSP. Many thanks to Lucas Nussbaum and
Erm, typo here. This should have been "Many thanks to Lucas Nussbaum and
James Bromberger". Sorry James!
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discussion on CAA/CLAs. Here are a couple of relevant contributions:
- http://opensource.com/law/11/7/trouble-harmony-part-1
- http://opensource.com/law/11/7/trouble-harmony-part-2
Look for "inbound=outbound" in them.
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ut the basics are what we can all imagine: inspecting VCS
histories, patch submission to public mailing lists and bug trackers,
etc.
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olling
derivatives (e.g. Mint), or as a distribution for power users that still
want some sort of "protection" between them and the latest uploads to
unstable & experimental.
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o some minor syntactic issues (I speculate: due to the age of the
.svg in question) it doesn't work properly with current version of
popular FOSS SVG editors.
Let's "just" find SVG experts in our community and ask them to fix the
source code. Posting a call for help about this on
debian-...@lists.debian.org might want to give it a
> test and replace the old file with this one? Anyhow I now have my
> Debian logo for my slides!
>
> Thanks all for helping with this issue.
>
> Cheers,
> Filippo
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upstreams (including ourselves) to make it as easy as possible for
downstreams to first apply patches, according to their own schedule and
needs, and then forward them upstream.
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such example.
> Do all Haskell packages add Built-Using headers?
The OCaml toolchain in Debian doesn't either, #699330 has now been filed
to address that.
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-- "minimal" because all non-obvious
cases should better be routed to SPI legal support.
Regarding documentation on www.d.o/intro/organization of who is behind
trademark@d.o: sure, that's a good idea. Patches/commits welcome :-)
Thanks in advance,
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he very first section on that page, named "Trademarks"
give a natural language description of the trademarks we currently own,
with pointers to the relevant offices who have registered them. It's
possibly not very well structured, but it has been considered good
enough by Debian leg
? I understand it's a "concurrent" of gitorious :-), but AFAICT
from the RFP, it was expected to land under the hood of pkg-ruby-extras
as well.
Thanks for your work,
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other developers can help using NMUs. That way
they help both the maintainers in question, relieving some of their
duties if they are gone only temporarily, and the project as a whole
that avoids being technically stalled for a while.
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for the misunderstanding,
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ind other contributors ;-)
(And if you find other services lacking such information, bug them!)
TIA!
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p with a larger one once the import is complete.
>
> And finally to answer Zack's mail: I added the missing service
> information in git, but I need to wait with deploying until the import
> run is complete.
Great stuff Helmut, thanks!
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would be *much* appreciated.
... and thanks for raising the topic, Daniel!
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s are all to be figured out before we will be able to
move forward. If you can look into it, it would be great.
Thanks!
PS setting M-F-T to -cloud
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1] unfortunately, DMCA is not the only "bad" draconian law that exists
around the world, many other countries have similar laws
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an.org/pipermail/fsf-collab-discuss/2013-March/000383.html
FWIW it's fixed in the version of the report that is going to show up on
Planet.
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t the buildds
do, except they do that for build dependencies, while you likely want to
do that for binary package dependencies). Doing so might be simpler than
having to support other britney runs/installations.
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Maît
EP, or a wiki page, or a bug report, whatever is
appropriate), containing a summary of the arguments in favors and
against and corresponding counterarguments.
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olved issues
were initially marked wontfix, but have then been corrected. Most of the
remaining bugs seem to be affecting zope-related packages and other zope
packages have been fixed already.
Cheers.
[1]:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=missing-testsuite-header;users=autopkg
BF, I didn't mean to propose another one. I was merely
pointing to the old one to observe its evolution over time.
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Former Debian Project Lea
ong; arguably doing so will
contribute to be even worse email citizens. If we do have such a
replacement (I just don't know) please mention it in the removal bug
report.
Thanks for having maintained vacation over all these years!
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on (sorry), but you might also
be interested in sadt --- "simple DEP-8 test runner" --- by Jakub Wilk,
which has recently joined the devscripts happy bunch. Just install
devscripts (>= 2.14.1, currently in unstable only) and have a look at
man 1 sadt.
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e service to retrieve it. Rather
contact me in private and I could provide a dump of the relevant
database tables.
HTH,
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Former Debian Proj
n to you when he is stuck
choosing among names that are absolutely obscure to him like "GNOME",
"Xfce", and "KDE"?
We are software integrators, making default choices is what we do.
We can't pass the bucket down to our users.
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ems, get back to us, and then we realize pretty quickly that the
root cause of their problems is precisely that they haven't read the
release notes.
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ntitled to question existing choice and to
make better choices. But please, think of the kittens. Any change that
will make more difficult to share work has a cost in the long run that
might, and will, impact on the quality of Openstack packages for Debian.
Thanks for your interest in packaging Openst
oking forward to a great set of Openstack packages for Debian,
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Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I've fans eve
hare about
that?
> - A dak package to upload into unstable. Although that's coming Real
>Soon Now, honest (especially as one of the ftpteam needs it...).
Neat!
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zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debi
is just an idea, little more than a brain-dump, for finding a
compromise among the real needs of people with bandwidth problem and the
social issues revolving around developer sloppiness.
Once more: it's material for discussion which IMHO should not be in the
way of the implementation of
'll need help to be
able to push for them.
Regarding (4), it has an obvious dependency on DEP8 and on the
infrastructure needed to run the tests. We're still looking for help
willing to do both secretarial and infrastructure work to make that a
reality.
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e "if you
do $foo I'll stop using Debian", I can't help thinking (and sometime
commenting) that those comments are not helping pursuing a technical
discussion.
As the rest of this subthread is not helping either, I stop here and
also apologize with the other readers for the noise.
decision, in the hopefully unlikely
case that people will really want to do that.
Let's fight^Wdiscuss all this!
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Quando anch
-f" (extending a bit the current semantics of
-f) which would refuse to upload a source only binary by default?
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Quando anche i santi
[ Bcc:-ing release team ]
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 06:15:52PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Since other follow-ups have avoided this topic up to now, let me be the
> reckless guy who jumps into it with both feet: time based freezes!
Another thread, another thread summary! Here is a s
for Squeeze:
> | Packages that are present in unstable the day we freeze will be
> | automatically allowed into testing, that is, the freeze date ... does
> | not mean your package should be in testing by then, but only in
> | unstable.
ACK-ed as well in my other mail, thanks to
it which of course might arise in the future).
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Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I've fans everywhere
ti res
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 01:28:01PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I propose the following additions:
>
> 1) No uninstallable packages, according to their dependencies, are
>
> 2) No packages with (detectable) conflicts are shipped as part of a
After Ralf's ack to docu
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