Re: package testing, autopkgtest, and all that

2011-02-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ve > DEP? ;) Let's see first if we have all the arguments on the table already, thanks to this thread. I'm willing to co-drive a DEP to finalize the spec, although I definitely need helping hands (hint, hint!). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ Pos

Re: package testing, autopkgtest, and all that

2011-02-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t strategy in a volunteer community), what I'm still trying to figure out are the success criteria and the final place where the specification should land. Would policy be a reasonable expectation, once (and if) we reach wide spread adoption? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer S

MBF: switching away from homepage pseudo-header

2011-02-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
come from before actually reporting the bugs. [1] http://upsilon.cc/~zack/stuff/homepage-field/ [2] http://lintian.debian.org/tags/description-contains-homepage.html -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>-

Re: Upcoming FTPMaster meeting

2011-02-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
promising than relying in random build environments prepared by maintainers which are not using {cow,p}builder, when they should. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche

Re: MBF: switching away from homepage pseudo-header

2011-02-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
orts. Maybe, if we go for the MBF and tag the bugs properly, the presence of this bug can be perused by monitors like bapase [1] as extra data to identify neglected packages? Cheers. [1] http://udd.debian.org/bapase.cgi -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zac

Re: MBF: switching away from homepage pseudo-header

2011-02-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ adding -qa for the neglected-packages-busting part ] On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 03:59:33PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > My own reading of this thread is that we can go ahead with this MBF. > You can find attached the template and actual package list, ready for > mass-bug invocation

Re: Aren't there any checks in place to prevent a package from becoming uninstallable?

2011-02-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t way would be support for upload time hooks in dput. We've discussed that in the past---see #477919---but no one ended up adding the needed support to dput. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>-

Re: NMU procedure

2011-02-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
problem with NMUs. /me, still campaigning for NMUs as the best device we have to fight inertia. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, |

Re: Lintian check for missing desktop files?

2011-03-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e heuristic is clearly more debatable, but I'm no condition to propose one which is better than the one proposed by Andreas). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/

Re: Help identify packages that multiarch support will break

2011-03-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
u want a bug report about this? Thanks to the mighty dpkg maintainers! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I've fans

Bug#616342: dpkg-query: add the ability to dump the entire dpkg database

2011-03-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
h best effort to find appropriate usertags). On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 05:30:42PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Is there a way to ask dpkg-query to dump all the information contained > in /var/lib/dpkg/status without either having to: (1) list all fields > explicitly (using --show + --sh

Re: Help identify packages that multiarch support will break

2011-03-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
; accept patterns that would be nicer. > > Huh, disregard this, as pointed out by Raphaël, which I had forgotten > somehow, just doing «dpkg-query -f '${Package}\n' -W» would work. In > my defense (if that's possible :), I've now fixed the documentation: > > &

enable/disable support in /usr/sbin/service

2011-03-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
roblem or would we need something else in addition? (beside documentation, of course) In particular, considering the possibility of other init systems coming (see #591791), would /usr/sbin/service enable/disable still be a proper, init-system-independent, abstraction? Cheers. -- Stefano Z

Re: new scripts and patches for devscripts

2011-03-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
useful tools which are known to work and which are currently maintained by a derived distro, when they are already written in a popular language, doesn't seem to be the smartest thing to do to me. Cheers. [1] http://www.springerlink.com/content/c516h8t6l16251l5/ -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD

Re: new scripts and patches for devscripts

2011-03-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
y package devscripts and let it depend on devscripts-base. IMHO, part of the value of devscripts is that it offers a bunch of useful maintenance script by default. It's already quite big and very few maintainers know all of them. Splitting the package even more will further reduce the possibili

Re: new scripts and patches for devscripts

2011-03-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ere is no added values for other scripts, but I'm unconvinced that's bad per se. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle

Re: cdn.debian.net as a project service?

2011-03-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ing a proposal at soc-coordination@lists.alioth.d.o, after having filled in the proposal template [1]. Cheers. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode/ProposalTemplate -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://

how to ask for packages rebuilding

2003-10-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ng a new rebuild of packages. Should I ask on -devel, -admin, the per architecture mailing lists or where? TIA, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -- Master in Computer Science @ Uni. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} - http://www.bononia.it/zack/ " I know you believe y

Re: how to ask for packages rebuilding

2003-10-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e.debian.org/~wouter/wanna-build-states Thanks, this really helps. > If that convinces you that human intervention is required (that's not > always the case), you should contact the people that can actually do > something about it, so the per architecture mailing lists. Ok Cheer

Re: developers reference revisited

2004-10-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
g at my debian-devel-announce folder I count, from August 27th to today, excluding automatic Work-needing mails, 16 posts. Quite an acceptable rate ... Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- Computer Science PhD student @ Uny Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} -%- http://www.bonon

M$ true type fonts in non-free?

2002-08-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
fonts in it. Fonts tarball is available at: http://keithp.com/~keithp/fonts/truetype.tar.gz Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Univ. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 33538863 | http://www.cs.unibo.it/~zacchiro "I know you believe you understood what you think

Re: Bug#156503: M$ true type fonts in non-free?

2002-08-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
rust their current interpretation of the sentence, because surely M$ don't want to distribute that fonts anymore. I suggest to ask for a debian-legal interpretation of the sentence. IANAL, but "true and complete copy" seems to me fullfilled if I embed this true and complete

redistribution of M$ fonts [nelson@crynwr.com: [Familiar] fonts]

2002-08-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
miliar Linux Distribution Familiar mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/familiar irc://irc.openprojects.net #familiar - End forwarded message - -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Univ. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 335

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Debian Developer Packages Overview

2002-08-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
page and sent it to that page maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IIRC), the patch wasn't tested because I was unable to test it by myself due to lack of permissions. That patch was supposed to show in red build log finished up with failures. If needed I can try to find it ... Cheers. -- Stef

Re: [gwolf@gwolf.cx: Bug#158547: imp: Excessive packages listed as dependencies]

2002-08-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
package. The bug report speaks about sed and grep, imp have for both of them a versioned depend, so this seems not to be a bug. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Univ. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 33538863 | http://www.cs.unibo.it/~zacchiro "I kno

lack of libbz2 bindings [Was: Packages.bz2, ...]

2002-08-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
this mail is just to add some relevance to this aspect. My 0.02 Eur, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Univ. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 33538863 | http://www.cs.unibo.it/~zacchiro "I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure

Re: lack of libbz2 bindings [Was: Packages.bz2, ...]

2002-08-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
in the not too distant future. "switching" sound to me like "changing in favour of", but in facts I'm not a native english speaker. Sorry. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Univ. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 33538863 | http://www.cs

Re: pbuilder sid chroot libpcap0

2002-09-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
have to use pbuilder on a machine where is available only a mirrored sid repository. TIA, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Univ. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 33538863 | http://www.cs.unibo.it/~zacchiro "I know you believe you understood what you think I s

Re: pbuilder sid chroot libpcap0

2002-09-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 03:25:16PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Anyway, do you know when a fixed version of pbuilder will be available? Never mind: I've just tried a "pbuilder create --distribution sid" and it worked fine. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergrad

Re: Deleting /var/cache/*

2002-09-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
re is the file, and if this is not the case do the "mkdir -p" command. In this case the inefficiency is only after a manual deletion by the sysadm, IMO this is an acceptable behaviour. IMO we should fill bugs (perhaps 'whishlist' until we clarify the FHS intended approach) and fi

Re: Test package apt repositories, and "Release" files.

2002-11-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ooked at the pinning stuff. If someone can answer on this I will surely set up the needed Release file. TIA, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Uni. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ 33538863 | http://www.cs.unibo.it/~zacchiro "I know you believe you u

Re: Bug#171351: RFA: xmlto -- XML-to-any converter

2002-12-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
the XML skills, but the tex/sgml ones. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Uni. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ 33538863 | http://www.cs.unibo.it/~zacchiro "I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that wh

Re: >2000 packages still waiting to enter testing, > 1500 over age

2003-04-18 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
3.06.1testing -- Stefano Zacchiroli -- Master in Computer Science @ Uni. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} - http://www.bononia.it/zack/ " I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I me

alioth.debian.org down

2003-05-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Alioth seems to be down, pings seems to stop at gatekeeper.terena.nl ... Was this expected? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -- Master in Computer Science @ Uni. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} - http://www.bononia.it/zack/ " I know you believe you understood wha

Re: alioth.debian.org down

2003-05-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
gress! :-) BTW, why at the time of my first post many DNS weren't neither able to resolve the alioth.debian.org hostname? I think that it should be resolvable even when alioth is down, shouldn't it? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -- Master in Computer Science @ Uni. Bologna, Italy [EM

sendmail problems'

2001-04-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ir does not exists. How I can work around this problem ? -- - Zack - Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ# 33538863 Home Page: http://www.students.cs.unibo.it/~zacchiro Undergraduate Student of Computer Science at University of Bologna, Italy SysAdm of verdi

mailq & trusted user

2001-04-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
he problem, but this is _not_ the case ! In fact doing strace of mailq it's' clear that 'mailq' attempt to enter /var/spool/mqueue/ dir that is readable/executable only by root and mail group members'. So, why this mention to TrustedUser ??? -- - Zack - Stefano

why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-04-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e docs still mention this command ). Is this a way to force the migration to dig or host Why we have to remove nsllokup from debian ? I like nslookup and I don't' want to use dig :-)))) Cheers -- - Zack - Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ# 33538863 H

mailq's fake output

2001-05-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Total requests: 0 even if there are mails in the sendmail queue !!! I'm talking about sendmail 8.11.3+8.12.0.Beta7-6, it this problem fixed in -7 version ? Cheers! -- - Zack - Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ# 33538863 Home Page: http://www.students.cs.unibo.it/~zacchi

Re: mailq's fake output

2001-05-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ted only by the comments. I miss something ?? -- - Zack - Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ# 33538863 Home Page: http://www.students.cs.unibo.it/~zacchiro Undergraduate Student of Computer Science at University of Bologna, Italy SysAdm of verdicchio.stude

sendmail-tls in non-US

2001-09-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Note: please Cc: me the answers, currently I'm not subscribed to debian-devel. I'm wondering why sendmail-tls is not available in non-US. I know that is pretty easy to build the package from the sources, but still various build-depends are needed to build it. If nobody want, I can rebuild the pac

Re: Bug#126317: ITP: robotournament -- Game where players program their robots against each other

2001-12-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 12:45:05AM +0100, Erich Schubert wrote: > * Package name: robotournament > Version : x.y.z > Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.some.org/ I've tried the above url but I can't find the tarball to download :-) Seriousl

Re: my.debian.org

2001-12-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 12:46:58AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As a debian developer, I like an easier way to find and keep up with > all the nice reports out there keeeping track of me. I think it would > help myslef and others do a better job if they were more accessable. > One suggestion i

Re: my.debian.org

2001-12-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 01:52:25PM +0100, Noel Koethe wrote: > > As a debian developer, I like an easier way to find and keep up with > > all the nice reports out there keeeping track of me. I think it would > > help myslef and others do a better job if they were more accessable. > > One suggestion

Re: my.debian.org

2001-12-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 12:00:14PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20011229 11:32]: > > BTW, why madison isn't packaged? We could package it and mention it > > in the developer reference. > > Because the tool requires

[wish] buildd.debian.org that shows success/failure

2002-01-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
I think that buildd.debian.org is really useful for all maintainers to know the status of last builds of their own packages. Anyway if a developer maintains several package he can easily reach tens and tens of build logs and looks for the result (success or failure) of every build in the "bymaint"

Re: [wish] buildd.debian.org that shows success/failure

2002-01-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 09:03:50PM -0600, Adam Majer wrote: > Different color.. something like keep it black for successful build but > mark it bold and red if it fails.. So at least bold would show up in lynx > if someone is still using it. > > No pictures, please... Yes, sure. I've just sent a

c++ and unrecognized -D option on ia64

2002-04-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
here because the failure seems to be due to the "c++" compiler that doesn't recognize the "-Dsomething" option. I can't reproduce the problem doing some stupid C++ test on merulo and the upstream author (CCed) doesn't have an IA64 machine to perform some test. A

Re: c++ and unrecognized -D option on ia64

2002-04-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:00:11PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > The toolchain was fubar on an IA64 build daemon host; see > http://bugs.debian.org/140969 . Thanks for the pointer, all is ok now and indeed gtkmathview was successfully built on ia64. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacc

please rebuild gtkmathview 0.3.0-4 on hppa, m68k and arm

2002-04-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ed as out of date on arm in update_excuses.html, anybody knows the reason? TIA, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Univ. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 33538863 | http://www.cs.unibo.it/~zacchiro "I know you believe you understood what you think I said, bu

gmetadom failure on HPPA never reported in update_excuses

2002-04-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
nly: * gmetadom (- to 0.0.3-5) + Maintainer: Stefano Zacchiroli + Too young, only 4 of 10 days old + Not considered Such a misleading output may cause a lot of trouble now that woody is (really) coming. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Univ. Bol

Re: gmetadom failure on HPPA never reported in update_excuses

2002-04-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ch? Thanks, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Univ. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 33538863 | http://www.cs.unibo.it/~zacchiro "I know you believe you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not wh

[REQ] rebuild gmetadom, gtkmathview and lablgtkmathview on HPPA

2002-04-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
. (They depends on each other in this order so the need is to: build one, install it and the proceed with the following one). TIA, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Univ. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 33538863 | http://www.cs.unibo.it/~zacchiro "I know you be

please upgrade libxslt package to 1.0.15

2002-04-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
#x27;t do it by himself? As a last resort I can NMU it, even if I'm not very in touch with the package nor with the upstream sources. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Univ. Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 33538863 | http://www.cs.unibo.it/~zacchiro &qu

Re: [REQ] rebuild gmetadom, gtkmathview and lablgtkmathview on HPPA

2002-04-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
o I asked here. > assuming your packages declare proper build-dependencies they will be > automatically rebuilt in the right order. I know, I've reported them only in case someone have to manual rebuild the packages. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergraduate student of CS @ Univ. Bologn

Re: Bug#514639: ITP: frei0r -- a minimalistic plugin API for video effects

2009-02-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t; Do you think I should mention that in the description field? Yes, definitely. Remember that the description should be enough for a random sysadm to understand whether she needs the package or not, and just "plugin" does not really help in that sense. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o

Re: Bug#514639: ITP: frei0r -- a minimalistic plugin API for video effects

2009-02-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
l Junk > Tools, MLT framework).". Cool, thanks. > You can follow the changes here: > http://git.dyne.org/index.cgi?url=frei0r/log/&h=debian Any reason for the project for not being hosted on the git repo of collab-maint? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Compute

Re: DDE, Debian Data Export

2009-02-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
, I think you should care more, in this early stage, about having the pieces you would need to specify a semantics. The first of such bits is probably the availability of unique identifiers that unambiguously identify entities exported via DDE. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Scienc

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
not just a matter of shouting "go and implement that". [3] link to the PDF: http://upsilon.cc/~zack/research/publications/debconf8-mancoosi.pdf , -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org}

Bug#515330: RFA: gpscorrelate

2009-02-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I'm looking for a new maintainer for the source package gpscorrelate, a tool to correlate digital photos with GPS data filling the relevant EXIF fields. The tool comes with a command line interface as well as a GUI, it is implemented in C++, has a responsive maintai

Re: Bug#515793: ITP: CGIT -- C-code Web Front-end to GIT

2009-02-18 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
again, show our support to non-DDs maintaining packages (sometime for the interim before becoming DDs, sometime not). Cheers. [1] http://www.debian.org/vote/2007/vote_003 -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debia

Re: Refactoring the Debtags web interface

2009-02-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
en in Debian. The last memory I've about this is a GSoC project from some years ago, which was not assigned to any student (or did not reach its goal FWIW). -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>-

Re: Proposal to improve package configuration upgrades

2009-02-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
file change conflicts are encountered. A usual /etc/*.d/ place where to stick some script with a well-defined API or something like that ... Would something like that be thinkable of or am I totally on crack? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{

Re: Proposal to improve package configuration upgrades

2009-02-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 06:03:03PM +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > > Actually, this is something I've been pondering about for a > > while. Having /etc under some VCS (as many of us, I presume, already > > have by the means of etckeeper and

Re: Proposal to improve package configuration upgrades

2009-02-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
d more readily available. But again, it looks to me that the two approaches can coexist. ... now it is only the two of us which needs to stop talking and start proposing patches as needed :-) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pp

Re: Proposal to improve package configuration upgrades

2009-02-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 07:07:30PM +0100, sean finney wrote: > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:14:23AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > Well, it depends on how dpkg currently handles merges. My impression > > (as a user, never looked at the actual code) is that it not even tries &

Re: Upcoming Section changes in the archive

2009-02-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
caml" section, which is your call, but if it does, well, ... heads up :-) The regex over binary package names would be "lib.*-ocaml.*", currently matching 160 binary packages in the APT database on my laptop (unstable + experimental). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Compu

Re: Upcoming Section changes in the archive

2009-02-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t; laptop (unstable + experimental). > > ocaml > ocaml-* > lib*ocaml* Yup, of course I forgot the first pattern in the former post. Actually, you can add also "*-ocaml" which would match also "dh-ocaml", our debhelper-like tools for OCaml-rel

Re: Upcoming Section changes in the archive

2009-02-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
they cannot be orthogonal), I believe that the above rule is quite agreed upon. Hence, IMHO, StumpWM should be in a section related to X11 or window managers, not in "lisp". Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,

Re: Proposal to improve package configuration upgrades

2009-02-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
> > But again, it looks to me that the two approaches can coexist. > > Absolutely: Something like try Config::Model, if it fails (missing > or incomplete model) may be VCS merge with mandatory user > interaction or usual ucf question. :-) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD

Re: Upcoming Section changes in the archive

2009-02-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ckages.debian.org/stable/, where something of the length I gave you I think can be useful for users, but I'm fine with the uber-short version too. Thanks! -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http:/

conffile renaming and other sh snippets for maintainer scripts

2009-03-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
should better be maintained by the dpkg team, but I guess having a separate source package can ease maintenance. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c&

Re: the files in /etc/modprobe.d/

2009-03-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
a must. /me just trying to understand whether I'm missing something of the global picture Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..|

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
. In fact, I'm starting to wonder whether he will pass the Turing test. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'

Re: the files in /etc/modprobe.d/

2009-03-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
usual. As long as the helper package maintainers are sane-minded, we will never have pre-dep loops. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un

Re: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 07:09:07PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > I don't know what ‘pristine-*’ refers to there. I get no result from > ‘apropos pristine’, so if you're referring to a command, I have no > corresponding manpage. See the pristine-tar package. -- Stefano Za

Re: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
n the deltas. The first time your tarball fetching tool will create the tarball and store its delta. The other times it will just use pristine-tar to check it out. ... but it starts looking like a bit hackish. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris

Re: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 11:30:14AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Stefano Zacchiroli [Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:25:23 +0100]: > > What you can do is probably have a 2 level architecture, with a VCS > > Debian-side which mirrors upstream VCS (easy with DVCS) but has in > > addition

Re: Prefix level in Quilt patches

2009-03-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e applied to until the package gets built with ‘dpkg-source’. You didn't give details about which tool you are using to support this work-flow. If it is topgit (which I'm personally using for that work-flow), I've just checked that it in my packages it produces -p1 quilt patc

Re: Bug#518869: ITP: shorewall6 -- Shoreline Firewall (IPv6 version), netfilter configurator

2009-03-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
support even though disabled by default. Why we now need a separate package now? Thanks in advance, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
more complex than legacy patch systems. Also, it requires serious git-fu if you get stuck. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne

Re: tex-common with triggers support

2009-03-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
tion will eventually notice that and close the bug. As usual. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je t

Re: BDF Considered Harmful?

2009-03-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
question I have and that hasn't been addressed by the original request is: what is the advantage to have BDF files in binary packages? Comments and copyright notices don't look like a real advantage to me. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ U

Re: BDF Considered Harmful?

2009-03-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
> advantage to me. > Copyright notices belong in /usr/share/doc/package/copyright. Does that answer my question? -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo

Re: BDF Considered Harmful?

2009-03-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
does not work in all cases. If this is so, we have another reason for this discussion to be pointless. Or am I missing something? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietr

Re: BDF Considered Harmful?

2009-03-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
nderful". So, until this is fixed, we are discussing a non viable solution. Agreed? It seems to me that the only remaining option for having .bdf.gz fonts accepted in binary packages would be to implement the needed changes to make them work. Also, you will need to address the issues r

Re: Bug#466550: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ncapsulation, in the sense that you can use uscan to implement it, but you are not forced to. What is the problem with that? It is like *the* point I'm missing in this whole discussion. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
olution that will require adding an "-include" to 15'000 thousands debian/rules; we will finish doing that by Lenny+50, the earliest. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://ups

Re: Bug#466550: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
can call "uscan" with its parameters, but you cannot implement that API with anything else. An API is something I expect to be able to implement in different ways; get-orig-source enables individual DDs to do that. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ.

Re: DebianWiki migrated

2009-03-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
nt to start *here* the discussion about which license to choose. I know there are people taking care of it in more appropriate discussion places. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/za

Re: DebianWiki migrated

2009-03-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
l let Frank Lin do that, if does not appear there in a couple of days I'll add it by myself. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| .

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-03-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
hat looks like a major differences in the two positions still. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas

Re: Fw: svnbuildstat, "Need build" status

2009-03-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 08:06:57PM +0100, Gonéri Le Bouder wrote: > Svnbuildstat is unmaintained for a while now. buildstat.d.n is the futur. Which currently refuses connections, is that expected? Just in case you overlooked it ... Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Scie

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
check that your convention matches such a markup language and please say explicitly so in your proposal. That would also implement a somewhat principle of least surprise for people coming from those languages. Thanks! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris

Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions

2009-03-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ith such a language. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno zaino ...|

Re: NEW processing

2009-03-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
bviously this is causing starvation. No, it is not (on the assumption that we have simultaneous people processing NEW which, AFAIK, is the case). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://ups

Re: grouping of alternative depends

2009-03-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
y allows dependency formulae in conjunctive normal form. Cheers. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjunctive_normal_form -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande

Re: grouping of alternative depends

2009-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
uldn't have been the right target to shoot at.) FWIW, I'm fine with CNF dependencies. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..

new virtual package: "readline-editor"

2009-04-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
y. Comments? Cheers. [1] An apparently more natural name could have been "line editor", but in the UNIX world it has been traditionally used to refer to things like "ed", and can be misleading. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7

Re: dash as default /bin/sh and bashisms-free archive RGs

2009-04-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
, what is exactly the problem? If you badly need bash-specific features you can use /bin/bash as the interpreter. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'

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