the whole bug more carefully. Again it's a
real miracle I saw your mail
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2004/09/msg2.html
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kludgy mechanism to allow easy migrations from one version to the
other.
IIUC RT has some problems in ``BC'' between the version, and that is sth
that I consider beeing a grave upstream problem.
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a lot of different versions : you have to maintain each of them, even
wrt security and stuff like that.
and expect most of the users to be confused by all thoses packages that
look like beeing the same, but are not
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ose by doing this?
we are unable to read encrypted DVD (quite all of them that means).
*but* I guess that this mplayer (I've not tested it though) is able to
dlopen the libdcss2 that is packaged on third party mirrors (e.g. on C.
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ackages that are on the archive when starting
from source+diff). But if one day BW is critical, there is a path to
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Le Lun 21 Février 2005 14:13, Peter Samuelson a écrit :
> [Pierre Habouzit]
>
> > I mean that you have no way to say for huge source packages : you
> > only need to build this , this, this and this pacakge. since the
> > changes I've made won't affect the othe
s, and that the performance loss is not too painfull.
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d to build a
package
dh-consoledata - Debhelper-based script to help packaging console data
file
dh-kpatches - Debhelper script to help packaging kernel patches
dh-make - Debianizing Tool for debhelper
dh-make-perl - Create debian packages from perl modules
and it seems to be quite sensible.
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over, or
whatever silly thing you may imagine
do we want to act like grownups and make such an internal audit ? or do
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have really large inboxes. I have had a number
> > of customers that have several GB inbox. They tend to get quite a
> > lot of attachments (reports etc) and do not have the time to delete
> > mail.
>
> File quotas will fix that in a hurry.
that's definetely a (sorry) stu
the other members of the vim maintaince team (Cc-ed)
> have neither as well I can apply the patch and come up with a
> suitable configuration file which is more in the vi spirit.
note that this is sth that quite a lot of distro already do : vi is a
mostly vi-compatible thing, and
://ftp.$country.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main contrib
It'll work better ...
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cision. Waiting for it now ...
>
> Greetings and thanks for info
> Steffen
the project decision is clear IMHO : read the php license, you'll see it
can only apply to the main and official PHP distribution.
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Ubuntu does not AFAICT the same size requirements as debian do for base,
and I really think that python upstream can understand that the *full*
python suite on a embeded device just does not makes sense.
To me, this looks like a bad excuse.
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he efforts in a team, rather than duplicating
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Le Jeu 16 Février 2006 11:21, David Gil a écrit :
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: David Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> * Package name : libphp-xajax
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; > else.
>
> The mirror split is a complicated endeavour. From what I understood,
> the NEW queue was put on hold on purpose until the split is
> complete.
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pend on package installation operations but
> instead invent something like "dpkg-hook --execute ldconfig" to run
> outstanding tasks noted under the name "ldconfig".
you also need a way to enforce the run, e.g. if you change your libc,
you may want to run the ldconfig ASAP, and
Le Lun 13 Mars 2006 19:46, Eduard Bloch a écrit :
> #include
>
> * Pierre Habouzit [Mon, Mar 13 2006, 07:16:22PM]:
> > > What is a depends? Do you mean dependency or dependents?
> > > Further, I would not depend on package installation operations
> > > but inst
f DDs
that need you to rule about them.
The project is really going insane.
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Le Mer 15 Mars 2006 15:05, Andres Salomon a écrit :
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 11:25 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > Le Mer 15 Mars 2006 03:01, Andres Salomon a écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am going through the expulsion process to have Sven Luther
> > &
;s sad.
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n the machine, I need to be able to use
@reboot to restart
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uffer from all those problems, and that would be happy to find
some other developper that shares the same problems.
so, maybe (and I hope so) it won't have d-devel traffic. but I really
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video". Any thoughts on this?
multimedia seems more appropriate. most of the video player actually are
music player too, and some music player can show video with appropriate
plugins (xmms e.g.)
though, that would mean that 'sound' won't have that many package. so
maybe we sho
a
that is not very informative.
the same holds for ogle or other DE front-ends to popular midia players.
I agree kde and gnome sections are completely uninformative, though they
are useful too in order to categorize apps that belongs to those
desktops environments (not all
Le Dim 29 Mai 2005 11:38, Mark Purcell a écrit :
> * URL : http://www.twinklephone.org/
I guess you meant .com ? the .org one does not exists.
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llow moore's law) ... but I find hard to believe that hardware is the
reason why we cannot manage many arches.
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e or any big c++
application to build on slow/rare arches, I guess that will ease the
autobuilders a lot too, not only the archive.
maybe the solution is to write a [EMAIL PROTECTED] (like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] does) in order to ease the autobuilders :D (kidding of
cours
e can imagin a 'job' server that allow you to build bits of debian
packages at home. not necessarily C source ;)
and then debian servers only check it's coherent
I know, this is completely ScFi
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nd that is
those package that often need the more help and need always more
manpower.
[1] http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/kdelibs/
[2] there is a lot of ways to do that : rss feeds, ML's, ...
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that they already have 3.4.1
packages ready and uploaded, that they are preparing the gcc-4.0
transition, ... nice... I never saw anything like this on our lists,
and we will have to go through the same road... but this has not been
discussed ... I&#x
: (GPL, LGPL, BSD, MIT/X, etc.)
> Description : ITP: imlib+png2 - mentoring applicant needing
> package
are you kidding us ? those apps are in debian, you are flooding the list
with irelevant mails. please stop
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* Package name: whitelister
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the feed with konqueror or firefox,
you'll see that the xml is not valid.
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ven worse : planet debian en-malform xml.
create a blog entry with title "foo & bar" ... you'll see, your &
will be translated as & in the rss feed of your blog entry, and as &
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it, as this will set a bad precedence.
why that ?
I don't understand what would be wrong with having a symlink in /bin ...
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e used as a default rule for email filtering.
I'd prefer to see some tools like dspam/bogofilter/... used instead of
the heavy and not efficient enought SA.
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Le Ven 17 Juin 2005 01:42, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 03:09:47PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > Le Jeu 16 Juin 2005 14:33, Santiago Vila a écrit :
> > > Now that we have released sarge, I would like to ask debian-admin
> > > and the Project L
Le Ven 17 Juin 2005 14:13, Steve Greenland a écrit :
> On 17-Jun-05, 01:41 (CDT), Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > the delay it creates. [...] but for our @debian.org addresses ...
> > that sucks, I often rely on the fact that delivery is immediate on
> >
tools for debian, but I
can help if any help is welcomed/wanted/...
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Though, I have configured my SMTP server to use smtp.free.fr (which is
the SMTP server of my ISP) as the default route for my mail, since I've
had too many problems wrt my IP. And believe me, it's *really*
displeasing to be blacklisted as a dialup line.
Le Lun 20 Juin 2005 09:58, Russell Coker a écrit :
> On Saturday 18 June 2005 01:33, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > you didn't read one of my first posts : when the mail you receive
> > comes from a big big big MX, and that they see a greylisted dom
Le Lun 20 Juin 2005 09:51, Russell Coker a écrit :
> On Saturday 18 June 2005 01:07, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > I perfectly understand what SMTP is, and I perfectly *don't*
> > understand why having a 30 minutes delay or even a 2 or 3 hours
>
ice providers.
I personnally use my @debian.org address in order to filter all my
Debian related mail, including if not real time, at least quite fast
discussion.
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(only having an alioth account is required) and
maintain those inside our svn.
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Le Lun 27 Juin 2005 10:14, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen a écrit :
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I fully disagree, greylisting is really painful
>
> Since this is contrary to my experience with greylisting, I'd like to
> hear more about your experiences
Le Mar 28 Juin 2005 08:36, Bob Proulx a écrit :
> Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > Le Lun 27 Juin 2005 10:14, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen a écrit :
> > > Since this is contrary to my experience with greylisting, I'd
> > > like to hear more about your experiences wit
id option,
especially if etch isn't ready in the year (which seems not really
sensible/possible/...).
IMHO, either amd64/pure64/... will become a release arch and in that
case we have to have a solution for multiarch, either amd64 is not a
released arch .. and that bothers me.
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there is IMHO some benefit to use qemu (e.g.) in its 32bits version
when it emulate a 32bits host (maybe I'm wrong, but it sounds sensible)
...
so since it does not looks like only a gadget, and that IMHO it's even
often needed ... we should have a solution for this.
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* Package name: proxsmtp
Version : 1.2.1
Upstream Author : Nate Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.example.org/
* License : BSD (http://memberwebs
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Le dim 30 juillet 2006 07:19, Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit :
> Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit :
> > > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > it seems that guile 1.6.8 is buggy
ll be announced and coordinated with the RM
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advertising, but exists.
[1] http://bugs.debian.org/from:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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central implementation choice)
You should also mention that a package that mixes many of the previous
items *SHOULD* depend of all the pythonX.Y from the (1) clauses, and
the smallest range obtained from the (2)'s. and a
python (>= X.Y) | p
Le mar 8 août 2006 00:18, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
> § 2.3.3, 2.4.2, 2.5.3, 2.6.2:
> *here* the python$version alternative is correct,
> because /extensions/ can be used with a '/usr/bin/python' as soon
> as the python current version is in their supported range.
>
on.com/software/manoj-policy/
very nice. I'm going to review it comparing it with the initial python
policy by J.Wreschnig so that I'm sure we have not left anything apart,
or contradicted vital points.
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and vmware-modules-source packages based on an installation tarball
> (a la java-package).
why would we need it when there is already quite plenty of good free
alternatives (qemu, bochs e.g.) ?
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Le dim 13 août 2006 15:24, Adrian von Bidder a écrit :
> On Sunday 13 August 2006 02:25, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > Le dim 13 août 2006 02:06, Peter Collingbourne a écrit :
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I found there were no VMware-related packages in the offic
ch python alsa answer
nothing for me ...
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/usr/lib/games/$pkg and /usr/share/games/$pkg. If he
finds a .so in there, he uses objdump to find out if the .so is python
related or not, and acts accordingly.
It just dont need current/current_ext at all, and uses different
implementations choices. that's all.
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> > package supplied scripts are called with the parameter:
> > pre-rtupdate
> >
> > A failure in any script results in the failure of the
> >pre-installation script of the python package.
> >
added or removed?
actually,it's not truly needed, it's needed iff a package do needs the
new provides or not.
and those reuploads are kind of binNMUs, the real problem here is that
tehre is no arch:all binNMU and maybe that's here the problem that need
fixi
if
needed, so that that GR can come, and that we know where we are going
instead of guessing.
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2006/08/msg00032.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2006/08/msg00215.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2006/08/msg00185.html
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ely a tendency to inflame discussions for
> nothing. You've used me to expect better from you.
this dig is obviously meant to calm things down…
Not to mention that *you* are wrong and that Mike is right, there is
currently only 7 blob's that we
ython24 takes 15.576s to be
generated, the same page on the bts is twice as fast to show up.
the idea is brilliant, but it does not seems to be a major improvement
yet.
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ing about how many of the blocks which are not listed
> as depending on udev actually do.
your point beeing ?
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ation to talk to to perform
an upload. We have enough administrivia already.
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is completely inadequate, and whitelisting
any @bugs.debian.org From address is trivial.
I've already stated it, and I do it again: I do consider ok that the
Maintainer field of some co-maintained package is a list, that really
makes sense, but *that* list should never ever use sender-based
m
Le lun 11 septembre 2006 15:36, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit :
> * Pierre Habouzit
>
> | I've already stated it, and I do it again: I do consider ok that
> | the Maintainer field of some co-maintained package is a list, that
> | really makes sense, but *that* list should never ever
(mbox file) at http://people.debian.org/~tbm/logs/1394.bz2
FWIW the package libraw1394 has been adopted by Ludovic Reslinger, and I
sponsored its upload recently, it's currently in NEW, maybe that new
upload fixes the problem ?
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* Package name: eaccelerator
Version : 0.9.5~rc1
Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.eaccelerator.net/
* License : GPL V2
Programming Lang: C
Le dim 17 septembre 2006 16:11, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
> Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
bah stupid template...
reportbug should barf when such things are forgotten :|
anyway the package is in NEW, and debian/copyright is ok
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Le dim 17 septembre 2006 19:35, Roberto C. Sanchez a écrit :
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 06:07:57PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > Le dim 17 septembre 2006 16:11, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
> > > Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > bah stupid
Le dim 17 septembre 2006 19:57, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
> Le dim 17 septembre 2006 19:35, Roberto C. Sanchez a écrit :
> > On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 06:07:57PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > > Le dim 17 septembre 2006 16:11, Pierre Habouzit a écrit :
> > > >
-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 03:34:34PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 02:31:54AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
> Can I ask why you people (not only you Pierre, generic qu
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 08:27:30PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 03:34:34PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > It would help if related votes would be kept out of debian-devel.
> honnest mistake, due like Roland said, to the fact that the
ack quite
esaily a makefile using quilt and debian/patches/series +
debian/patches/series.$(arch) if it exists e.g.
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ause it
begins to take too much importance in a project that has among its key
principles: transparency and openess.
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fact
that the upstream's website is poorly worded is not a very good excuse.
I've read the .pdf manual, and to me it's still unclear why context
should be better than the good old latex distro ;)
PS: you made a mistake the web site is .nl and not .com
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 09:25:59PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 07:53:30PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > technically that's hard to do when you don't know it yet ;) the fact
>
> Just googling around I stumbled on this document titled &
(1)
reconsider, (2) explain himself about that.
Kindly,
[1] http://blog.aurel32.net/?p=33
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:03:35PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> I happened to have had access to the internet during my vacation, and
> I happened to read a backlog on #debian-release that frightens me:
>
> [...]
>
> So, why :
> * does aurelien initi
t; autobuilder) just look at [1], whereas every single arch is
keeping up quietly, arm and sparc seem to go to the deepness of hell. I
don't know who are the sparc buildd admins, but for sure, the arm port
do not seem to be that well.
[1] http://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph2-week
d not be enough fun else.
[1] For the record, I don't like Sender Verify either, it has very
poor properties, but the sole argument against it, that has some
kind of value is that spammers can use it the same way to validate
their databases. Hence it can make genu
arguments for each of your binary packages.
Maybe what could be done is to write a new helper or extend
dh_installdocs to have such a behaviour.
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On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 04:28:59PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> On 1/2/07, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 03:44:10PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I find it wasteful to install the same
n proposed on -project rather than devel. But I suppose google
will know about it.
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On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 12:05:03AM +0100, Nico Golde wrote:
> Hi,
> * Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-01-03 23:53]:
> > On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 05:32:52PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > > Today I was trying to explain to a friend the concept of using
ow it seem unfair to be judged after this, but
well, you can't blame people for judging the iceberg just looking at
what is outside from the see. *shrug*
> Honestly, it was not my intent to insult anybody. I'm sorry if I did.
> But, being the s
ackages at all, that just set the name of those who worked the most on
them, and that are responsible for QA and so on.
In a packaging group, the rule that shall be implicit is that
everybody can touch "everybody's" package, except if specifically
documented so (with an excellent
t makes a mail the user does not really expect, and with the
current spam rates, one-more-mail is painful ;
- that looks very rough and disordered ;
- ...
PLEASE do NOT moderate lists that are listed as a Maintainer/Uploader.
If you still want to do so, PLEASE STOP sending the notifica
is in fact MIA.
Last-action of a DD is computed using many ways, uploads of package
where he is in Maintainer/Uploader beeing among them, and it hides real
MIAs from the mia tracking scripts, and that's bad, because it prevent
good QA work, and generate more and more bitrot.
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·O· Pierre
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:42:11AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit dijo [Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 11:58:49AM +0100]:
> > > Uh? Why? Your maintainer field seems to address this issue. In our
> > > scheme that's would be more a problem, but if the mailing list is
&g
to fix them.
I suppose there is some stubs here to do some MIA-hunt and cleaning of
the archive.
[1] http://buildd.debian.org/stats/?arch=amd64&state=Failed
regards,
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to nmu
in delayed/7 without warning ?
If yes, you can count on me
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Le Dim 9 Avril 2006 14:18, Kurt Roeckx a écrit :
> On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 09:47:25PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > Le Ven 7 Avril 2006 20:33, Kurt Roeckx a écrit :
> > > > A lot of the others simply need to desupport old versions of
> > > > Python.
> >
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