Re: Handling of (inactive) Debian Accounts

2007-02-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 03:35:27PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:42:47 -0500, Joe Smith > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > I would hope that there would be a grace period after deactivation, > > I suggest you read the original mail before pa

Re: Handling of (inactive) Debian Accounts

2007-02-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 07:47:48AM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, you're perfectly right. That's the best advice one could give to > not so active DD who doesn't want to lose much time («"lose" the time to > vote so you don't "lose" the time in NM»). But as someone sai

Re: GNOME and usability.

2007-02-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 09:09:35PM -0500, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seems I am not the only one that believes GNOME is limiting. > > Linus Torvalds has submitted patches. I am betting they get ignored or > rejected with "to complex for our idiot users". > > Yes, Joss could you pl

Re: /foo has been mounted xx times... check forced

2007-02-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 11:36:21AM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:29:46 +0900 > > Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > how about a "I'm in a hurry" boot option in GRUB, which would make the > > > e2fscks s

Re: Where did Bacula 1.38.11-7+b1 come from?

2007-02-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 11:53:23AM -0600, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 22-Feb-07, 11:00 (CST), Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (This problem was reported in bug #411652) > > > > > > I think someone deserves a serious thwacking... > > > > Maybe the maintainer for

Re: Where did Bacula 1.38.11-7+b1 come from?

2007-02-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 07:31:46PM +0100, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 22 February 2007 19:26, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > 1. Add a Build-dependency on dpkg-dev (>=1.13.19) > > 2. For all in bacula-foo packages that are arch:all replace any > > occurence of > > Depends: bacula-

Re: Where did Bacula 1.38.11-7+b1 come from?

2007-02-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 07:57:07PM +0100, Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 07:31:46PM +0100, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> On Thursday 22 February 2007 19:

Re: Where did Bacula 1.38.11-7+b1 come from?

2007-02-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 12:57:52PM -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 07:31:46PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > > On Thursday 22 February 2007 19:26, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > > 1. Add a Build-dependency on dpkg-dev (>=1.13.19) > > > 2. For all in bacula-foo packa

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:57:46AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:20:31AM +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:35:48PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > OK. But is there not a fairly sizeable team working on KDE packaging >

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:01:17PM -0600, Reid Priedhorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:10:12 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > > Now, the iceape case is interesting: *you* (as in, the one complaining > > about rotting bugs) are also allowed to help

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:03:39AM +0100, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And not only when bug are fixed don't we get feedback. We sometimes also > face non-responsiveness to our requests for more precisions on the bug... Ironically, most of the time, this happens wi

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:42:12PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:37:10PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > > Thus, if you have a package with any unanswered important or normal > > bugs, it will not progress. In order to assure propogation, you

0-day bug forwarding and bug patching on MOZILLA bugs

2007-02-27 Thread Mike Hommey
You've read this correctly! Starting NOW, we are in permanent bug triaging, bug forwarding, but patching party on ALL MOZILLA bugs, pick one before it's too late! You may immediately take any MOZILLA bugs which didn't receive due care and forward it upstream and/or send a patch to it and/or

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 07:26:24PM +0100, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le mercredi 28 février 2007 à 18:00 +0100, Sam Hocevar a écrit : > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > But it seems like you maintain only few simple packages. > > > >Did you really just say

Re: co-mentor for a GSoC proposal wanted: debbugs web submission

2007-03-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:01:06PM -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le jeudi 15 mars 2007 à 20:34 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez a écrit : > > > What will a web interface provide that cannot be found/done by browsing > > > http://bugs.de

Re: co-mentor for a GSoC proposal wanted: debbugs web submission

2007-03-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 02:21:02PM -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So to summarize you want tags which have the ability to be mutually > exclusive? That could be a part of the solution. What I believe is necessary is a workflow for the bug, pretty much like the one with bugzilla

Re: Bugreport: kqemu results in kernel panic of the guest systems

2007-03-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 09:01:18AM +0100, Rick Rocker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear debian devs, > > I don't know how to input bug reports into bugzilla so > I want to report a bug in Etch here: (...) This is a known bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=402289 Mike --

Re: ITA/RFS: libspf2 -- Sender Policy Framework library, written in C

2007-03-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 08:23:38PM +0100, Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (...) Have not taken a look at the package, but does the short description > Description: Sender Policy Framework library, written in C really have to say "written in C" ? Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

Re: video codecs in HTML 5

2007-03-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 01:39:34PM +, Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2007-03-24 at 14:26 +0100, Maik Merten wrote: > > Martijn van Oosterhout schrieb: > > > Sorry, this doesn't follow. Calling the tag is completely > > > orthoginal to whether it's implemented by a plugin or no

Bug#416150: ITP: nspr -- NetScape Portable Runtime Library

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Hommey
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: nspr Version : 4.6.6 Upstream Author : Mozilla Project * URL : http://www.mozilla.org/projects/nspr/ * License : GPL/LGPL/MPL Programming Lang: C Descr

Bug#416151: ITP: nss -- Network Security Service libraries

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Hommey
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: nss Version : 3.11.5 Upstream Author : Mozilla Project * URL : http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/nss/ * License : GPL/LGPL/MPL Programming Lang: C Descr

Re: Ethernet interface numbering in etch

2007-03-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 12:06:09AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After writing a very long message, I realize that there was a much simpler > solution, so if you want to cut to the chase, skip to the end! > > Steve Langasek wrote: > >Which do you think is the common case -

Re: Attempted summary and thoughts (was Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs)

2007-03-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 09:38:24PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > People should be given assistance and encouragement in > > doing it. I actually like doing it, but I have unfortunately relatively > > little time (sick family members). > > > I like doing bug triage as w

Re: Announcing the Smith Review Project: proofreading English in Debian packages texts

2007-04-01 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 07:37:47PM +0200, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please welcome the Smith Review Project to the galaxy of Debian projects. > > Project presentation > > This work is intended to continue all through the etch->lenny release > cycle and be

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > * Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070409 10:00]: > > > > I think we should push the multi-arch media. Particularly, the > > > x86/amd64/powerpc one can boot something like 99% of all the hardware

Re: /etc/udev/rules.d non-symlinks

2007-04-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 02:50:58PM -0400, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm proposing that we change our de-facto policy for handling of files > in /etc/udev/rules.d. Currently it is this (from udev's README.Debian): > > Packages should NEVER create files in /etc/udev/rules.d/, but crea

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 08:35:50PM +0200, Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 17:32 +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:22:37 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > > > > > dmidecode output is a big problem. It includes machine UUID and serial > >

Re: lintian.debian.org back up and running

2007-04-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 05:22:39PM -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello all, > > lintian.debian.org has been updated to lintian 1.23.29 and should now be > up to date. As of today, it should resume its daily update cycle. >

Re: lintian.debian.org back up and running

2007-04-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 08:56:13AM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 05:22:39PM -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hello all, > > &g

Re: Beryl Maintainer

2007-04-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 10:00:48AM -0400, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 11:38:39AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:55:30AM -0500, Shawn Starr wrote: > > > On Wednesday 14 February 2007 00:27, Anibal Avelar wrote: > > > > Hi. I see you h

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 09:44:28PM +0200, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 08:39:26PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > After getting some positive feedback on this from a blog entry and > > personal mail, I wondered if the idea deserves a wider airing. > > > > htt

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 08:26:38PM -0400, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Brown wrote: > > I'd be interested to see some numbers on the archive size impact - my > > experience with C++ suggests that the size inflation caused by debug > > symbols can be enormous. > > I don't know about

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 11:28:06PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 07:38:15AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 08:26:38PM -0400, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Mark Brown wrote: &

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 07:10:15PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 07:06:55PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > The point is that it's pretty useless to have a backtrace without line > > numbers. It would be interesting if t

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 02:12:39PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 24 avril 2007 à 12:58 +0200, Reinhard Tartler a écrit : > > Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Installing debugging symbols for all binaries involved in a crash > > > seems... heavyweight. I would expect

Re: Bug#422423: ITP: libtool-cvs -- Generic library support script - CVS snapshot

2007-05-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 10:01:32PM +0200, Piotr Roszatycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Piotr Roszatycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: libtool-cvs > Version : 2.1a (2007-04-10) > Upst

Re: Bug#422137: ITP: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 -- l33t h4x0r numb3r

2007-05-05 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 11:05:12PM +0200, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le samedi 05 mai 2007 à 13:00 -0500, Gunnar Wolf a écrit : > > ...Or would it be better to register it as a project in Alioth? It > > would be located at > > http://alioth.debian.org/projects/09F911029D74E35BD8

Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor

2007-05-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 04:13:20AM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:00:28AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 12:14:17AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > > On 11012 March 1977, Nico Golde wrote: > > > > > would it be a big change

Re: Mysterious NMU (Bug #423455)

2007-05-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 03:49:07PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 09:24:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Maybe I misunderstand, but wouldn't something like (>= 1.0.1-1) and (<< > > 1.0.1-2

Re: Bug#425050: initramfs-tools: Ask if we should update all initramfses

2007-05-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 04:35:27PM +0200, David Härdeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:08:02AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > >Anyway, I propose that update-initramfs just loses the -k switch or > >provides a new wrapper that packages like cryptsetup and mdadm just > >ca

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 07:27:36PM +0200, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 2007-05-22 13:30:24, schrieb Sam Hocevar: > > 3. Nexenta: Despite their incompatibility, Debian accepts both the > > CDDL and GPLv2 as valid free software licences and would welcome any >

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 10:47:10PM +0200, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le samedi 26 mai 2007 à 22:35 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > > Another important point: such a system would help a lot to obtain lower > > > testing migration times, but it would not help backports at all

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 04:04:10PM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 10:09:44PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le samedi 26 mai 2007 à 21:06 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > > Hello, > > > > in the list of things that we can do to make it more easy

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 02:13:47AM +0200, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 27 May 2007 01:53, David Nusinow wrote: > > The only thing I've ever heard about helping out with the website is > > that it's a herculean task that no mere mortal should attempt. > > Yes, a complete redesig

Re: Web design [Was: Wanted: introductory page for all teams]

2007-05-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 11:35:26AM +0200, Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 27 May 2007, Frans Pop wrote: > > >Yes, a complete redesign of the website is a herculean task, but > >contributing to specific pages or parts is trivial. OTOH, I expect that > >for a webdesign profession

Re: http://utnubu.alioth.debian.org/scottish/ still used?

2007-05-31 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 02:46:32PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: > Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > > This might be too obvious, but: did you check whether Ubuntu/Scott would be > > willing to provide a per-maintainer indexed version on their > > patches.ubuntu.com? > > I asked him in February excately t

Re: Why not move Apt to a relational database

2007-06-03 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 12:24:04PM +0200, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Justin Emmanuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.06.03.1155 +0200]: > > I am brand new to this mailing list, I joined it because I had an > > idea that I would like to have considered. Moving apt to > > a r

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-06-03 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 12:37:08PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:02:37PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Right, I read your message too quickly, sorry. However the maintainer > > can change the symbols file in his package and update the dependency

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-06-03 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 10:51:24PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 07:52:40PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 19:32 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > > Pierre explained that a sane library maintainer could/would use a new

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-04 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:54:30AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Library maintainers who want to avoid any mistakes can use the "-c" option > (for compare) which will make the compilation fail if the generated > symbols file differ from the maintainer supplied file. In that c

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-04 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 02:32:10PM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:29:07PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le lundi 04 juin 2007 à 21:29 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > > > Again, this doesn't take into account existing symbols that change thei

How is bugs.txt generated on qa.d.o ?

2007-06-04 Thread Mike Hommey
Hi, How is generated the following file ? http://qa.debian.org/data/ddpo/results/bugs.txt I'm asking because it usually happens that it contains broken entries, such as, currently: information:==searching:0(0) 1(1) 0(0) 0(0) ca`result:===for:0(0) 1(1) 0(0) 0(0) reproduce:=

Re: How is bugs.txt generated on qa.d.o ?

2007-06-06 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:38:47AM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > How is generated the following file ? > http://qa.debian.org/data/ddpo/results/bugs.txt > > I'm asking because it usually happens that it contains broken entries, > s

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-06 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:02:59PM -0400, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [1] #363133 > [2] Would it be worthwhile to support multiple symbols on one line to > save even more space? > symbol [symbol...] dependencies... It would be much more worth to drop the package name from the

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-06 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 01:32:34PM -0400, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anthony Towns wrote: > > Debug packages: (369MB) (not arch:all) > > 53959746 boson-dbg > > 55430908 icedove-dbg > > 56274922 koffice-dbg > > 59787420 iceape-dbg > > 86404478 libgl1-mesa-dri-dbg

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 05:39:56PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The real lib has precedence over the provided symbols file. > > - any new symbol is added and marked with mininal version being the current > > version of the package > > - a symbol that disappeared is marked

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:28:35PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Otherwise, the discussions in this thread lead to several interesting > points (listed in the TODO in the repository) which will require some > rewrite and optimization of the format of the symbols file. I'll up

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 06:59:49PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:31:37AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:27:26AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > Diskspace *is* a problem for mirrors, as is bandwidth in many countries. >

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 07:03:47AM +0200, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > upgrade path for two releases now, with its Recommends: handling being a > > major reason for this. I'd be surprised if there weren't at least *some* > > users switching to it as a result. > > > Developer

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 09:55:35PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 11 June 2007 21:41, Joey Hess wrote: > > Alex Queiroz wrote: > > > On 6/11/07, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024. > > > > >

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-12 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 09:25:13PM +, Evgeni Golov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:42:08 -0300 Paulo Marcondes wrote: > > > billion = 10^6 * 10^6 (IIRC, as used in Portugal - no jokes here!) > > =10^12 :) > > and Germany, France, former UdSSR, Anywhere where milliard i

Bug#428855: ITP: webkit -- HTML rendering engine library

2007-06-14 Thread Mike Hommey
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: webkit Version : svn snapshot Upstream Author : Apple Computer Inc. * URL : http://www.webkit.org/ * License : mixed LGPL and BSD Programming Lang: C, C++ Descr

Re: Bug#428855: ITP: webkit -- HTML rendering engine library

2007-06-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:39:37PM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: webkit > Version : svn snapshot > Upstream Author : Apple Compute

Re: Bug#428855: ITP: webkit -- HTML rendering engine library

2007-06-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 03:23:26PM -0500, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >A private reply to this ITP made me realize I didn't specify it: both > >the QT and Gtk backend will be provided. > > In the same package? If so, wouldn't that possible pull in packages > unneeded by the rest of

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 09:50:48AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le dimanche 17 juin 2007 à 15:00 +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > > - we have different levels of check that can make dpkg-gensymbols fail > > > (w

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 10:08:36AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > The generated file is updated... and the file in the source package > > > doesn't need to be updated so often. Additionnaly you c

Re: Automated mails to maintainers of packages with serious problems

2007-06-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 11:41:22AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Checking for packages in NEW looks complex: I would have to look at the > changes file to see if the bugs I'm going to mail about are actually > being closed. And I can't extrapolate whether the upload w

Re: Bug#432310: ITP: umtsmon -- Use it to control UMTS/GPRS cards in notebooks

2007-07-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:49:20PM +0200, Andreas Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Package: ITP: umtsmon -- Use it to control UMTS/GPRS cards in notebooks > Version: 0.6-1 > > Hi! > I use this tool for configuring my UMTS card with a GUI. As it is not > (yet) in the debian repositories I creat

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 10:55:00AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But if the display manager is only worth 2 cents, it's Debian default > configuration should get it from the place where all window managers > give proper notice of their existance, which is the Debian menu. >

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 02:26:05PM +0200, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > #include > * Josselin Mouette [Sat, Jul 14 2007, 02:26:55AM]: > > Le vendredi 13 juillet 2007 à 17:16 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > > > Oh my. Do you mean that in the 90 window managers shipped in Debian, >

Re: Policy or best practices for debug packages?

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 08:08:39AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There doesn't seem to be anything in policy about debug packages, are > there any wiki pages or best practices documents about what are the best > ways to create debug packages? > > Some of the questions I hav

Re: Policy or best practices for debug packages?

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 10:56:14AM -0400, Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried putting them in -dev, and lintian complains with a warning. > So I guess while it isn't official policy yet, it seems to be the > general practice. The e2fsprogs source package just grew an extra 7 > binar

Re: Policy or best practices for debug packages?

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 10:56:14AM -0400, Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > True, although it means there's a bit more work to actually install > the source package, and then running "./debian/rules build" in order > to make sure the sources are unpacked and patches appropriately > applied

Re: Policy or best practices for debug packages?

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 12:03:40PM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote: > > And she won't have a core for the > > previous crash because the default is not to core (and BTW, it's uselessly > > made difficult to override this, see #487879). > > I just looked at this bug, and are you sure this isn't because y

Re: Policy or best practices for debug packages?

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 07:48:27PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Speaking of the -g option, does anyone know off-hand whether or not > > it's worth it to build with -g3 (to get cpp macro definitions into the > > DWARF stubs)? > > -g3 is also needed to

Re: Policy or best practices for debug packages?

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 05:42:47PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > I wouldn't want them in the archive for everything, but it would be > nice to be able to generate automatically usable source packages. > Also debug packages without having to create them in debian/control > and debian/rules. Tha

Re: Policy or best practices for debug packages?

2008-07-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:00:38AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 10:06:40PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> Correct line numbers when dealing with inline templates, for one. > >> There were some other niceties, but I can't re

Re: .desktop files of GNOME apps and path to these applications

2008-07-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:01:47PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 02:46:22PM +0200, Vincent Zweije wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 01:14:25PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > || The .desktop file distributed with the evince package > > || (/usr/share/applicati

Re: Re: Include on first iso: m-a, build essential, kernel headers

2008-07-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:21:14PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:53:24PM +0200, richs wrote: >> I think that including headers, m-a and build essential would be a good >> move for the developers. Other distros have out-of-the-box non-free >> and proprietary apps/dr

Re: Clarification about bug #463538 is needed

2008-07-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 09:28:03PM +0400, Sergei Golovan wrote: > On 7/19/08, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Umm, if that patch fixes it (removing the TIOCSCTTY) then it seems to > > me that the erlang-based service will instead exit when the user who > > installed the

Re: dhclient-script, hooks, and changing the environment

2008-08-06 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 11:41:39PM -0300, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.08.06.2242 -0300]: > > Packages that come to mind that want to alter the environment of it > > parent are: > > > >* ssh-agent > > You have to eval the output, no? > > >*

Re: people.debian.org to move to ravel

2008-08-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 02:00:31PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > Once you are satisfied with the content on newpeople you can instruct > apache on oldpeople to redirect requests to the new place. On gluck > do the following: > echo "RewriteEngine on"

Re: people.debian.org to move to ravel

2008-08-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 03:05:13PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Or simpler and not requiring mod_rewrite: > > echo "Redirect /~$USER/ http://newpeople.debian.org/~$USER/"; > > &g

Re: Anyone looked at Chromium for Debian yet?

2008-09-03 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 02:13:34PM +0100, Noah Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > > Has anyone looked at packaging Chromium for Debian yet? > > http://code.google.com/chromium/ > http://dev.chromium.org/developers/ > http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/src/chrome/ > > Looks like a 3-

Re: Anyone looked at Chromium for Debian yet?

2008-09-03 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 05:44:45PM +0200, Franklin PIAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 02:13:34PM +0100, Noah Slater wrote: > >> > >> Has anyone looked at packaging Chromium for Debian yet? > >> > &g

Re: Headsup: ncurses soname bump 5 to 6

2008-09-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 05:07:01PM +0200, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:02:14PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 14:39 +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > > > Indeed, what would this imply for our LSB compatibility? > > > > > > http:/

Re: Headsup: ncurses soname bump 5 to 6

2008-09-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 01:40:14PM -0700, Dan Kegel wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> from the upstream POV, this would be another ABI transition. > > > > If there's no patch, there's nothing to discuss, then. > > Going forward, though, ca

Re: EULA as well: xsane

2008-09-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:41:57AM +0100, Robert Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:27:44AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > > In lenny we have none such packages that I know of. How about we start to > > make policy when there's a real problem to be solved, and spend ou

Re: DELAYED queue and upload hostname

2008-09-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 06:30:55PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > ftp.upload.debian.org > - > To untie the upload queue from the archive DSA setup an alias to be used > for future uploads. Please change your configuration of dput, dupload or > whatever you use to no longer use ft

Re: List of RC-buggy source packages by maintainer/uploader

2008-10-06 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 09:28:51PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >webkit (U) >xulrunner These two are only waiting for migration (unblock already in place) iceweasel is another story. 2 of the RCs are about upstream security releases, that might actually be xulrunner issues (I still have to

Re: Bug#500176: This bug is still around and release-critical

2008-10-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 09:07:00AM +0200, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.10.08.1054 +0200]: > > FWIW I've upgraded a machine to replace pdnsd with unbound, it hit that > > bug of course. > [...] > > I don't think this is too hard

Re: Bug sprint !

2008-10-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:55:46AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 07:50:10PM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > > OoO En ce début d'après-midi nuageux du vendredi 10 octobre 2008, vers > > 14:04, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait : > > > > The rules are : at the end

Re: For those who don't learn to choose sane subjects (Was: For those who care ...)

2008-11-23 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 07:45:58AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > >> Could we fucking stop repeating the same old discussions over and over >> and over ? every two year we troll about firmwares, bad jokes on d-d-a, >> what else ? >> >> COULD ... > > Bing

Re: Packages still depending on GTK+ 1.2

2008-12-06 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 01:50:44AM +0100, Morten Kjeldgaard wrote: > > On 06/12/2008, at 00.09, Michael Banck wrote: > >>> There are several useful science programs that still make use of GTK+ >>> 1.2, one is a very useful chemistry program, GAMGI, which is in the >>> new >>> queue and on its way

Re: Packages still depending on GTK+ 1.2

2008-12-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 08:48:34AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 04:25:56PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf a écrit : > > All sorts of programming practices > > that have become obsoleted (or outright shown to be dangerous) over > > the years. As an example - Around ten years ago few pe

Re: Packages still depending on GTK+ 1.2

2008-12-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 02:08:48PM +0100, Morten Kjeldgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Neil & Gunner, > > Thank you for your long, detailed and convincing postings in this > thread. I really appreciate it! The argument that finally made me > surrender was that time is perhaps better spent

Re: problems with the concept of unstable -> testing

2008-12-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 08:58:40AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:52:53PM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > Didier Raboud schrieb: > > > > ? > > > > Something like that, I don't really care about the name. The important > > thing is, that unstable is never frozen, but t

Re: Josselin Mouette and Planet Debian

2008-12-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 07:07:35PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Friday 19 December 2008 19:56, Johannes Wiedersich > wrote: > > What slightly upsets me about the issue is not what happened, but rather > > that the French appear so arrogant as to think what happened on a world > > wide announc

Re: mass bug filing for undefined sn?printf use

2008-12-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 09:53:40AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > Mike Hommey >xulrunner ./xulrunner-1.8.1.16+nobinonly/toolkit/mozapps/installer/unix/wizard/nsXIEngine.cpp: sprintf(libpath, "%s/%s", libpath, XPISTUB); ./xulrunner-1.8.1.16+nobinonly/xpinstall/wizard/unix/src

Re: Bug#503907: diffstat

2008-12-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 03:43:35PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 12:23:03AM -0500, Asheesh Laroia wrote: > > I have a feeling that the libwebkit currently in sid and lenny is pretty > > broken, from the looks of this bug. > > > > Unfortunately, we don't seem to be able to

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