Re: debian and UDEV

The rest of the Linux distribution world is using udev with the current semantics and has not crumbled. If you don't like the current semantics, I understand, but that shouldn't stand in the way of its adoption. -- - mdz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubs

Re: RFC: Better portability for package maintainers

On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 10:34:35AM -0700, Alex Ross wrote: > The following is based on premises that portability is good and > that POSIX is a standard. A proposal. I didn't see a concrete proposal in your email, only information about where to find gnusolaris build logs. Can you elaborate? --

Re: RFC: Better portability for package maintainers

On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 01:15:44PM -0700, Alex Ross wrote: > Matt Zimmerman wrote: > >On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 10:34:35AM -0700, Alex Ross wrote: > >>The following is based on premises that portability is good and that > >>POSIX is a standard. A proposal. > > >

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 01:59:21PM +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: > I hope this special treatment has nothing to do with the sun-ubuntu deal > announced a few days ago. What relationship could you possibly suspect between this event and processing of this package in Debian's queue/new? -- - mdz

Re: Bits from the Package Tracking System

On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 10:19:02PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > So by default it is assumed that I should make Ubuntu's work and dig > into these patches to see if some pieces should be applied into Debian? > No thanks, I am getting tired of all those Debian developers who are > more interested in

Re: Challenge: Binary free uploading

On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 08:14:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > For starters, we'd need a *lot* of hardware to be able to do all these > builds. Many of them will fail, because there *will* be people who will > neglect to test their builds, and they will hog the machine so that > other people (w

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

Your message came off as somewhat accusatory toward Debian, and positioned Debian and Ubuntu as rivals engaged in a struggle. I'll try to address your points individually, but please try to take a less inflammatory stance. The relationship between Debian and Ubuntu is a sensitive topic with some,

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 10:46:57AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Debian is a project of volunteers. I am a Debian volunteer. I'm not > going to write something just because you gripe at me about it. I have > no obligation to you. I will work on things that are interesting to me. Absolutely agre

Re: RunDinstallHourly

On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 10:54:34PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > >FWIW, our experiences with Ubuntu shows that having fast dinstall > >cycles is very helpful. You can sit and codevelop with people > >uploading to the archive as you go and letting other people in on w

Re: If *-module depends on *-utils, should *-source recommend it?

On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 08:40:56AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Afaik neither debootstrap, cdebootstrap nor rootstrap use dpkg -i to > partially install packages. They explicitly use --unpack and > --configure and use --force-* options to exactly say what they need. rootstrap doesn't inst

Re: ITP John the ripper

On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 03:39:24PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > as jsut discussed on debian-devel, I would like to package John the > Ripper. If someone already has done or is working on it, please mail me, > then I will stop packing it. Otherwise I will try to upload this package > till friday

Re: What happened to rrdtool in potato?

On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 07:23:09PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Is it orphaned? (Then I would take it, when becoming a developer). Though > > it is not listed in prospective-packages.html. > > It's not officially orphaned but it's no maintained anymore since the > maintainer could have fixed

Re: What happened to rrdtool in potato?

On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 09:22:41PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Great, sorry for the confusion, however you could have fixed this RC bug > way before the first bug horizon, you haven't done such a good job by > taking so long ... I don't want to blame you but RC bugs (and particularly > when th

Re: WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 02:39:26AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > Not for me... > > > > Life is nice isn't it? > > > > > > (And then stop sending this "Not for me"-answers all the time or > > something bad

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 08:51:47PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > The definition is the following: > > It is not be necessary to explicitly specify build-time relationships > on a minimal set of packages that are always needed to compile, link > and put in a Debian package

ITP enhydra

Package: wnpp Severity: normal I intend to package Enhydra, an open source Java/XML application server . It is licensed as follows (according to ): Base Enhydra server and tools: FreeBSD license XMLC co

Re: ITP enhydra

On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 03:05:04PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: normal > > I intend to package Enhydra, an open source Java/XML application server > <http://www.enhydra.org/software/enhydra/index.html>. It is licensed as > fol

Re: potato + updates

On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 11:02:58AM -0700, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 06:44:48PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > The README on security.debian.org already gives you that line.. > > Hmm, strange. It seems I missed reading this. Maybe the complete list of sources should be at

Re: X and runlevels

On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:30:06AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: > > "EB" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > EB> perhaps because in the default configuration there is no > EB> display manager, and thus no automatic runage of X. > > Sure. But whenever you install something t

Re: ITP enhydra

[CCed to: debian-java, where this thread originated the wnpp bug for Enhydra debian-devel, to get broader input on source packaging issues Please trim CC list as appropriate] On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 02:55:48PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > If the package is in 'non-

Re: postgresql+apache+php4+pgsql.so+pg_exec()=apache segfaults

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:04:10PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > as already i said, on woody everything runs well. i could not recompile > php4 debian sources on my potato since they look for apsx for creating > apache modules and, as far as i searched, i couldn't find it. The apxs program is

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 06:24:28PM +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: > GUI tools. [some will respond here with "we don't want those users" and I > won't agree. This flamewar already happened. GUI tools doesn't mean you > have to use them. blah blah blah.] > > Something else we'd need is an option in

Re: RFC: fix for daemon start on package install/upgrade out-of-runlevel

On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 04:03:50PM -0400, Robert D. Hilliard wrote: > ps ax|grep |grep -v grep works for me. It works for you because you are interactive. A maintainer script is not. If you run ps ax|grep daemon|grep -v grep and you see: 12661 pts/0S 0:00 vi /etc/daemon.conf You

Re: Bug#71237: cdparanoia: cannot use cdparanoia 'out of the box' as a non-root user.

On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 07:48:14AM -0400, Dale E. Martin wrote: > I can see how you arrived at the solution that you did now though. So > far, you're the only person that's sent me email advocating SUID root. > Would documenting that as a solution, and describing how to do it in > Readme.Debian,

Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 06:46:46PM +, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 09:14:25 +0100, Andreas Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >start-stop-daemon won't work, > > start-stop-daemon IIRC needs $program to background itself, and it > can't IIRC restart dying processes. run stays around

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 09:18:09AM +0100, Peter Makholm wrote: > "Dwayne C . Litzenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > So my question is: What do you wish for in a package manager? > > I agree with Ethan. Start explaining why you want to reinvent the > wheel then we maybe has some ideas fo

Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 11:04:10AM +0100, Andreas Fuchs wrote: > > However, I would say that if the program dies so frequently that it needs a > > wrapper like this, it should probably be fixed. > > tail -f of a logfile into a secured less. To search and scroll > backwards, one must kill the tail

Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 01:29:44PM +, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:41:54 -0500, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >However, I would say that if the program dies so frequently that it needs a > >wrapper like this, it should probably be fixe

Re: Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user

On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:38:28PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > > No, but it's a good idea. It makes it much easier to work in > > directories shared with other users (but not all users), because > > you don't have to keep changing your umask all the time, or > > even worse, fixing file perm

Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:27:32AM +, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, 25 Dec 2000 08:36:34 -0500, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >Though maybe this program is forcing itself on the wrong interface to syslog. > >Maybe it should really be reading from a

Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:26:10PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > On 00-12-25 Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > It would be nice if less included a feature to close and reopen the current > > file. Then this would not be necessary. > > Well, this is a feature that tail on FreeBSD

Re: Close list

On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:36:00AM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: > Just tested that. ssh to master, telnet to localhost smtp, it was quite > willing to relay mail with a non-local envelope. (And left enough clues in > the header to track who did that just in case it ever becomes necessary.) >

Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 01:38:03PM +0100, Andreas Fuchs wrote: > Today, Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, this is a feature that tail on FreeBSD has. If you start it with > > -F, it will tail you the current file like our tail -f. But if know the > > logfile will be rotated, it w

Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 11:26:25AM +, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 07:28:59 -0500, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >It sounds pretty easy to implement; just stat() and compare the inode number. > > That won't catch a file being copied

Re: How to get changelog file for a given _binary_ package?

On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:17:54PM +, Marc Haber wrote: > I would like to do this by periodically pulling the change logs for > all packages that we have backported from the Debian web page > (http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-changelog?package=$package) and > then comparing the version number

Re: booting Linux NFS-Root

> On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:58:47PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > > I seem to have problems booting Linux 2.2.18 via NFS root > > image. **2.2.17 works fine**, but 2.2.18 says "No NFS servers > > available, giving up". > [...] > > Any ideas what is going on? What kernel rev and NFS version are the NF

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 02:03:14PM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > How about an "apt-getd" debian daemon. > > Use a apt-get client to remotely mess with another workstations packages. > Messing with only one workstation at a time is boring. How about multicast > to configure a hundred workstatio

Openwall kernel patches

Has anyone looked into packaging the Openwall patches for the kernel? Their licensing is kosher. If nobody else steps up, I'll probably do it. -- - mdz

Re: Openwall kernel patches

On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 01:18:35PM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote: > Quoting Matt Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Has anyone looked into packaging the Openwall patches for the kernel? Their > > licensing is kosher. If nobody else steps up, I'll probably do it. > I

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:22:52AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > Yes, that was kind of my point. > > An analogy would be that we don't need dpkg because most of its > functionality could be done by a mixture of tar, gzip, and perl (and maybe > make to handle dependancies). Not quite. dpkg-deb

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:39:04PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > > Not quite. dpkg-deb actually does call out to tar and gzip, and lets those > > programs do what they do best. It doesn't try to be tar and gzip and dpkg > > all > > at once. The UNIX approach is to build tools that do one or a few

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 06:12:35PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > Same idea, different implementation. It is using (de)compression code that > > is > > shared with other programs. > > Being linked to it statically m

Re: test -d /usr/man && mail submit@bugs

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 08:03:49PM +0900, Taketoshi Sano wrote: > The CTTE recommendation, or DPL order, was that the woody has > the symlinks from /usr/man/ to /usr/share/man/, IIRC. > > Is this changed now ? Can we drop the postinst/prerm requirements > to create/remove those symlinks ? /usr/m

Re: RFC: pools and catagories of packages

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 04:21:39AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > InfoProcApp: Information Processing Application > > The box indicates a "generic ontology package" here named > InfoProcApp. Here is a candidate ontology derived from InfoProcApp > [...] > Now imagine this higher level hierarch

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:11:01PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Why not look at this from a different perspective? I don't know if it may be > useful or not for upgrading machines, but the multicast server would be a > very nice thing for mass installations. I still disagree. Multicast is t

Re: need headers for target architecture: asm/unistd.h

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:24:26PM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > I try to build a crosscompiler i386->arm (but also other archs). At one > point headerfiles for the target architecture are needed. Where could I find > headerfiles for other archs? Are there development packages for this purpose

Re: need headers for target architecture: asm/unistd.h

On Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 12:39:58PM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > * Andreas Schuldei ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001229 23:24]: > > I try to build a crosscompiler i386->arm (but also other archs). At one > > point headerfiles for the target architecture are needed. Where could I find > > headerfiles f

Re: Problem with start-stop-daemon and pidfile

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:10:19AM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > touch /var/run/debian-mirror.pid > chown mirror.nogroup /var/run/debian-mirror.pid > > touch /var/log/debian-mirror.log > chown mirror.nogroup /var/log/debian-mirror.log Please don't do this. nogroup should not be the group of

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:06:18PM -0800, Erik Hollensbe wrote: > apt-get and it's kin need more simple getopt-style flags that allow > overriding of certain things, mainly conflicts. Also, an option to > actually view what's being upgraded before you download 250 packages that > are only going to

Re: [Fwd: Bug#63511 acknowledged by developer(Bug#63511: fixed in glibc 2.2-7)]

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 10:20:11AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > I've just reported what I had thought, some many many months ago, > > to be a problem. Of course, the maintainer has not done anything > > about this report for 7 months, and then he closes it like that. > > Not good. > > Oh, and ju

Re: Something has broken APT on my system...

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:08:39AM +0200, Heikki Kantola wrote: > For few days (first experienced this on 1.1.) I've been trying to figure > out what's wrong with APT as whatever command I try, I get: > > Reading Package Lists... Error! > E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room > E: Error occured whil

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 08:37:26AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > Back on topic, I would have thought that package distribution was a one > time shot. Caches are for people who would otherwise download the > slashdot.org header graphic fifty times a day. Whereas each individual > debian machine

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:45:50AM -0500, David Greene wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > The problem is L4M3RZ using that broken piece of non-free shit PINE, which > > doesn't appear to respect *any* conventions of netiquette. > > Is there a free mailer to replace "that

Re: Problem with start-stop-daemon and pidfile

On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:29:30AM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > >>>>> " " == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:10:19AM +0100, Goswin Brederlow > > wrote: > >> touch /var/ru

Possible ITP: freebirth

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:04:55AM -0200, Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: > Yes, I've been in a packaging mood lately :) > > I'd like to have Tk707 packaged. Tk707 is a software clone of the > Roland TR-707 rhythm composer, a drum machine. Reading this reminded me of Freebirth, which doesn't seem to

Free replacement for shorten (lossless digital audio compressor)?

http://www.softsound.com/Shorten.html Does anyone know of a free replacement for the "shorten" tool, from SoftSound? It is used to compress/decompress digital audio to/from the "shn" format, a compressed audio format which gets about 2:1 lossless compression. It is gaining popularity for lossless

Re: Obsolete software in /usr/local

On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 05:30:58PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote: > I just finished building a woody system, so I can get my packages up to > date, and all these programs stopped working because the needed library > was not found. If I copy the /usr/local/lib contents to /lib everything > works fine,

Re: mail-followup-to and Mutt

On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:13:22AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jan 06, Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >the same error. Perhaps the Mutt manual should be updated to > >make this more clear. > README.Debian. ITYM README.UPGRADE. -- - mdz

Re: lilo.conf

On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:58:48PM +0100, Cosimo Alfarano wrote: > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:33:57PM +0100, Peter Makholm wrote: > > Don't assume devfs! A lot of us uses it, but before our standard > > kernel uses it our lilo package shouldn't assume it unless it is very > > sure that it will wor

Re: What to do about /etc/debian_version

On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 02:19:36PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > > This information could instead be stored in /etc/lsb-release. One of > > the reasons for the creation of this file was to standardise across > > the distributions the name and format of

Re: lilo.conf

On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 05:40:53PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > On 01-01-06 Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:58:48PM +0100, Cosimo Alfarano wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:33:57PM +0100, Peter Makholm wrote: > > > > Don't assume dev

Re: Bug#81397: [authorization] fails silently for normal users, cannot start server

On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 07:29:35PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: > What is this supposed to mean? There are many users here suffering from this > problem since this is a multi-user system and none of them have the time > to learn the peculiarities of x. They, and I, just want to use this stuff > and

Relocatable source packages (Re: What do you wish for in an package manager? Here you are!)

On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 07:37:21PM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Apart from that, anyone who cares what version to use must use the > full path to the binary or a versioned name, like /bin/bash-2.04-1. > > I would like binaries to be compiled to reside in versioned > directories but I also see

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 12:04:14AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > This is how it looks like > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet borg > Trying 139.179.21.143... > Connected to borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr. > Escape character is '^]'. > Debian GNU/Linux woody borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr > login: root > Passwo

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:38:10AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > > Then, read /etc/login.defs. Note the values of the ENV_PATH and ENV_SUPATH > > options. These are used by login(1) and su(1). Test login(1) and su(1) and > > make sure they are doing what you expect. If they aren't, find o

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 12:53:14PM +1100, Drake Diedrich wrote: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:43:39AM +1100, Sam Couter wrote: > > > > A deb plugin would be better. :) > >One problem with a deb plugin is that .debs are signed in compressed > form. gzip isn't guaranteed to produce the same co

Re: lilo.conf

On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:17:20AM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: > On 01-01-06 Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > mizar:[~/src/linux/2.4.0/linux] egrep 'VERSION|LEVEL' Makefile | head -3 > > VERSION = 2 > > PATCHLEVEL = 4 > > SUBLEVEL = 0 > > mizar:[~/src/li

Bug#81396: root shell fscked after upgrade to woody

On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 09:01:40AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:29:03AM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestion. That's it. Please close the bug. That file has > > somehow gone and replacing it will solve the problem. > > And of course moving .bash_prof

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 03:49:43PM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Actually the load should drop, providing the following feature add > ons: > [...] The load should drop from that induced by the current rsync setup (for the mirrors), but if many, many more client start using rsync (instead of FT

Re: Possible ITP: freebirth

On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 08:41:50AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:04:55AM -0200, Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: > > > Yes, I've been in a packaging mood lately :) > > > > I'd like to have Tk707 packaged. Tk707 is a software clone of the

Re: Solving the compression dilema when rsync-ing Debian versions

On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:16:08PM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wichert Akkerman) writes: > > > gzip --rsyncable, aloready implemented, ask Rusty Russell. > > I have a copy of Rusty's patch, but have not applied it since I don't like > diverging Debian packages from upstream t

Re: Solving the compression dilema when rsync-ing Debian versions

On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 05:28:56PM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote: > >> So why not solve the compression problem at the root? Why not try to > >> change the compression in a way so it does produce a compressed > result > >> with the same (or similar) difference rate as the source? > > > >Are you going to

Re: Kernel Sends 7E ?

(what does this have to do with Debian package development?) On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:14:23AM -0500, Derrick (Thrawn01) wrote: > I'm not sure if this would be the correct List to post a question such was > this. but. > > we use Linux as the server on a Embedded DOS client-server environment.

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 10:16:09AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Ron Rademaker wrote: > > > > > I checked BTS and the bug wasn't in BTS. > > Because the indices only run every 12 hours. Check 81679. I thought the reason for switching from the generated HTML to CGIs was so tha

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:42:06AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > I thought the reason for switching from the generated HTML to CGIs was so > > that the pages could be dynamically generated, and we wouldn't have this > >

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 11:54:23AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > It's long past time that the BTS had a real database backend. Since the > > code is being actively worked on, I assume there are reasons why this isn't &g

Re: tar -I incompatibility

On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 09:09:06PM +0100, Ingo Saitz wrote: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:26:32PM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote: > > tar in potato uses -I for bzip2. So far, tar -I won't be bzip2 in > > woody, the next stable. > > I wonder how other linux distributions will handle this. Would it

Re: 'export RESOLV_HOST_CONF= any file you want' local vulnerability

On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 08:34:13AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 09:29:46AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > Potato is not vulnerable. This is a woody/sid only bug (i.e. glibc > > 2.1.9x and greater, such as the 2.2 in woody/sid). The bug is not that > > it prints this info,

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 09:01:40AM -0500, Daniel Martin wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Well, if someone would like to configure the MTA that runs bugs.debian.org > > to > > send CC's of all bug mail to another address, ... > >

Re: 'export RESOLV_HOST_CONF= any file you want' local vulnerability

On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 09:55:29PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 07:19:53PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > I assume its purpose is to allow different resolver settings to be used with > > individual programs. For instance, perhaps one program should use

Re: resolution of the tar -I issue

On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 10:18:21PM -0800, Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo wrote: > -[0-7][lmh] specify drive and density > > I'm not sure exactly what that's for, but it does rule out -2. It kinda sucks > when you completely run out of single character options. %-) That's for specifying a tape drive an

Re: Why does typing "navigator" run mozilla?

On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 02:52:00PM -0400, Timothy H. Keitt wrote: > Short answer: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/X11/navigator > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 27 Apr 12 19:54 > /usr/bin/X11/navigator -> /etc/alternatives/navigator > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives

Re: Getting hostname

On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:11:57PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Matt Zimmerman] > >> a) Can I get the hostname in my shell script another way (this could be a > >> question for this list)? > > > > getent hosts foo.bar.baz > > getent is available

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:26:28PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > So, why do you think having a more even distribution is a good thing? > > Or rather, why is the current situation so bad? > > indeed. Some packages are "worth" 10 "normal" packages in the amount of work > they require. An

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 09:24:16PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Guido Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It's very hard to get these bug fixes anyway since when I do a > > _complete_ diff between kernel-source-2.X.Y in the archive and the > > kernel source for architecture foo I'll _always_

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 11:37:09AM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > Guido, you're not going about it the right way. It's a three-way merge. > You take a kernel.org tree, diff it against the architecture tree that > you're interested in, and then wiggle it into applying to the kernel > source pac

Re: Bug#194515: ITP: debdivert -- Debian packaging aid to create patch packages

On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 05:37:31PM +0900, Masato Taruishi wrote: > > Masato Taruishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ah, the main point of this package is to create a local ad-hoc package > > > which can coexist with its official package. Escpecially, I can manage > > > my temporary on-going impr

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 09:20:28PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > So unless someone can come up with a solution to this problem, > we will have to live with multiple Debian source packages for now. > > This does make security fixes more difficult than it would be otherwise, > however, I do not think

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 08:42:39PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 02:34:17PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > What benefit is there in not announcing these problems? Security > > through obscurity? How can we inform our users of their exposure when

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 08:44:26PM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 01:42:22PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > So this means that maintainers of the architecture patches must be sure > > to merge in these fixes, otherwise they may inherit security > >

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 07:37:10AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Given an explicit kernel-patch-debian, containing architecture-agnostic > > differences between kernel.org source and Debian's kernel source, > >

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 07:58:09AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By 'independent packages', do you mean that we should have separate > > kernel-source source packages for each architecture? This would seem to > >

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 06:21:00AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 06:32:26PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > It's not noise at all when it's something that we and others (desperately!) > > want to know about. > > Then read through the pr

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 09:23:44AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 01:11:44AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > Then read through the prepatch diffs, everything adding checks to > > > ioctl methods or similar is likely one them. > > >

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 04:09:51PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2003 15:11, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > This approach does not scale. I cannot personally review the diffs for > > every upstream release of all the software in Debian, nor can any other > > indiv

Re: Help wanted for packaging postgresql application

On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 09:56:04PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > I want to package GnuMed which is a Python application accessing > PostgreSQL server. > > http://bugs.debian.org/166282 > > It comes with a Python bootstrap routine. That means the postinst script > would need a working Pytho

Re: Help wanted for packaging postgresql application

On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 04:30:08PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: > On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 04:50:03PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > For python, you only need to declare Depends: python to ensure that python > > is installed and configured when your postinst runs. > > Wouldn&

Re: Help wanted for packaging postgresql application

On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 08:39:01AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2003, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > For python, you only need to declare Depends: python to ensure that > > python is installed and configured when your postinst runs. > Are you sure that the

Re: Bug#190302: Misusage of changelog!

On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:26:10PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 04:58:01AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis > wrote: > > On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 11:16:51AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > [...] > > > Btw., your line for "Upstream fix: closes:" is not very helpful fo

Re: Bug#190302: Misusage of changelog!

On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 08:08:28AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: > On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:26:10PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > Which does not help everybody else at all, who have just > > the meaningless changelog and are using apt-listchanges to read it > > before installa

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