Re: RFC: preventing accidental deletion of system directories

2008-03-22 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
system directories, right? Yes, that's what I mean: what's wrong with making rm -i the default behaviour? We could do that by simply patching coreutils. William And, after this change, each system script that uses rm will ask user for the confirmation? -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackY

Bug#475834: ITP: nlkt -- non-linear visual keyboard trainer

2008-04-13 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: nlkt Version : 0.2.3 Upstream Author : Eugene V. Lyubimkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/nlkt/ * License : GPL

Re: RFH: Chrony goes into endless loop on x86_64

2008-04-22 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
. Package works. Have installed chrony 1.23 - bug doesn't appear too. Package works. Saw no any endless loops. - -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, Ukrainian C++ developer. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment:

Re: Bug#479553: ITP: thinkcspy2 -- free Python book for beginning programmers

2008-05-05 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Evgeni Golov wrote: >> * License : GFDL >> Description : free [...] > > As far as I understand, GFDL is non-free for Debian :( Does it (thinkcspy2) contain unmodificable sections? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/

Bug#482913: ITP: daptup -- see changes in new & upgradeable lists after aptitude update

2008-05-25 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: daptup Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Eugene V. Lyubimkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sf.net/projects/daptup * License : GPLv3

Re: Inconsistent archive

2008-06-03 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Hi, > > today I just searched for the ITP: oss4 mail [1]. Unfortunately I was not > able to find in in my own debian-devel inbox. So I went to the archive > http://lists.debian.org/devel.html to search for it and it seems not to

Non-related 'Recommends' dependencies - bug or not?

2008-06-12 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
y maintainer with note "it is not a bug". Is he right? [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=485759 - -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, Ukrainian C++ developer. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using Gn

Re: Non-related 'Recommends' dependencies - bug or not?

2008-06-12 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 09:57:13PM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: >> Recently I've noticed that 'Recommends' chain for package 'banshee' leads to >> packages, >> non-

Re: Non-related 'Recommends' dependencies - bug or not?

2008-06-12 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Greenland wrote: > On 12-Jun-08, 13:57 (CDT), "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Bug was closed by maintainer with note "it is not a bug". Is he right? > > Banshee's maintai

multiarch: dependency-oriented vs package-oriented

2009-07-29 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
dependencies as multiarch 'same' to allow foreign dependencies to be satisfied with less number of packages in the system in the long run. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Maintainer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: multiarch: dependency-oriented vs package-oriented

2009-07-29 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Hi Steve, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Eugene, > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 09:34:42PM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > >> Moreover, this is not the only exception. Thousands of desktop and server >> packages that contains executable binaries (applications) compiled

Re: multiarch: dependency-oriented vs package-oriented

2009-07-29 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes: >> What the multiarch spec proposes now is package-oriented approach: the >> package >> should define whether it is 'same' or 'foreign' kind. This is not >> straightforwar

Re: multiarch: dependency-oriented vs package-oriented

2009-07-30 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes: >>> 2) Tagging package relationships instead of packages means extending >>> the syntax of package relationsships, trusting the binary packages to >>> get the depends right >> You'll

Re: multiarch: dependency-oriented vs package-oriented

2009-07-30 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes: > >> Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >>> "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes: >>>>> 2) Tagging package relationships instead of packages means extending >>>>> the syntax o

Re: Please test eglibc 2.9-23+multiarch.1

2009-07-30 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Except saying "apt sucks", I currently do not have more idea. Someone > else maybe? > /me suggests to try cupt and hides -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Maintainer signature.asc D

Re: multiarch: dependency-oriented vs package-oriented

2009-07-31 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
r maintainers of reverse depends, opposing to your. It has discussed drawback too, of course. That's all my arguments. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Maintainer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-13 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
n't be first-class Debian packages Fully agree. While I support automatic generation of debug packages, creating a new format for them sounds for me as creating new RFC for e-mails which bodies contain no spaces and no Bcc header allowed. Why? To filter 'automatic debug mails'. --

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-13 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: >> Hello thread! /me puts on a package manager developer hat. >> >> Sorry, I haven't read the whole thread, it's huge. >> >> I think that diversion of debug packages out of current deb format is a

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-13 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2009-08-13, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: >>> Maybe you should spend some time and read the thread before stating such >>> things. >> Really? So, they are already first-class deb packages? > > Maybe you should spend some time and re

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-19 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Andreas Tille wrote: > I even failed to grep "man apt-get" for the string "suggests" so > I think I can not do something like > >apt-get --include-suggest install > -o 'Apt::Install-Suggests=1' -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jack

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-19 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Andreas Tille wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:35:10AM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: >>>apt-get --include-suggest install >>> >> -o 'Apt::Install-Suggests=1' > > Ahh, I remember I was formerly wondering about this option which might > be

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-18 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
ew one, i.e. explicitly declared upgrade path. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-19 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Magnus Holmgren wrote: > On fredagen den 18 september 2009, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: >> Magnus Holmgren wrote: >>> I propose a new control field called e.g. Supersedes that will provide >>> the same semantics. In its simplest form, a renamed package will declare >

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-19 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
flicts >>> foo} > foo should now be marked as removeable, bar should be marked as > manually installed (i.e. take the state associated with foo) > > Can any of that be achieved with postinst scripts? That's a very bad idea IMO. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-20 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Anton Piatek wrote: > 2009/9/19 Eugene V. Lyubimkin : >> Anton Piatek wrote: >>>> This should really be done by the package management, not by the user. >>> It sounds like you are describing the following: >>>>> $stable: package foo >>> manu

Re: ITP: sandbox -- Collaborative 3D game editor for education

2009-10-14 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
is too generic. Can you change it to 'sandboxgamemaker'? -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: perl and perl-modules; reflexive dependencies vs. archive bloat

2009-10-24 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
kage. Many > of those either Recommend the relevant package or declare no > relationship at all. > 'perl-modules', unlike usual binary/data split, contain executable code that depends on executable code from 'perl', so it is not another foo-data package. -- Eugen

Re: usplash-theme-debian uploaded to sid

2009-10-24 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
:-) Would be nice to see also 1280x800. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: git-buildpackage could use get-orig-source, uscan ?

2009-10-25 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
original tarball works better IMO. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

unused parameters passed to maintainer scripts

2009-10-25 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
prerm, postinst) - for sure; - (postrm) - most probably, checked only a part so far. So, the question: how do people think, is a goal to deprecate&remove these params in dpkg and policy worthy? -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian

Re: unused parameters passed to maintainer scripts

2009-10-26 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
ure or in other places. I always wondered how this params can be used by maintainer scripts, even in theory. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: unused parameters passed to maintainer scripts

2009-10-26 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
gt; future or in other places. >[...] > > A failure of imagination on our art should not be used to block > this functionality for cases where it might be needed. With that kind of arguments, the standards cannot ever rid of unused bits. I am giving up on this proposal

Re: unused parameters passed to maintainer scripts

2009-10-26 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
It gives examples of where things can be put in, were you > inclined to do different things based on how the script is called. It gives only a code template to do different things, but actually does nothing. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-20 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
and it won't be pulled for Recommends/Suggests). To summarize: if I am not mistaken, this DEP cannot be implemented due to technical reasons in its current form. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-20 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
David Paleino wrote: > Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: >> No, it doesn't. Dpkg and any sane high-level package manager won't >> consider installing/upgrading/keeping some package (meta or not) without >> all Depends installed. > > We can always change our tools

Policy restriction to depend on font packages

2008-07-15 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
the bugs or this situation can be resolved through different approach? Regards, - -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkh82RgACgkQchorMMFUmYymIQCgsQnmJ7pIIBJifTBebGYf

Re: Policy restriction to depend on font packages

2008-07-16 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Eugene V. Lyubimkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >> Should I mass-file the bugs or this situation can be resolved through >> different approach? > > > While you're technically right, app

Bug#492106: ITP: qmmp -- xmms-like audio player with support of many formats

2008-07-23 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: qmmp Version : 0.2.0 Upstream Author : Ilya Kotov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://code.google.com/p/qmmp/ * License : GPLv2+

Re: Lenny frozen

2008-07-29 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
For example, new version of 'libpqxx' package is now in NEW, and it fixes RC bug (serious, recently appeared), but contains another changes. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: libpqxx in NEW fixes RC bug (was: Re: Lenny frozen)

2008-07-29 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Eugene V. Lyubimkin [Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:56:37 +0300]: >> For example, new version of 'libpqxx' package is now in NEW, and it >> fixes RC bug (serious, recently appeared), but contains another changes. > > I don't see any mention in t

html2text with utf8 support: please test

2008-08-05 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
-8 support is a good feature, especially for processing non-English documents. Regards, -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, Ukrainian C++ developer. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Possible mass bug filing: The possibility of attack with the help of symlinks in some Debian packages

2008-08-12 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
subdirectory of /tmp >> that is only accessible by that user, and then sets TMPDIR and other >> variables to that. Hence, it doesn't matter nearly as much if you >> create a non-random filename, because nobody but you can access it. > > Yes, but > scripts must use $TMPDIR ins

Re: html2text with utf8 support: please test

2008-08-18 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Kenshi Muto wrote: > Hi Eugene, > > At Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:34:18 +0300, > Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: >> Utility html2text, version 1.3.2a-6, with "utf8" patch was just uploaded to >> experimental. >> The patch allows to process UTF-8 files when '-

Re: html2text with utf8 support: please test

2008-08-22 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Samuel Thibault wrote: > Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: >> Utility html2text, version 1.3.2a-6, with "utf8" patch was just >> uploaded to experimental. The patch allows to process UTF-8 files >> when '-utf8' option supplied. Input should be in UTF-8 and out

Bug#497304: general: packages cannot be partially installed

2008-08-31 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
almost no doubt this report should be marked 'wontfix'. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, Ukrainian C++ developer. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Anyone looked at Chromium for Debian yet?

2008-09-03 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
as of yesterday evening, no one had filed an ITP. > > Best, > Google stands it doesn't available under Linux, what do you suggest to package? :) -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Anyone looked at Chromium for Debian yet?

2008-09-03 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
g RC bugs in >>> iceweasel/xulrunner instead. >> >> >>That's right, but at the same time some of us also want to have >>some fun in Debian. > > I want fun, too. Maybe I should orphan these packages. I don't think so. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Bug#498046: ITP: qorganizer -- featured lightweight graphical organizer

2008-09-06 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: qorganizer Version : 3.1.3 Upstream Author : Balázs Béla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sf.net/projects/qorganizer * License : GPLv2

html2text: remove limited built-in http support?

2008-09-07 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
do (requested in [4]). Can we remove html2text's http support for squeeze? [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=285378 [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=307425 [3] http://www.mbayer.de/html2text/faq.shtml#sect4 [4] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugre

Proposal: user-visible list of divergences from upstream

2008-09-08 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
n be done for squeeze (may be, as squeeze release goals?..). It's my humble view. Does it sound reasonably? -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, Ukrainian C++ developer. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Proposal: user-visible list of divergences from upstream

2008-09-08 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2008-09-08, Eugene V. Lyubimkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My proposal is make the new file named, for example, debian/divergences, = [snip] > I think you are trying to overengineer something. > I really prefer the documentation of debian patche

Re: Proposal: user-visible list of divergences from upstream

2008-09-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Ben Finney wrote: > "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Many of Debian packages have a patches that fixes some important >> bugs which have not accepted by upstream for some reasons, some of >> them also contains improvements, Debian-

Re: Proposal: user-visible list of divergences from upstream

2008-09-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Reinhard Tartler wrote: > "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I failed to fetch a human-readable patch info for psi in testing from >> patch-tracking.debian.net, for example. > > Okay, take another example then: > http://patch-tra

Re: Proposal: user-visible list of divergences from upstream

2008-09-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Neil Williams wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 14:33 +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: >> Reinhard Tartler wrote: [snip] >>> http://patch-tracking.debian.net/package/ffmpeg-debian >> Well, how can users go this site? Is it described in debian policy, >> devreference, so

Re: Proposal: user-visible list of divergences from upstream

2008-09-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Ben Finney wrote: > "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] >>>> But how can users know about this changes in Debian packages? >>> By the existing README.Debian and NEWS.Debian conventions (for >>> persistent and version-sensiti

Re: Proposal: user-visible list of divergences from upstream

2008-09-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Neil Williams wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 14:57 +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: >>> BTS and online changelogs linked from the PTS ? >> For upstream, for Debian people - enough. My proposal is to make >> user-oriented list. Long changelog entries with some inner pac

Re: Proposal: user-visible list of divergences from upstream

2008-09-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Tue,09.Sep.08, 15:53:16, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > > [...] > >> README.Debian contains notes about important changes that made in >> Debian's variant of package for a long time of package' lifecycle. >> NEWS.Debian is especia

Re: Packaging shell functions

2008-10-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
a look on packaging of 'apparix' tool, it relies on shell aliases too for its work. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Bug#506461: ITP: qprint -- encoder and decoder for quoted-printable encoding

2008-11-21 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: qprint Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : John Walker <http://www.fourmilab.ch/> * URL : http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/qprint/ * License

Why acroread is popular (Was: Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main)

2008-12-02 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Michelle Konzack wrote: > ..because I do not use GNOME and KDE and it does not suck several > 100 MByte of useless GNOME and KDE libs! 'evince-gtk' package pulls much less dependencies, I am using it with XFCE. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(m

Re: Packages still depending on GTK+ 1.2

2008-12-08 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
William Pitcock wrote: > Unless you're talking about the ugly XMMS GUI. In which case, I believe > QMMS is available for packaging. You meant 'QMMP'? It reproduces XMMS GUI and it is in unstable already. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)

Bug#508644: general: installing mdadm pulls in citadel-server as depedency

2008-12-13 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
t that is another discussion :-) Actually, apt-get is more often used as non-interactive package manager, so I would not add interactive "asker" to it. Aptitude, however, has all chances and opportunities to implement it. All above is IMO. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jac

Re: Adoption of Nix?

2008-12-24 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
we have not-so-excellent, but rather good apt, and significant amount of Debian users choose Debian just only because of apt. IMO. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com Ukrainian C++ Developer, Debian Maintainer, APT contributor signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Adoption of Nix?

2008-12-24 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
isn't backed by facts, One big fact is: Debian have tens (or even hundreds) of tools that use apt infrastructure, including both user side and archive maintenance side. Nix, in any way it operates, suggests other API to maintain packages. Who is supposed to rewrite all this stuff for Nix? >

Re: Adoption of Nix?

2008-12-24 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Artyom Shalkhakov wrote: > 2008/12/24 Eugene V. Lyubimkin : >> Which means that "find all dependencies with no exceptions" is not true. > > This is how Nix developers put it: > >> Runtime dependencies are found by scanning binaries for the hash parts >&

Bug#509732: Debian policy doesn't feature RC bugs

2008-12-26 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Tracking System that permits RC bugs to remain in the next releases of > Debian when the report is closed incorrectly and nobody notices before > they are out. bug-maint-info.txt file is in package 'doc-debian', reassigned -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)

Re: Possible MBF due to DBus security issue

2009-01-04 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
nacceptable to drop fbreader from Lenny. Please coordinate with me. (BTW, I was not anyhow pinged and noticed this only right now and only by good chance. Badly.) -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com Ukrainian C++ developer, Debian Maintainer, APT

Re: Bits from the Debian CD team

2009-01-06 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Frans Pop wrote: > The Debian CD team has made practical use of the extra time allowed for > the release of Lenny by implementing some late improvements of the CD and > DVD images available for Lenny [snip] Thanks for massive work! -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.deve

Bug#511522: general: Man pages should say what package a program belongs to

2009-01-11 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
say which package man page belongs to. Example for coreutils: $ dpkg -S mv.1 coreutils: /usr/share/man/man1/mv.1.gz git-core: /usr/share/man/man1/git-mv.1.gz Look, first package is what you want. Is this approach acceptable for your needs? -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(mail

Bug#511522: general: Man pages should say what package a program belongs to

2009-01-11 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Neil Williams wrote: > A final alternative is the packages.debian.org website (has the > advantage that it also allows looking up files within packages that are > not currently installed). We also have apt-file utility, which does the same without looking to the site. -- Eugene V. Lyub

Re: Spec for package file diffs

2009-01-20 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Diffs are like to be produced by dak, so please try first asking the ftp masters. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com Ukrainian C++ developer, Debian Maintainer, APT contributor signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Binary package names for mozilla plugins [Was: Bits from the Mozilla Extension Packaging Team]

2010-04-26 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
>=20 > Opinions?=20 I would prefer 1. or, slightly less, 4. --=20 Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
cumented in README.Debian in the insserv package. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.deb

Re: status of circulars dependencies in unstable

2010-06-06 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
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Re: status of circulars dependencies in unstable

2010-06-07 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
#x27; and vice-versa. Still can be resolvered by merging together (quite complex from packaging side but possible). -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Bug#591704: ITP: pd-windowing -- a library of windowing functions in Pd

2010-08-06 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
edata' for first and 'puredata-extended' for second sound better for me (I also think that 'pd' is just too common) -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Raw Idea: one more control field for sponsors

2010-08-11 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
at a > sponsor be automatically subscribed to the bugs for all packages he > sponsors. I think it's a good idea, but this probably belongs to another thread. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Bug#592839: dpkg-source option to remove files on unpack: debian/source/remove-files

2010-08-13 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
is > hidden on unpack (I certainly wouldn't if I were them), so implementing > this is kind of pointless for Debian. > Seconded. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: What to do about Bug #557495?

2010-11-28 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
tagged, removed, have version information set > differently, or something in order to remove it from the UDD query for > "squeeze bugs"? IMHO this bug should be tagged 'sid' then. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer,

Re: Bug#608098: gnome-core: revert mass migration from -desktop-environment to -core

2010-12-27 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
tlessly > abrasive, inappropriate and offensive? I also don't like the style of the answer. Nevertheless, while I see your rationale, I doubt it's enough to overrule the maintainer. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Develo

Re: Upcoming FTPMaster meeting

2011-02-04 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
prefer dropping only one hashsum (of 3) though. > Would that already help quite a bit? The description and the hashsums > probably contain a tad more entropy than the other bits and could > already help quite a bit. ++ -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.co

Re: Release update: deep freeze, planned dates, and remaining bugs

2009-02-01 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
3:31:30 UTC on February 13, 2009, a celebration is expected as the > Unix time number reaches 1234567890 seconds. [1] Well, but Feb 14 is the Valentine's Day, fun seems to be already planned ;) -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Maint

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
rom > Opensuse? APT team has a number of tasks to work. As usually, patches are usually welcome. I obviously think that "incapable and obsolete" (from subject of the letter) aren't the words which can characterize APT. With 'APT contributor' hat on, -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Maintainer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
grading packages may break your system (by design, in any software). So, all downgrades should be done with caution and in not-automatic way. > OK. Maybe i just supposed APT to do various things I'm used to expect from > other package managements. Now i undrstand, reading the point of

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
to configure your mail client? Or wait for a person who is conformable with this kind of mails. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Maintainer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Darren Salt wrote: > I demand that Eugene V. Lyubimkin may or may not have written... > >> kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz wrote: >> <...> > [note: reformatted] >> I don't feel comfortable to answer on your mails. Use '>' for quoting, >> don'

Bug#524605: ITP: cupt -- alternative front-end for dpkg

2009-04-18 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" * Package name: cupt Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Eugene V. Lyubimkin * URL : http://wiki.github.com/jackyf/cupt * License : GPL3+ | Artistic Programming Lang: Perl D

file permissions on /etc/apt/trusted.gpg

2009-04-24 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
While this is true, the approach has two drawbacks: 1) depending on newer apt version would lead to uninstallability on Lenny, while now cupt can be installed on pure-Lenny system 2) waiting for fix in apt can take significant time Given all this, are there arguments against that chmod command? -- Euge

Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?

2009-05-23 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Bill Allombert wrote: > I use packages.debian.org each time I reassign a bug to a package to make > sure the new maintainer is notified. I think this should be a best > practice. BTS automatically adds maintainers of package where bug went to To/CC of reassign mail, doesn't it?

Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-17 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
pt, one of the > core Debian tools. Apt in turn relies on open standards like HTTP and > FTP to interoperate with the rest of the world. As someone who had to reverse-engineer APT repository format I fully agree with the above. With one minor addition that some software which is (non-core

Re: Announce: script to automatically restart services after update of dependencies

2012-06-19 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
yer for proposed functionality -- apt-get (libapt) is not the only high-level package manager for Debian. If I were you, I'd look into dpkg file triggers instead. Triggers will by the way automatically solve the problem that you don't restart a service 5 times if 5 libraries were u

Re: Announce: script to automatically restart services after update of dependencies

2012-06-19 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
On 2012-06-19 14:01, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 15:29 +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On 2012-06-19 13:59, Tomas Pospisek wrote: > > > This implies that an "apt-get install library" needs to trigger that > > >

Recommends for metapackages (was: Re: duplicates in the archive)

2012-07-10 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
es wrong should be fixed instead. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++ GNU/Linux developer, Debian Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.deb

Re: Recommends for metapackages

2012-07-10 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
ported by most if not all high-level packages managers in Debian. Therefore it's totally appropriate for the task. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++ GNU/Linux developer, Debian Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian

Re: Recommends for metapackages

2012-07-10 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
singlepackage', why $packagemanager now wants to remove all $metapackage?" , so I know I'm not alone. Using Recommends for non-core parts of metapackages' dependencies would nicely solve that. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++ GNU/Linux

Re: Recommends for metapackages

2012-07-10 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
On 2012-07-10 20:15, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On 12-07-10 at 07:35pm, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > > On 2012-07-10 18:10, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > The very purpose of a meta-package is to _ensure_ that a certain set > > > of packages is installed, not just re

Re: Recommends for metapackages

2012-07-10 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
On 2012-07-10 22:21, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 10 iul 12, 22:07:10, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > > > > ... And I disagree with that. No solution can override policy's "all > > Depends must be satisfied". If one choose to support the "exclude from >

Re: Recommends for metapackages

2012-07-11 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
On 2012-07-11 14:33, Gergely Nagy wrote: > "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes: > > > Moreover, despite me understanding the picture, I still > > has no clean, safe and documented way to do what I'd want in case the > > package maintainer chosed Depends. >

Re: tech-ctte help needed: main dependencies on non-free/contrib

2012-07-17 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
..] I wrote a small program to list them, please find the (hopefully awk'able and hopefully correct) output in attachment. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++ GNU/Linux developer, Debian Developer avahi-ui-utils: Recommends: 'vnc-viewer' [c

choice in core infrastructure decisions (Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism)

2012-08-10 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
n, stopping developing the standards. Have seen examples of all that occasionally. I believe this hurts Debian (or any other project which chose to not accept choices in certain areas) in the long run and don't fit to 'making [...] technically excellent' well. YMMV. -- Eugene V.

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