Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Emile van Bergen
oud) is a 'good fellow'. > > Well since you asked. I think GWB is a 'good fellow'. Yes. Too bad he didn't happily stay being a good fellow on his ranch in Texas. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70

Re: Debian for x86-64 (AMD Opteron) and migration?

2003-06-16 Thread Emile van Bergen
is that it will be necessary to make the source package for libreadline4 generate two packages, libreadline4 and lib64readline4. Same for all other libraries. IOW, there's no automatic way to create all these lib64* packages from source. Have I summarised this correctly? Cheers, Emile. --

Re: Bug#197907: ITP: quark -- an audio player, for geeks, by geeks.

2003-06-18 Thread Emile van Bergen
x27; /var/lib/dpkg/available | wc -l 1163 at least on woody, with just a few small extra repositories. The lowercase recommendation seems much less followed: $ grep '^Description: [A-Z]' /var/lib/dpkg/available | wc -l 7661 $ grep '^Description: [a-z]' /var/lib/dpkg/available | wc -l 1262 Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl

Re: Bug#198602: ITP: debbackup -- Backup and restore Debian specifics (package status, conffiles)

2003-06-24 Thread Emile van Bergen
files. *g* 5 serious replies already -- sorry Adam, I'm afraid there are just too many people that lack even the most basic sense of humour. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl pgpeChrcNkxJV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Emile van Bergen
is a 16-bit CPU and its protected mode MMU mode offers only segmentation, no paging. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-29 Thread Emile van Bergen
ot;hppa" may be three or four arches to > the NetBSD kernel folk.) Turbochannel machines? VAXen? Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-02 Thread Emile van Bergen
at's closest to GNU. Why should the universal operating system not fit that niche as well? It just needs someone to do it. Since you brought it up and seem to feel passionately about the issue, you're probably the best candidate to create such a package. HTH, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl pgpj0yHadjySe.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-03 Thread Emile van Bergen
can see a similar benefit in harmonizing the various documentation licenses, that serves Free Software and Our Users. Free Software is definitely served by standards and documentation, and convenient off line access to them. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl

Re: [Debian-au] Debian 10th birthday gear

2003-07-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 12:06:03AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Anybody else get a bad cryptographic signature on the message to which I > am replying? AOL. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl

Re: the RFC mess: tentative summary

2003-07-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
your choice. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-30 Thread Emile van Bergen
. If Debian cannot distribute the decss that allows Debian users to view DVD movies (yet), then distributing this one is a good alternative, I'd say. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-30 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 11:38:12AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:56:32PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: > > > >I object to this ITP. Not very strongly, but I still object. > > > I think it's a wonderful idea to have a decss pac

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-31 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:01:29PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:48:55PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:38:12 -0500 > > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:5

Re: How to install X-Chat in five hours (or more)

2003-08-05 Thread Emile van Bergen
s, UI-wise. I fully agree with the poster that increasing the number of intelligent and intelligible English sentences that we output is one of those things that can be done without harming the hacker in any way. Of course, like any enhancement, it needs a volunteer who can scratch his or her itch b

Re: How to install X-Chat in five hours (or more)

2003-08-05 Thread Emile van Bergen
s quickly as I think. I really hate it when the UI drags me down ('open folder, open subfolder, click on file, type Ctrl-C, open other folder, type Ctrl-V', it's just horrible). The computer should wait for me, not the other way around! Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile

Re: How to install X-Chat in five hours (or more)

2003-08-06 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 03:15:59PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 21:38:19 +0200 > Emile van Bergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Apple has a great way of doing that. They don't dumb down, they don't > > belittle you, they assume an intellig

Re: How to install X-Chat in five hours (or more)

2003-08-06 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 11:06:53PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Emile van Bergen > > | Hi, > | > | On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:19:53AM -0700, Ian Hickson wrote: > | > | > And I would scream if you called it "/_My_ Variable Data/" too... :

Re: Should MUA only Recommend mail-transfer-agent?

2003-08-06 Thread Emile van Bergen
-t or through SMTP. I would not consider anything that contains a SMTP client an MTA. A proxy that handles port 25 is no MTA either. Such strict definitions ('talks SMTP') are generally not very useful. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl

Re: Should MUA only Recommend mail-transfer-agent?

2003-08-06 Thread Emile van Bergen
e the local part of the transport > may also be implemented on the smarthost, eg. sharing /var/mail > directory and the user database some other system which also acts as the > ssmtp's smarthost. You're right, it /is/ a hot day. Sorry. I agree with your definition. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Emile van Bergen
e other variation; it is a goal in > itself, and not a means to an end) I've heard our respected project secretary express a vastly different opinion on this matter. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Emile van Bergen
e will be eternally grateful. Or at least entertained. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 11:39:25PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 09:38:43PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 07:34:26PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > > > > altruim, [sic] > > > > > >

Re: Returned Mail

2003-08-22 Thread Emile van Bergen
excellent that these bounces don't have the full message, but show only the first few kB, in a way that breaks the message's MIME structure well and thoroughly. After bouncing, at least a virus can't take advantage of the abysmal Outlook (Express) HTML and MIME handling anymore -- the

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread Emile van Bergen
an ethical concept, and I'm sure the Bhagavat Ghita (Dutch transliteration) talks a lot about it in connection to Dharma. Self censorship is if one side of you is compelled to say something whereas another part of you forbids it. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies / Emile van Bergen | [EMAIL

Re: Ask yourself some questions

2002-11-22 Thread Emile van Bergen
vour of the GR... (just to refute the argument that > Branden's joke could only appeal to people on his side in this debate ;-)) Same here, and I'm not exactly in favour of the GR either. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies / Emile van Bergen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153| http://www.e-advies.info

Re: Need access to an Alpha

2002-11-24 Thread Emile van Bergen
d it. I have no problem running it for a week though if you need the time. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies / Emile van Bergen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153| http://www.e-advies.info pgpLHlwWStLQK.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-25 Thread Emile van Bergen
ing/unstable once in a while to show we've got the fancy stuff too does make sense though, IMHO. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies / Emile van Bergen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153| http://www.e-advies.info pgpw3iFnDXGRe.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Emile van Bergen
even managed to find a time where both > of us can be on the same IRC network at the same time. > > Now for the *real* important debate: how to call it? What about Avalon? Both a composer (well, hmm) and the place where Excalibur was forged. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies / Emile van B

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:55:56AM +0100, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: > On Nov/27, Emile van Bergen wrote: > > > What about Avalon? Both a composer (well, hmm) and the place where > > Excalibur was forged. > > Being about forging, "Orodruin" com

Re: DAM approval wait time?

2002-11-27 Thread Emile van Bergen
e *puke*. Sorry. I don't care who you are or who Andrew is. This is totally out of bounds, in /any/ circumstance. Thanks, Emile. -- E-Advies / Emile van Bergen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153| http://www.e-advies.info pgpcvJkY55IGT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-28 Thread Emile van Bergen
AND-license." Bah. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies / Emile van Bergen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153| http://www.e-advies.info pgp4ZYWM8L3hW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-28 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 11:47:52AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Emile van Bergen writes: > > I'd say that the definition of Unicode, heck even ASCII, involves a fair > > amount of creativity. > > I don't doubt that the development of Unicode involved cre

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-28 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 10:47:02PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 07:02:07PM +0100, Emile van Bergen wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 11:47:52AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > > > > Is it possible to create other Unicode tables

Re: Pre-linux Windows program - was Re: bill gates Linux

2002-12-08 Thread Emile van Bergen
would only be needed when the user wants to get rid of the relatively minor performance penalty of the extra FS layer. Can Linux work with a loopback root fs, using initrd to set it up? Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies / Emile van Bergen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153

Re: Pre-linux Windows program - was Re: bill gates Linux

2002-12-08 Thread Emile van Bergen
w to do it there. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies / Emile van Bergen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153| http://www.e-advies.info

Re: Pre-linux Windows program - was Re: bill gates Linux

2002-12-08 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 12:24:56PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 07:08:17PM +0100, Emile van Bergen wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 11:31:11AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > Why make it a separate program that runs under Windows?

Re: Debian for x86-64 (AMD Opteron)

2003-04-10 Thread Emile van Bergen
ed a way to present the extra choices caused by legal-archs in dselect. How would that be done? Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl pgprxcutj0URl.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian for x86-64 (AMD Opteron)

2003-04-10 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 05:23:12PM +0200, Cyrille Chepelov wrote: > Le Thu, Apr 10, 2003, à 04:43:57PM +0200, Emile van Bergen a écrit: > > > > That way you could do something like: > > > > > > # echo x86-64 >> /etc/dpkg/legal-archs > > >

Re: Debian for x86-64 (AMD Opteron)

2003-04-10 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 05:27:40PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 04:43:57PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 03:33:39PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > > [SNIP] > > > So basically, I don't think this i

Re: Debian for x86-64 (AMD Opteron)

2003-04-11 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 06:23:12PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 10 April 2003 16:43, Emile van Bergen wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 03:33:39PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > >

Re: Debian for x86-64 (AMD Opteron)

2003-04-11 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 09:42:52PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Friday 11 April 2003 15:49, Emile van Bergen wrote: > > > You do want to allow both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of libraries to be > > installed, for which you need different package names; you want t

Re: Bug#189347: stop the "manage with debconf" madness

2003-04-18 Thread Emile van Bergen
a lot of them must be treated as fully opaque. Definition should be done like you'd treat a network protocol, with a healty dose of "be conservative in what you write, be liberal in what you read", to paraphrase the great J. Postel, as it /will/ be a protocol, spoken between package

Re: Bug#189370: acknowledged by developer (irrelevant)

2003-04-23 Thread Emile van Bergen
all -- no idea) or make his texmf.cnf a symlink to the texmf-debian.cnf? I.e. have a fully managed file, but leave it to the admin whether or not his real file points to the managed file, or includes it (if possible), or ignores it altogether. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen

Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian

2003-04-23 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 10:49:09AM -0700, Mark Rafn wrote: > That said, I'd prefer Debian NOT remove such advertising, only that we > guarantee users the right to do. *And* distribute the result, if you want to be DFSG-free. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile

Re: Only .changes files are readable in NEW/

2003-04-24 Thread Emile van Bergen
is > already registered. Considering the legislators' feeling for these matters, I'm surprised nobody's been able to convince these people to allow registration to happen in write only memory. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Emile van Bergen
rly as well as the various flavours of the 486. In other words, if you use 486-compatible instructions and pentium scheduling, you're already taking almost full advantage of the pentium. It makes therefore little sense to group the original pentium with the later architectures. Cheers, Emile.

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Emile van Bergen
e problem is STL and the fact that a lot of C++ programmers tend to forget to conquer while dividing. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl pgpurcLir9xvi.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-26 Thread Emile van Bergen
ed the gap between 486 > > DX and SX. > > It works just as well for 386SX as for 486SX. Note that the SX suffix for 386 means a 16-bit external data bus (instead of a 32-bit one for the DX), whereas for 486 the SX means no FP included. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen

Re: Bug#191037: /run/, resolvconf and read-only root

2003-04-28 Thread Emile van Bergen
> So, for now I'll sit back and see what other people do about /run. If you mean other GNU/Linux distributions or the *BSDs, don't hold your breath. If you mean Debian developers, it seems that a lot of good progress is being made. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl pgph51ZQB9X4u.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Announcing Debian Package Tags

2003-04-28 Thread Emile van Bergen
set of multiple choice options. They cannot be connected in a meaningful way to anything that developer hasn't explicitly created an interface for. The user can only do what the developer intended; no more, no less. That is not in the best interest of our users, I'd say. Cheers, Emile.

Re: Announcing Debian Package Tags

2003-04-30 Thread Emile van Bergen
our is when you type a quote, causing the next prompt to be different). Also, people tend to have a lot larger memory for words than for images and unpronounceable hieroglyphs (icons, and -- shudder -- tool bars). It's not that I think GUIs are bad in any way. It's just that they are vastly overrate

Re: Bug#193017: ITP: ipsvd -- Internet protocol service daemons

2003-05-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
atch to limit the total mail output for a mail relay to a certain average. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl pgp6E84FF9ChE.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
s and/or AMs, who /are/ DDs, could warrant a debian.net name, can't it? That no DD had to spend much energy to set this up is only a good thing, isn't it? In short, why pick on this useful initiative? Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl pgpQePf62zWoU.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
work through a sponsor. Allowing DDs to take advantage of the work of lesser gods, whenever that is practical and useful, seems a good thing for all parties concerned. And no, IANADD. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl pgpM3uXEUAtYx.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 09:48:49AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:07:12PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: > [...] > > Regardless, I actually think it's a wonderful scaleability measure > > to provide some infrastructure

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
solved I'd say? After all, if I understand correctly, the service is more intended for use by sponsors who would upload them into unstable after checking, than directly for users. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 390615

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-17 Thread Emile van Bergen
gt; these days don't give a damn about the 'rules' dreamt up by academics in > 1985! So what do you propose then, to drop everything just because you cynically point out that a lot of rules are being violated today? Or were you just trolling? Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Berge

Re: Do not touch l10n files

2003-05-18 Thread Emile van Bergen
) > > You would be surprised in any case, if speaking English would be a > prerequisite for running routers then the Internet would not be as it is > today. Yes, most notably the spam levels would be much more bearable. Sorry, couldn't resist. Of course, that's al

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 10:26:38AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > Emile van Bergen wrote: > > So what do you propose then, to drop everything just because you > > cynically point out that a lot of rules are being violated today? > > What I'm saying is that (a lot of) t

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-19 Thread Emile van Bergen
fort (and including a text/plain part is no effort, not forwarding virus hoaxes is no effort, but proving to a robot that you are not *is*), there is no need to drop any netiquette rules. In short, I still fail to see your point. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-20 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 07:14:33AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > Emile van Bergen wrote: > > However, I fail to understand why you want people to refrain from > > bringing the netiquette under the attention of the people they are > > receiving email from. > > Never

Re: Executable /lib/ld-linux.so breaks noexec

2003-05-20 Thread Emile van Bergen
ould fix your security problem. I'm not saying userland security is never needed or useful, but still: never use userland security as a substitute for properly set up filesystem permissions. Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl pgpuM75iqCpsm.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-22 Thread Emile van Bergen
rotect ourselves! You need a strong man to protect you!" Etc.) Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl