; > [IGNORE] No fix or workaround available for potato (ajt)
>
> Is this fixed in woody? I have been forced to shutdown nscd
> totaly, but I'd like to have this function...
I'm starting testing of glibc 2.1.93 right now. We'll see how it goes.
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>
> Ben> On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 04:06:33PM +, michael d. ivey wrote:
> >> I started maki
c.debian.org in
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On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 06:55:54PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> Ben Collins wrote:
> > > That kind of packaging is a hack, and a very user unfriendly one. I'd
> > > like
> > > to have native bzip support, to have a lftp.orig.bz2.
> >
> > lol,
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 07:43:07PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> Ben Collins wrote:
> > > It doesn't matter if it's user-friendly. The DBS package format is not
> > > developer-friendly.
> >
> > But it's maintainer friendly, and that is far more use
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 08:26:37PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> Ben Collins wrote:
> > Still, documentation. Dpkg-source isn't friendly without documentation.
> > Nothing is.
>
> "Oh look, here's a tarball. Hm, and here is a patch that seems to apply
> to it. O
d
discussions on it. How about the folks who hate DBS join in and make the
end result suitable for everyone.
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y the time woody releases, I want to remove the libdb2
dependency from libc6. It's only there for now to keep things from
breaking on running systems.
Ben
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gt; > could be.
>
> I think aside of one diff or many diffs a list of patches done to the code
> and where you got them from is a good thing to have in every package.
Most patches are done by the maintainer, or submitted as bug reports. Those
are listed in the changelog, but even then,
eep it at db.h, since in a few days, it wont matter. Db2 is getting removed
from glibc, and your only choice will be "db.h" or "db2/db.h" from libdb2
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> Ben Collins wrote:
> > > I think aside of one diff or many diffs a list of patches done to the code
> > > and where you got them from is a good thing to have in every package.
> >
> > Most patch
ly use /usr/share/doc will work with
it.
We just need a script/program that sanely does this transition, then
creates the /usr/doc -> share/doc symlink.
Ben
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On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 12:00:26PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > from the secret journal of Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > > Solution: just deal with the few spam we get so as not to hinder real
> > > discussions.
> > >
> > > Ben
> >
>
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:21:46AM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote:
> Quoting Ben Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > BTW, I'm on a 28.8, and I get over 1000 emails a day from all the lists I
> > am sub'd to. So I do see a lot of spam, even beyond Debian's lists.
king dpkf on vfat...)
Heh. Do you have any idea how hard it is to implement rollback? Without
package support, it is almost impossible without a system layer handling
it (snapshot of preinstall state, so you can revert completely back to it).
Ben
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You are missing the fact that the old package does not understand that
the new package possibly setup some things (configuration settings,
diversions, symlinks, removal of cruft, alternatives) that it cannot
recover from. You are missing the fact that it is not as
if you want sparc to be unbootable, which I
hope is not your intention.
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ing works. You need to find your red herrings some place else.
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nless they present too many bugs to
stay in. Silo had no bugs above normal, only 6 bugs in all, 5 of them
were closable as is (already fixed), and the last was wishlist.
Put up or shut up (to use your unique vernacular), because if you
haven't got anything useful to say, you are just pissi
installation. Give Matthias time, or email him directly with
your concerns.
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ted for
the port it is using, so check the source for the call to pam_start(),
and check the first argument passed to it. That is the service name, and
the name of the file expected in /etc/pam.d/
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description of what the patch does, so that the gcc
build system can parse it out and put all of the Debian changes into one
file, specific to that revision/arch.
Adam, don't put down a system that precedes dbs. It is tried and true
to it's purpose and solves things that DBS cannot.
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ch, which is noted in the changelog if you had
bothered to read it. There's no such thing as "early access", this is
open source you know :)
Ben
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On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 04:47:55PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> Ben Collins wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 04:03:45PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> > > Happy new year to everyone!
> > >
> > > gcc 2.95.3 appeared in Sid, but it hasn't been an
in case).
> 5. Remove /usr/doc
> 6. Link /usr/doc to /usr/share/doc
>
Exactly, except '6' should be "Link /usr/doc to share/doc", so chrooted
systems can be more easily maintained.
Ben
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them.
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usr/doc and /usr/man
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rm -rf $OLDDOC/$item
else
rm -rf $NEWDOC/$item
exit 1
fi
That should handle filesystem full errors a bit better.
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ce you know :)
>
> Ack!(tm). Not shades of rh7, I hope? I know that people using sid (like
> myself) are willingly sado-masochists, but a CVS GCC?
Uh, GCC 2.95.3 CVS NOT 2.96 OR 2.97! Please be careful what you say. We
are talking about a stable release here, not a dripping wet developm
t; > myself) are willingly sado-masochists, but a CVS GCC?
> >
> > Uh, GCC 2.95.3 CVS NOT 2.96 OR 2.97! Please be careful what you say. We
> > are talking about a stable release here, not a dripping wet development
> > snapshot.
>
> So what was the CVS branch refer
ee why I thought you
were just having a bad day, and misreading things!?! The latter IS
defined in the headers.
WHAT TO DO:
- Get a clue
- Read better
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maintaining
glibc until Aug 31, 2000 (my first changelog entry). So no, I have not
been sitting on this for 7 months. Get your facts straight.
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So if
you need this, either keep it around from potato, or convince someone to
package it seperately.
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it isn't causing
this? Also, what kernel ar you running?
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graded to 'serious'.
Well, packages that cannot be built wont be put into testing, basically
because the version isn't compiled on all archs. So it wont be released
anyway. IMO, build failures on non-release archs (those not in testing)
should be considered "important"
ug is not that
it prints this info, but that it uses the env variable even when
suid/sgid. This wasn't supposed to happen, and the actual fix was a
missing comma in the list of secure env vars that were supposed to be
cleared when a program starts up suid/sgid (including RESOLV_HOST_CONF).
Ben
r.)
>
> No.
Argeed. Lots of packages take several hours to build, even on fairly
recent systems. Let the porter decide what to exclude in this case.
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the bugs get
> closed.
Your case is wrong. What if the bug didn't exist in woody, and only in
stable?
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On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:53:05PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>
> I just ran some stats on my APT sources (mostly Woody), and discovered
> that the distribution of number of packages per developer is very
> uneven. This is the histogram of developers with the specific number
> of packages
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 11:25:03PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2003 22:15, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > Because in Debian there is a few people with high "load" in debian,
> > and many with less "load". People with high load are more likely to
> > burn out and disappear. It is
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 02:17:05PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
> Hi to all!
>
> Kernel 2.6 is to be released soon (hopefully), thus I tried to compile
> 2.5.69 on sparc64 recently. For those not knowing this arch: kernel is
> 64 bit, userland is 32 bit, thus you need a cross-compiler with host
> spa
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 02:29:42PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
> I intend to package the xplot utility from xplot.org. This tool is
> useful with the tcptrace package, which I maintain. However, there's
> already an xplot package that installs /usr/bin/xplot. It's not
> compatible with xplot.or
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 01:44:31PM -0400, Bart Trojanowski wrote:
> On amd64, we currently have a biarch-gcc that builds 32bit binaries by
> default, and 64bit ones with a -m64 option. Coding debian/rules for this
> is pretty trivial but still requires some ugly architecture specific
> hacks in ea
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 05:47:10PM +0200, J?rgen A.Erhard wrote:
> I'm releasing these things now... have them in development and use for
> a couple weeks/months now.
>
> A Python module for doing debsigs-type package signatures and
> verification thereof. Uses and included module for GnuPG file
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 05:47:10PM +0200, J?rgen A.Erhard wrote:
> I'm releasing these things now... have them in development and use for
> a couple weeks/months now.
>
> A Python module for doing debsigs-type package signatures and
> verification thereof. Uses and included module for GnuPG file
> __u8 short slot_tablelen;
Isn't it just a plain error? Either it's a char, or it's a short. It
can't be both, right?
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On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 02:29:38PM +0200, Christoph Martin wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> as of the latest update of libssl0.9.7 the postinst is able to restart
> certain services which use the ssl or crypto library, so that they don't
> use the faulty libraries any longer. I used part of the code from
>
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 02:29:38PM +0200, Christoph Martin wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> as of the latest update of libssl0.9.7 the postinst is able to restart
> certain services which use the ssl or crypto library, so that they don't
> use the faulty libraries any longer. I used part of the code from
>
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 09:42:42PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 21:25, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
> > I think this should be clearly discussed.
>
> Just to prevent any confusion I'll just point out that
> the rant you quoted was authored by Eray Ozkural.
Thanks, you saved me from re
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:51:14PM +0200, Magos?nyi ?rp?d wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I am asking your advice per policy section 10.9. [*]
>
> /etc/zorp is mode 0700 in upstream. In a typical setup, almost
> every single file under this directory contains sensitive information:
> firewall rules, cryptograph
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 06:20:15PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> (I thought I sent this, but now I cannot find it to be sure.)
>
> I'd like to build against sid on a machine (ia64) I don't own but
> which Debian does have available.
>
> I tried the recipe from the developer's manual using fakeroot.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 05:42:22PM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Could someone tell me which package uses jam instead make for building?
> I am trying to package netpanzer and it uses jam...
> I'd like to see any examples how to connect debian/rules with jam.
>
> I hope the
> This problem has already bitten several skilled Debian developers at various
> times. Given the problems that are caused for such skilled people as a
> result of this I hate to imagine the consequences for typical users!
But typical users wont be building custom kernels with ACL patches, will
> But I do have a cursor font, even though I don't have xfonts-gimpers 1.8
> installed (it refuses to install anyway). But I do have xfonts-artwiz
> installed. I purged xfonts-gimpers from my system and now X has a brain
> tumor. This is a critical bug and should have been fixed by now.
apt-get in
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 01:50:22AM +0200, Luca Barbieri wrote:
> According to Junichi's manual they should be in -dev packages (that
> makes sense, since they are only used by libtool builds).
Yes, it's a bug. Consider that the .la file is usually without soname
(e.g. libfoo.la) it will clash when
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 07:29:23PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Ben Collins wrote:
>
> > Not only that, it's only useful for linking, so has no reason being in
> > the primary runtime.
>
> ltdl needs them at runtime.
Then ltdl is broken. How doe
> 1/ we don't want to have to know the technical
> details of how to get to the step4/ above (in the
> given table above).
> 2/we want one of the following:-
> A/ to be able to insert a floppy disk into
> our "a" drive , turn on the computer,
> the comp
On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 08:07:03PM +0400, Hans Reiser wrote:
> Please explain your reasons for removing the credits and attributions
> from the reiserfs utilities in violation of our copyright.
>
> You'll note that ReiserFS anticipated the GNU GPL V3 by including
> clauses that forbid removal of
> all that was removed was *code* that gets compiled. If the maintainer
> cannot arbitrarily change any code he wants, then it is not clear that
> the program is DFSG-free.
Amen. Making part of the code immutable is not what I call free
software. What if I want to use parts of the code and I re
On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 08:24:21PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote:
> > Now I hope you stop with your trolling and consider speaking
> > respectfully to us. I am pretty sure that if you emailed the maintainer
> > of the package and pointed out the facts to him, he would revert the
> > change.
>
> Dude,
>
On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 11:13:59PM +0200, Anders Widman wrote:
> >> all that was removed was *code* that gets compiled. If the maintainer
> >> cannot arbitrarily change any code he wants, then it is not clear that
> >> the program is DFSG-free.
>
> > Amen. Making part of the code immutable is n
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 12:13:08PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On pe, 2003-04-25 at 11:09, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote:
> > They just don't support i386 anymore.
> >
> > http://www.suse.de/en/private/products/suse_linux/i386/system_requirements.html
> > http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/technica
> On the 12th March I sent out a maintainer ping to 191 possibly
> inactive Debian developers. The list of developers was generated by
> looking first at all maintainers who didn't have a source package
> signed by (one of) their key(s) in unstable and then excluding from
> that anyone who had bee
> ==
>
> PROPOSAL
> __
>
> Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying:
> ___
> What are other developers' feelings on the matter these days?
If we're doing "let's have a conf where we normally don't" how about we
have it on the US's east coast aswell. I'd personally argue for the
nothern Virginia are myself.
Too many conferences are held on the US's West coast, and if con
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 11:23:51AM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
> En r?ponse ? Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Alioth seems to be down, pings seems to stop at gatekeeper.terena.nl
> > ...
> >
> > Was this expected?
>
> Yes, and no.
>
> No, because it is a connection failure.
> Yes,
> That behavior always struck me as fairly evil -- it's never fun when one
> single bit flip can take down a system, and I'd like to see the number
> of bits that can do so be as small as possible. Now that you point out
> the actual code I wish we could do away with that check. Does it really
> bu
e
vendors to fix their equipment, and all of these corporations to apply
those fixes, before spreading ECN, then DaveM might be the only person
who ever uses it, and nothing will get fixed.
That fact that things get broken, and people complain, is one reason
that things get fixed.
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On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 01:02:47AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Ben Collins wrote:
>
> > If we left everything to "you have to be smart enough", then let's just
> > leave out the entire linux kernel, most of the software in Debian, and
> >
x27;ll see how that goes.
Ben
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. It is only there so that things compiled
against the upstream soname will work.
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The former is not very conformant to soname schemes, the
latter is. Gnome can use whatever it wants to link with it, but the
soname is still libdb3.so.3.
Ben
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On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:27:38AM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote:
> At Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:59:24 -0400,
> Ben Collins wrote:
> > > I cannot find out why `libdb-3' is used and spreaded over the gnome
> > > packages. Naming soname is sensitive issue, IMHO.
> >
>
if
void std::reverse(std::vector::iterator, std::vector::iterator);
Just FYI :)
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art of Virginia (Gloucester to be exact). My resume is
referenced below (I am a Debian developer).
http://marcus.seva.net/~bmc/resume/
Ben
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tell netscape
and any other web browser to just view the contents as plain text.
Ben
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ers-2.2
or
Build-Depends: kernel-headers-2.4
You'll notice that recent kernel-headers packages provide the
major.minor if the kernel version.
Ben
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ed to the kernel-headers package
scripts? Does anyone see a problem with this solution (that isn't
already a problem with the current usage of kernel headers in libc6-dev
that is)? Anyone got a solution for the -preX case, which would probably
make this method rock solid?
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> non-issue as people realise this and stop using kernel headers.
That's wishful thinking, but I agree. I'm not sure it is possible
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l package managers atleast can aim for something,
instead of shooting in the dark like we do now. The LSB needs to stay
away from trying to standardize a binary format (who cares if it's
tar.gz, ar or cpio). They will only piss people off.
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es beeint installed by default, either
> allways, or with some user interacton (yes/no, which locale etc.). IMO
> this should be included as one of the first questions in baseconfig.
With an installed size of over 8megs, I don't think that is such a good
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On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 10:22:12AM +0300, Ari Makela wrote:
> Ben Collins writes:
>
> > With an installed size of over 8megs, I don't think that is such a good
> > idea.
>
> During the configuration phase we get a rough time zone
> information. For example,
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 09:25:04AM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 03:16:25AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 08:24:43AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > > #include
> > > Santiago Vila wrote on Mon Sep 03, 2001 um 02:21:04AM
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:19:01PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit
>
> > This isn't a matter of not using it, it's a matter of a sane base
> > install. Perhaps base-config could ask if the user wants locales. Kno
ls that a person can play, then it only
> belongs in contrib.
That's not true. If it is possible to create game levels for it that are
free, than it is considered free. It's not like you can't get anything
but id's game data.
Ben
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 11:57:21PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
>
> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > That's not true. If it is possible to create game levels for it that are
> > free, than it is considered free. It's not like you can&
port.
Other than that, check the config.log output to see why it failed.
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On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 06:23:31PM +0100, Mikael Hedin wrote:
>
> Ben Collins writes:
> > Your package better use gcc, not gcc-3.0. Using anything other than the
> > default supported compiler gets you a bug report.
>
> But it doesn't build with g++-2.95.
Then fix
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 06:07:02PM +, Jules Bean wrote:
>
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 11:06:11AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 11:57:21PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > >
> > > Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 07:07:06PM +0100, Mikael Hedin wrote:
>
> Ben Collins writes:
> > Start you own build on vore.debian.org and find it there.
>
> Smart. You should be our leader ;-) Sorry for being rather stupid.
>
> Anyway, g++-3.0 seems to be completely brok
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 06:54:10PM +, Philip Blundell wrote:
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> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Collins writes:
> >Don't discount sparc just because the code is broken. That's a bug in
> >itself. Fix the code, get it to compile. SPARC is one of the most
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 07:35:59PM +, Jules Bean wrote:
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> On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 01:42:41PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> > gcc to meet those same requirements? You do realize that there are
> > plenty of free levels out there for quake2 right? We don't have to
> &
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 12:40:06PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
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> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > So if I create a game with _no_ levels, but the tools to create them,
> > then is it none-free? Just because the only ones available are non-free,
&
On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 10:48:09AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
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> On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 01:42:41PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> > blimpo:~# gcc
> > gcc: No input files
> >
> > You have to write or get code for gcc. Should we deliver a hello.c with
> > gcc
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 11:50:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
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> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > I think that's rediculous. Education is not a smokescreen, and you can't
> > argue that there will never be free data available for qu
On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 12:22:27AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
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> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > Ok, I'm going to upload libgaming. Nothing yet has been created for it,
> > but it is possible. Should I upload it to contrib?
>
> Can yo
Do
not judge the engine based on the data files that are available for it
(else we'll have to start judging script interpreters and libraries the
same way).
Ben
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On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 04:08:30PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
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> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 12:22:27AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > >
> > > Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 06:57:45PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
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> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > But quake2-engine does not depend on anything to fulfill it's purpose.
> > It is a gaming engine, not a game. This is the same logic t
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