Re: Suggestions about i386 support

2024-06-09 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Sun, 2024-06-09 at 08:58 -0500, r...@neoquasar.org wrote: > What it is is functional, and paid for. And likely, already installed > and in use somewhere (like all of my 32-bit systems).ย  > > It's not just a matter of "buy something better." That's easy.ย  Indeed, that is easier and cheaper

Re: ifupdown maintenance

2024-07-09 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi Simon, On Tue, 2024-07-09 at 22:44 +0900, Simon Richter wrote: > I believe NM does not have a fixed configuration format, but only a dbus > API. It's perfectly fine to edit configuration files for NM manually, see man:nm-settings-keyfile(5). > Our best bet there would be a firstboot unit,

Re: ifupdown maintenance

2024-07-10 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi Simon, On Thu, 2024-07-11 at 05:14 +0900, Simon Richter wrote: > It is supported *now*, but the roadmap is unclear -- that support could > be discontinued at any moment, and it would not be the first time a > feature Debian relied on was removed. I understand your fears about the uncertainty

Re: what about Netplan?

2024-07-16 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Tue, 2024-07-16 at 15:23 +0200, Lukas Mรคrdian wrote: > On 16.07.24 15:05, gregor herrmann wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 13:13:16 +0200, Philip Hands wrote: > > > > > I suspect having something that's agnostic about the underlying > > > implementation as our default would be rather better

Re: Linux bounce handler

2024-07-19 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi Texas, thank you for your interest in Debian. However the debian-devel@ mailing list is for development of Debian itself which your mail is not about. If you want personal support to implement solutions based on Debian, you can try contacting someone providing services for Debian (https://www.

Re: ifupdown maintenance

2024-09-16 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Sun, 2024-09-15 at 23:07 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 02:13:26PM +0200, Daniel Grรถber wrote: > > If ifupdown's paradigm were working for people we wouldn't be having this > > conversation. > > How else would you move /etc/network/interfaces forward without breaking

Re: usrmerge breaks POSIX

2024-02-14 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi Vincent, On Wed, 2024-02-14 at 18:20 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > POSIX says: > > ย  SHELLย ย  This variable shall represent a pathname of the user's > ย  preferred command language interpreter. If this interpreter > ย  does not conform to the Shell Command Language in XCU >

Re: On merging bin and sbin

2024-02-28 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi Helmut, On Wed, 2024-02-28 at 07:41 +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote: > I see that you are working on merging /bin and /sbin, for instance > via > brltty bug #1064785. Again Fedora is pioneering this matter and their > documentation is at > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unify_bin_and_sbin.

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-30 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Sun, 2024-03-31 at 00:40 +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 05:00:26PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > I think that the real question is whether we should really still > > use > > code-signing keys which are not stored in (some kind of) HSM. > What are the option

Re: xz backdoor

2024-04-01 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Sun, 2024-03-31 at 14:34 +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bรฉcue wrote: > The PGP submodule of a Yubikey can host 3 keys, one signing, one > authent, and one encrypt. ISTR accessing the signing key is always > prompting for the PIN. Same for the encryption key. (I think both can > be configured other

Re: De-vendoring gnulib in Debian packages

2024-05-12 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Sun, 2024-05-12 at 08:41 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > "Theodore Ts'o" writes: > > And yet, we seem to have given a pass for gnulib, probably because it > > would be too awkward to enforce that rule *everywhere*, so apparently > > we've turned a blind eye. > > No, there's an explicit exc

Re: About i386 support

2024-05-20 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Sun, 2024-05-19 at 10:30 -0500, r...@neoquasar.org wrote: > I have an N270 system I can use to contribute, if someone is willing > to explain what I need to do to make it useful.ย  > > From: Victor Gamper > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2024 08:03 > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re:

Re: MBF: drop dependencies on system-log-daemon

2024-05-27 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Mon, 2024-05-27 at 03:29 +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > TL;DR: drop or downgrade dependency on system-log-daemon from any > package that declares it +1. Log service freedom is important. Packages should in general not pull in a log service as a dependency. > The list of affected packages a

Re: lintian preventing uploads

2024-10-20 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Mon, 2024-10-21 at 15:05 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > $ cat debian/source/lintian-overrides > # We aren't building with Discord support and therefore everything under > # 3rdparty/discord-rpc is not relevant.ย  If in future we add Discord support > we > # should Build-Depend on rapidjson-

Re: proposal: Hybrid network stack for Trixie

2024-09-23 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Mon, 2024-09-23 at 12:22 +0200, Lukas Mรคrdian wrote: > On 22.09.24 15:58, Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€ wrote: > > On Fri, 2024-09-20 at 13:12 +0200, Lukas Mรคrdian wrote: > > > I've repeated the reasons why I think a hybrid stack using Netplan is a > > > feasible solutio

Re: proposal: Hybrid network stack for Trixie

2024-09-22 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Fri, 2024-09-20 at 13:12 +0200, Lukas Mรคrdian wrote: > I've repeated the reasons why I think a hybrid stack using Netplan is a > feasible solution many times in previous threads, therefore I'd like to refer > to a list of frequently asked questions, instead of spreading more reasons > acros

Re: proposal: Hybrid network stack for Trixie

2024-09-27 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi Steve, On Fri, 2024-09-27 at 11:01 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 12:27:13PM +0200, Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€ wrote: > > So on desktop installations including NetworkManager, netplan will be > > configured to do nothing? Why install netplan at all on desktop s

Re: proposal: Hybrid network stack for Trixie

2024-09-27 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 15:34 +0200, Lukas Mรคrdian wrote: > My ideas was not so much about switching from one networking daemon to > another. > In most cases users will probably stick to the network stack of their chosen > environment. With systemd-networkd and NetworkManager being good candida

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-19 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Thu, 2024-12-19 at 12:34 +0100, Frank Guthausen wrote: > On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 11:00:03 +0100 > Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€ wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-12-19 at 10:09 +0100, Frank Guthausen wrote: > > > > > > Debian GNU/Systemd is only an unofficial > > > su

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-19 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Thu, 2024-12-19 at 11:16 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Also, /etc would thus be full of empty /etc/$proj directories? I don't > see the point of not just putting the example files there? Why making it > more difficult for the admin to configure their server? Examples belong to /usr/share

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-19 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Thu, 2024-12-19 at 10:09 +0100, Frank Guthausen wrote: > On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 09:01:09 +0100 > Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > > No: the expected default for systemd-managed services is to use > > /etc/$SERVICE/ . > > Debian GNU/Systemd is only an unofficial > subdistribution of Debian GNU/Lin

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 13:00 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€, le ven. 20 dรฉc. 2024 12:01:24 +0100, a ecrit: > > On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 11:50 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > What I completely fail to understand is why people would want to not > > > see

Re: Directory structure suggestion for configuration in /etc

2024-12-20 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 11:50 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > What I completely fail to understand is why people would want to not > see any file in /etc. What harm does it *actually* cause? It makes it hard to see what was actually configured: there is random configuration bits, possibly from

Re: Reconsidering Debianโ€™s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

2025-03-09 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Sun, 2025-03-09 at 15:58 +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€ writes: > > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, 2025-03-09 at 14:19 +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > > > Our experience seems to differ, I now run Trisquel and Guix on many of > > > my home a

Re: Reconsidering Debianโ€™s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

2025-03-09 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Sun, 2025-03-09 at 14:19 +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Our experience seems to differ, I now run Trisquel and Guix on many of > my home and machines and servers.ย  For my uses they all work without > non-free firmware.ย  You have to be careful about what hardware you buy, > and chose your u

Re: Reconsidering Debianโ€™s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

2025-03-10 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Mon, 2025-03-10 at 13:27 +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > On 3/9/25 9:20 PM, Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€ wrote: > > What is the point of this then? > > If I understood the argument of FSF correctly, the point is, having the > same freedom as the hardware manufacturer to modify or not m

Re: Reconsidering Debianโ€™s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

2025-03-15 Thread Ansgar ๐Ÿ™€
Hi, On Mon, 2025-03-10 at 10:57 +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > I don't think the above fully resolve my concerns though.ย  The mere > presence of official documented hooks to load non-free software is > problematic from a freedom perspective. Maybe a "free" version of Debian could be provided wit