Re: Call for contributions to maintain existing documentation - Salsa makes it is easy!

2025-01-12 Thread Ahmad Khalifa
On 11/01/2025 20:43, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: There is no need to start new duplicate parallel efforts. Simply contribute to the existing ones. +1, please. Too many docs already :) Anyone can edit the current wiki pages if they want to improve them (although most people I spoke to don't like u

Bug#1092862: ITP: gnudip -- GNU Dyamic IP protocol server and client

2025-01-12 Thread John Lines
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Lines X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: gnudip Version : 2.3.5 Upstream Contact: none * URL : https://gnudip2.sourceforge.net/gnudip-www/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Perl Descript

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people (WAS: Re: Complete and unified documentation for new maintainers

2025-01-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 04:56:15PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 07:13:58PM -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > I don't think Debian should as an organization pay for LLMs. On the > > contrary I would expect LLM providers to offer API keys for free to > > Debian Developers just

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people (was: Re: Complete and unified documentation for new maintainers

2025-01-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 07:13:58PM -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > I don't think Debian should as an organization pay for LLMs. On the > contrary I would expect LLM providers to offer API keys for free to > Debian Developers just like we have other perks listed at > https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBe

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people (was: Re: Complete and unified documentation for new maintainers

2025-01-12 Thread M. Zhou
On Sun, 2025-01-12 at 16:56 +, Colin Watson wrote: > > (I have less fixed views on locally-trained models, but I see no very > compelling need to find more things to spend energy on even if the costs > are lower.) Locally-trained models are not practical in the current stage. State-of-the-art

Re: A 2025 NewYear present: make dpkg --force-unsafe-io the default?

2025-01-12 Thread Ángel
Resending without the attachments, since the mailing list seems to have fully eaten the message, rather than just delaying it until a moderator approval, as I originally thought. Forwarded Message From: Ángel To: debian-devel Subject: Re: A 2025 NewYear present: make dpkg --force

Re: Call for contributions to maintain existing documentation - Salsa makes it is easy!

2025-01-12 Thread Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas
On Sun Jan 12, 2025 at 4:52 PM CET, Ahmad Khalifa wrote: > On 11/01/2025 20:43, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: [..] > Just a heads up on wiki signup: > > Account creation failed: Automatic account creation disabled to stop > > spammers signing up. Please contact w...@debian.org and describe what you > >

Bug#1092897: ITP: python-onnxscript -- naturally author ONNX functions and models using a subset of Python

2025-01-12 Thread M. Zhou
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mo Zhou X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian...@lists.debian.org * Package name: python-onnxscript Version : git head, since there is no versioned release Upstream Contact: Microsoft * URL : https://github.com/micr

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people

2025-01-12 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 1/13/25 03:46, M. Zhou wrote: So what I was talking is simply a choice among the two: 1. A contributor who needs help can leverage LLM for its immediate response and help even if it only correct, for 30% of the time. It requires the contributor to have knowledge and skill t

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people

2025-01-12 Thread Philipp Kern
On 1/12/25 7:46 PM, M. Zhou wrote: > So what I was talking is simply a choice among the two: > 1. A contributor who needs help can leverage LLM for its immediate response > and > help even if it only correct, for 30% of the time. It requires the > contributor > to have knowledge and skil

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people (WAS: Re: Complete and unified documentation for new maintainers

2025-01-12 Thread Ángel
On 2025-01-12 at 18:03 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Watching other people find and fix bugs, even in code they > have written or know well, I can't trust systems built on modern > Markov chains to do better, no matter how much input you give them, and > that's without crediting LLMs as able to

Bug#1092894: ITP: nvm -- Node Version Manager

2025-01-12 Thread ilivanilton rezende barros
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: ilivanilton rezende barros X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, ilivanil...@gmail.com * Package name : nvm Version : 0.40.1 Upstream Contact: Jordan Harband * URL : https://github.com/nvm-sh/nvm/ * License : (MIT) P

Bug#1092895: ITP: zig -- Imperative programming language easily mixed with C

2025-01-12 Thread Nick Black (Public gmail account)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: nick black X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, dankamong...@gmail.com * Package name: zig Version : 0.13.0 Upstream Contact: Andrew Kelley * URL : https://ziglang.org/ * License : MIT Programming Lang: C++ D

Re: Call for contributions to maintain existing documentation - Salsa makes it is easy!

2025-01-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Serafeim, and others, Quoting Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas (2025-01-12 21:54:58) > On Sun Jan 12, 2025 at 4:52 PM CET, Ahmad Khalifa wrote: > > On 11/01/2025 20:43, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > [..] > > Just a heads up on wiki signup: > > > Account creation failed: Automatic account creation disable

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people

2025-01-12 Thread M. Zhou
On Sun, 2025-01-12 at 22:36 +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: > > No-one is stopped from using any of the free offers. I don't think we > need our own chat bot. Of course that means, in turn, that we give up on > feeding it domain-specific knowledge and our own prompt. But that's... > probably fine? One