Re: Bug#1086878: python-catalogue: 2.1.0 was yanked - what version scheme should we use for 2.0.10?

2024-11-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Am Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 11:41:28AM +0100 schrieb Guillem Jover: > Ah I assumed the sources were being taken from pypi, if they are taken > from GitHub, then that explains yes. Perhaps using > https://pypi.org/project/catalogue/#files as the URL for uscan (if uscan > is happy with that one), wo

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix ito

2024-11-07 Thread Roger Lynn
On 06/11/2024 19:20, Bill Allombert wrote: > Le Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 05:35:59PM -0600, Aaron Rainbolt a écrit : >> Hello, and thanks for your time. >> >> I've been a Debian user and contributor for a while, and have noticed a >> rather frustrating issue that I'm interested in potentially >> contri

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix ito

2024-11-07 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Thursday, November 7, 2024 12:53:27 PM MST Roger Lynn wrote: > On 06/11/2024 19:20, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Le Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 05:35:59PM -0600, Aaron Rainbolt a écrit : > >> Hello, and thanks for your time. > >> > >> I've been a Debian user and contributor for a while, and have noticed

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix it

2024-11-07 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 06 Nov 2024 13:08:07 -0600, Aaron Rainbolt wrote: > Then again, > given that policy is clear about how Recommends ought to be used and > it's pretty clear that there are packages that just don't use it right, I'm sorry but I have to disagree here; it's "pretty clear" for you but I believe

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix ito

2024-11-07 Thread Aaron Rainbolt
On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 19:53:27 + Roger Lynn wrote: > On 06/11/2024 19:20, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Le Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 05:35:59PM -0600, Aaron Rainbolt a écrit : > >> Hello, and thanks for your time. > >> > >> I've been a Debian user and contributor for a while, and have > >> noticed a r

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix it

2024-11-07 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 00:08:22 -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote: > Some packages are clearly in Depends, Recommends, or Suggests. Others might > be right > on the line between two of the categories. In these cases, a maintainer has > to make a > judgement call. If a user thinks they have got it wr

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix it

2024-11-07 Thread Julien Plissonneau Duquène
On 07/11/2024 04:12, Aaron Rainbolt wrote: just to get around problematic recommends in Debian's packages. What about having a way to configure the packaging tools you use to only consider a whitelist (with pattern match, pin-style) of package Recommends? This way you could use your metapacka

Re: Bug#1086878: python-catalogue: 2.1.0 was yanked - what version scheme should we use for 2.0.10?

2024-11-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 11:41:28AM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Thu, 2024-11-07 at 02:01:49 +, Colin Watson wrote: > > I'd initially misread it as being just a day or two after the yanked > > version, but you're right, it was months later. I suspect it was simply > > uscan - it's using the

Re: Bug#1086878: python-catalogue: 2.1.0 was yanked - what version scheme should we use for 2.0.10?

2024-11-07 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2024-11-07 at 02:01:49 +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 02:42:08AM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > > Given that I assume the current (non-retracted) upstream version is > > going to be close to surpass the retracted one, I'd go for the +really > > hack. In this case i

Bug#1086975: ITP: feather-wallet -- Small and fast Monero desktop wallet

2024-11-07 Thread Soren Stoutner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Soren Stoutner X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: feather-wallet Version : 2.7.0 Upstream Contact: The Monero Project * URL : https://github.com/feather-wallet/feather * License : BSD Programmin

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix it

2024-11-07 Thread nick black
Colin Watson left as an exercise for the reader: > (https://peps.python.org/pep-0508/#extras): effectively groups of > additional dependencies to enable some kind of feature that you can opt > into if you need that feature, rather than having to pick from an > undifferentiated pile of Recommends, o

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix it

2024-11-07 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 12:08:22AM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote: > On Wednesday, November 6, 2024 10:41:46 PM MST Aaron Rainbolt wrote: > > Again, this isn't a problem limited to a derivative distribution. I > > respect that your opinion of how Recommends should work differs from > > mine. That does

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix it

2024-11-07 Thread Aaron Rainbolt
On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:29:07 -0500 "Theodore Ts'o" wrote: > On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 12:08:22AM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 6, 2024 10:41:46 PM MST Aaron Rainbolt > > wrote: > > > Again, this isn't a problem limited to a derivative distribution. > > > I respect that yo

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix it

2024-11-07 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2024-11-08 00:17, gregor herrmann wrote: The distinction between Depends, Recommends or Suggests is not a true/false thing; this is not a question of mathematics or science but always a judgement call. Adding another category won't solve anything IMO but only extend the sometimes blurry area.

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix ito

2024-11-07 Thread Fay Stegerman
* Aaron Rainbolt [2024-11-08 00:21]: [...] > However, this isn't that hard to rectify - rather than specifying the > depth at which apt should stop installing recommends, one can specify > the packages in the dependency tree from which apt should install > recommends from. I.e., to replicate --no-

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix ito

2024-11-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 03:47:05 +0100, Fay Stegerman wrote: >I personally would consider a "apt install-recs", analogous to "apt build-dep", >quite useful. That would require multiple steps instead of a single command, >but allow installing the recommends for a specific package at any later time, >wh

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix ito

2024-11-07 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Fri, Nov 08, 2024 at 08:20:46AM +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > Am 8. November 2024 06:42:25 MEZ schrieb Marc Haber > : > >Agreed! And I would also love the possibility to directly paste a > >package list from apt show's output into apt install without having to > >remove the commas. > > >

Re: RFC: "Recommended bloat", and how to possibly fix ito

2024-11-07 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Am 8. November 2024 06:42:25 MEZ schrieb Marc Haber : >Agreed! And I would also love the possibility to directly paste a >package list from apt show's output into apt install without having to >remove the commas. > This! mfh.her.fsr IOhannes