Bugs "fails to migrate to testing for too long" (Was: cluster3 dropped out of testing)

2020-12-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I'd like to point to a discussion on the Debian Med mailing list which was caused by a "fails to migrate to testing for too long" bug. I fully agree that these bugs should be filed. However, the bugs are immediately set to "Done" later by the issuer of the bug. I discussed this with Paul be

CentOS and Debian/Ubuntu release cycles

2020-12-09 Thread Stephan Lachnit
Hi all, maybe you already have heard it, CentOS is basically dead now. It used to be an exact RHEL clone, but now it's kind of an RHEL beta [1]. Now what does that have to do with Debian? When we look into why people use CentOS, the reason is pretty simple: it is (or was) binary-compatible wit

Re: CentOS and Debian/Ubuntu release cycles

2020-12-09 Thread Mechtilde
Hello Stephan, Am 09.12.20 um 17:25 schrieb Stephan Lachnit: > Hi all, > > maybe you already have heard it, CentOS is basically dead now. It used to be > an exact RHEL clone, but now it's kind of an RHEL beta [1]. > > Now what does that have to do with Debian? > > When we look into why people

Re: CentOS and Debian/Ubuntu release cycles

2020-12-09 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2020-12-09 16:25:54 + (+), Stephan Lachnit wrote: [...] > The more I started thinking about it, the more I wondered about > why Debian Stable and Ubuntu LTS are *not* binary-compatible. It > just doesn't make sense to me. Both Debian Stable and Ubuntu LTS > provide a more "long term" app

Re: CentOS and Debian/Ubuntu release cycles

2020-12-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 04:25:54PM +, Stephan Lachnit wrote: > Hi all, > > maybe you already have heard it, CentOS is basically dead now. It used to be > an exact RHEL clone, but now it's kind of an RHEL beta [1]. > > Now what does that have to do with Debian? > > When we look into why peop

Re: Bugs "fails to migrate to testing for too long" (Was: cluster3 dropped out of testing)

2020-12-09 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 10:17:56AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > I'd like to point to a discussion on the Debian Med mailing list which > was caused by a "fails to migrate to testing for too long" bug. I > fully agree that these bugs should be filed. However, the bugs are > immediately set to "Do

Re: Intel SOF audio firmware packaging

2020-12-09 Thread Barak A. Pearlmutter
My Dell Inspiron 7591 2n1 required the SOF audio firmware, so I did a quick packaging for my own purposes, to be sure I had the latest. See https://github.com/barak/sof-bin branch: debian Works for me, and of course my packaging scripts are free for use in whole or in part etc (I hereby place t

DebDelta Package Broken by Python3.9

2020-12-09 Thread Calum McConnell
Hi all, I just wanted to note the breakage, and ask for an NMU. I have prepared and uploaded a patch, both to Salsa and to the BTS, and it has been a few days without any response. The patch is very simple: just replace all occurences of isAlive() with is_alive(), and the package works.  I am not

Re: DebDelta Package Broken by Python3.9

2020-12-09 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 12:52:30PM -0500, Calum McConnell wrote: > Hi all, > I just wanted to note the breakage, and ask for an NMU. I have prepared > and uploaded a patch, both to Salsa and to the BTS, and it has been a few > days without any response. The patch is very simple: just replace all

Re: Bugs "fails to migrate to testing for too long" (Was: cluster3 dropped out of testing)

2020-12-09 Thread Diane Trout
On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 18:27 +0100, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > Because you seem to not be aware of how non-free works.  Non-free is > not > autobuilt, so when Andreas uploaded 1.59+ds-2 without any binaries > then > "cluster3 has no binaries on any arch".  Since there are no binaries > associated with

Re: Bugs "fails to migrate to testing for too long" (Was: cluster3 dropped out of testing)

2020-12-09 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:44:25AM -0800, Diane Trout wrote: > Could we add a note to tracker or excuses for non-free packages on what > the developer needs to do to get it to migrate? IMHO, that's inappropriate. That would mean artificially adding into britney something that is really a nuance o

Re: CentOS and Debian/Ubuntu release cycles

2020-12-09 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:25:54 +, Stephan Lachnit wrote: >When we look into why people use CentOS, the reason is pretty simple: it is >(or was) binary-compatible with RHEL, just without the support [2]. >I was reading comments from people that use RHEL on their production, but >CentOS at home

Re: CentOS and Debian/Ubuntu release cycles

2020-12-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 05:02:50PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Two different distributions: two different approaches. Ubuntu support a > small subset of packages in their main distribution (as opposed to > multiverse/universe). Ubuntu packages are often pulled from Debian stable > and test

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Re: CentOS and Debian/Ubuntu release cycles

2020-12-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:17 PM Marc Haber wrote: > Ubuntu never cared about Debian. That is probably not entirely correct, there are parts of the Ubuntu community, including Canonical employees, that definitely care about Debian, to the point that they are Debian members and fairly core contribut

Re: CentOS and Debian/Ubuntu release cycles

2020-12-09 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 5:42 AM Stephan Lachnit < stephanlach...@protonmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > maybe you already have heard it, CentOS is basically dead now. It used to > be an exact RHEL clone, but now it's kind of an RHEL beta [1]. > > Red Hat'er here. CentOS is certainly not dead. This i

Bug#977019: ITP: golang-golang-x-term -- Go terminal and console support

2020-12-09 Thread Arnaud Rebillout
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Arnaud Rebillout * Package name: golang-golang-x-term Version : 0.0~git20201207.ee85cb9-1 Upstream Author : Go * URL : https://github.com/golang/term * License : BSD-3-clause-Google Programming Lang: Go Description

Re: Bugs "fails to migrate to testing for too long" (Was: cluster3 dropped out of testing)

2020-12-09 Thread Diane Trout
On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 19:31 +0100, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > > Even then, the message says that "cluster3 has no binaries on any > arch" > - from there why can't one try to figure why there are no binaries?  > I'm > positive that dumping the tracker link and that message in > debian-mentors@ would y

Re: CentOS and Debian/Ubuntu release cycles

2020-12-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 10, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote: > is. Binary compat is mostly a thing of the past in modern Rhel due to > containerization. Container tooling in userspace is one of the reasons RH Cool narrative, but the reality is a bit more complex than that. Fibre Channel users need very specific kernels