Cross-build Qt Debian package

2020-01-08 Thread Carsten Behling
Hi, I get the following error while trying to rebuild 'qtbase-opensource-src_5.7.1+dfsg-3+deb9u1' for Debian Stretch armhf in a pbuilder environment: ... g++ -c -pipe -O2 -Wall -W -fPIC -I. -I../../../mkspecs/linux-g++ -o db2.o db2.cpp db2.cpp:40:20: fatal error: sqlcli.h: No such file or direct

Re: Migration to testing blocked by broken piuparts?

2020-01-08 Thread Pirate Praveen
On വ്യാ, Jan 2, 2020 at 21:43, debacle wrote: On 2020-01-02 11:53, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: El jue., 2 ene. 2020 08:28, Julien Cristau escribió: > No, it'll eventually get retried and (assuming it passes) the migration > block will lift. And "eventually" is normall

Re: Cross-build Qt Debian package

2020-01-08 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Hi Carsten! On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 06:51, Carsten Behling wrote: > > Hi, > > I get the following error while trying to rebuild > 'qtbase-opensource-src_5.7.1+dfsg-3+deb9u1' for Debian Stretch armhf in a > pbuilder environment: qtbase can't be cross built "as is" in Stretch, and possibly not in

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Dienstag, den 07.01.2020, 20:19 -0800 schrieb Russ Allbery: > Noah Meyerhans writes: > > On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 02:43:08AM +0100, Daniel Leidert wrote: > > > I disagree here. I don't want you to overrule my decision for a > > > cron-script. If a user has enabled a cron-job you shouldn't change

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Mittwoch, den 08.01.2020, 08:17 +0100 schrieb Philip Hands: > Daniel Leidert writes: > ... > > Please ask during installation and give the question an appropriate > > priority. > > By choosing the priority you can even achieve a "silent" transition for > > "normal" users and let more advanced u

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2020-01-08 14:27, Daniel Leidert wrote: And what s the benefit of this change: Getting rid of cron? The very simple thing is: CRON=1 enables a cron job. It does *not* say: "Please enable something different as long as it achieves the same." There is nothing wrong with the cron job and it wo

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 08 Jan 2020, Daniel Leidert wrote: > > This strikes me as clutter that will never be removed from debconf, so > > let's not decide to do that for every package that might need a timer. > > Why should this question ever been removed? What is your goal? Getting rid of > cron-jobs? The quest

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Mittwoch, den 08.01.2020, 15:36 +0100 schrieb Philipp Kern: > On 2020-01-08 14:27, Daniel Leidert wrote: > > And what s the benefit of this change: Getting rid of cron? > > > > The very simple thing is: CRON=1 enables a cron job. It does *not* say: > > "Please > > enable something different as

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Mittwoch, den 08.01.2020, 08:17 +0100 schrieb Philip Hands: [..] > How about modifying the shipped /etc/default/spamassassin to include a > comment explaining what's going on, and how to enable the timer instead? It seems I misread this part at first. Is it your suggestion to keep the default

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 05:15:36PM +0100, Daniel Leidert wrote: It seems I misread this part at first. So maybe you should slow down on the emails?

Re: Migration to testing blocked by broken piuparts?

2020-01-08 Thread Boyuan Yang
在 2020-01-08三的 16:36 +0530,Pirate Praveen写道: > > On വ്യാ, Jan 2, 2020 at 21:43, debacle > wrote: > > On 2020-01-02 11:53, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > > > El jue., 2 ene. 2020 08:28, Julien Cristau > > > escribió: > > > > No, it'll eventually get retried and (assuming it pass

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 02:18:34PM +0100, Daniel Leidert wrote: > > Yeah, that's my reaction as well. The point is to run the job > > periodically. > > No. The configuration says CRON=1. It doesn't say PERIODIC_CHECKS=1. Your > behavior here is pretty similar to Microsofts: Let the user decide if

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Daniel Leidert writes: > Am Dienstag, den 07.01.2020, 20:19 -0800 schrieb Russ Allbery: >> Yeah, that's my reaction as well. The point is to run the job >> periodically. > No. The configuration says CRON=1. It doesn't say > PERIODIC_CHECKS=1. Your behavior here is pretty similar to Microsofts:

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Mittwoch, den 08.01.2020, 12:56 -0500 schrieb Noah Meyerhans: > On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 02:18:34PM +0100, Daniel Leidert wrote: > > > Yeah, that's my reaction as well. The point is to run the job > > > periodically. > > > > No. The configuration says CRON=1. It doesn't say PERIODIC_CHECKS=1. Y

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 10:36:02AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Could you be specific about what you prefer about a cron job over a systemd timer unit? If it's just that you are familiar with cron jobs and not systemd timer units, I'm sympathetic but I don't think that's a very strong argument for

OpenGL, GLVND and default values for packages

2020-01-08 Thread Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda
Hi, I have been working with the coin3 [1] package and I have found some curious situation today. I have build the package in my pbuilder without any problem. Then I have tested the ci so: - at Jan 8, 2020 3:08 PM I have pushed to salsa and the ci was activated building the sources but failing _

Bug#948451: ITP: python-cliapp -- cliapp is a Python framework for Unix-like command line programs. It contains the typical stuff such programs need to do, such as parsing the command line for options

2020-01-08 Thread JAIR REIS
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: JAIR REIS * Package name: python-cliapp Version : 1.20140719-1 Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius * URL : https://liw.fi/cliapp/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : cliapp is a Python framework

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Stone writes: > On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 10:36:02AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Could you be specific about what you prefer about a cron job over a >> systemd timer unit? If it's just that you are familiar with cron jobs >> and not systemd timer units, I'm sympathetic but I don't think

Re: [Piuparts-devel] Migration to testing blocked by broken piuparts?

2020-01-08 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 08/01/2020 19.09, Boyuan Yang wrote: > 在 2020-01-08三的 16:36 +0530,Pirate Praveen写道: >> >> On വ്യാ, Jan 2, 2020 at 21:43, debacle >> wrote: >>> On 2020-01-02 11:53, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: El jue., 2 ene. 2020 08:28, Julien Cristau escribió: > No, it'll eve

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 11:25:56AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > As a third party with no particular ax to grind on this, I do wonder > > what the advantage is to adding another mechanism for this particular > > use case, given the need to somehow handle upgrades involving an > > existing (presuma

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Matthew Woodcraft
Russ Allbery wrote: The one exception I can think of is if someone really wants to customize the [spamassassin daily] job. That can be a little more tedious to do with timer units. Right now, I think there's a bunch of logic in the /etc/cron.daily script that someone could in theory change. But I

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mercredi, 8 janvier 2020, 16.33:28 h CET Daniel Leidert a écrit : > Am Mittwoch, den 08.01.2020, 15:36 +0100 schrieb Philipp Kern: > > I think there needs to be a sensible choice for *periodic jobs* that we > > should document as the default unless there is a reason to use something > > else. It

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Philip Hands
Daniel Leidert writes: > Am Mittwoch, den 08.01.2020, 15:36 +0100 schrieb Philipp Kern: >> On 2020-01-08 14:27, Daniel Leidert wrote: >> > And what s the benefit of this change: Getting rid of cron? >> > >> > The very simple thing is: CRON=1 enables a cron job. It does *not* say: >> > "Please >>

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mi, Jan 08, 2020 at 02:57:51 -0500, Noah Meyerhans wrote: visible to administrators. IMO the migration to systemd timers can be done more smoothly, so it's still preferable. Well, since you need to support non-systemd systems as well (like mine) the cron script is still needed (I don’t thi

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Philip Hands
Daniel Leidert writes: > Am Mittwoch, den 08.01.2020, 08:17 +0100 schrieb Philip Hands: > > [..] >> How about modifying the shipped /etc/default/spamassassin to include a >> comment explaining what's going on, and how to enable the timer instead? > > It seems I misread this part at first. Is it y

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Stephan Seitz writes: > On Mi, Jan 08, 2020 at 02:57:51 -0500, Noah Meyerhans wrote: >> visible to administrators. IMO the migration to systemd timers can be >> done more smoothly, so it's still preferable. > Well, since you need to support non-systemd systems as well (like mine) > the cron scr

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 10:09:58PM +0100, Stephan Seitz wrote: > > visible to administrators. IMO the migration to systemd timers can be > > done more smoothly, so it's still preferable. > > Well, since you need to support non-systemd systems as well (like mine) the > cron script is still needed

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 10:32:07PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > I don't really care what that comment says, as that's up to the > maintainer of the package, and how they intend to deal with this in the > future, but I'm really not a fan adding unnecessary questions to debconf. Here's my proposal f

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Josh Triplett
Noah Meyerhans wrote: > Spamassassin has traditionally supplied a cron.daily script. I'd like > to provide the same functionality via a systemd timer, while still > providing cron as a fallback. For the most part, this is > straightforward, but there are a few details on which I'd like feedback.

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Richard Laager
On 1/8/20 4:25 PM, Josh Triplett wrote: > (I would suggest doing the same for the cron job, for new installations: > put the script itself in /usr/lib/spamassassin or similar, and document > that people can enable it by either enabling the systemd timer, linking > the script from cron.daily, or cop

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Richard Laager
On 1/8/20 1:02 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > As a third party with no particular ax to grind on this, I do wonder > what the advantage is to adding another mechanism for this particular > use case, given the need to somehow handle upgrades involving an > existing (presumably working?) solution. At my

Re: Cross-build Qt Debian package

2020-01-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:21 PM Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 06:51, Carsten Behling wrote: > > > > I get the following error while trying to rebuild > > 'qtbase-opensource-src_5.7.1+dfsg-3+deb9u1' for Debian Stretch armhf in a > > pbuilder environment: > > q

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 11:45 PM Richard Laager wrote: > We do lose the automatic cron emails This is the main reason I haven't switched to systemd timers for my personal crontab, I have some jobs that generate output (diffs of various things mostly) but don't fail. There doesn't appear to be any

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 02:09:12AM +, Paul Wise wrote: This is the main reason I haven't switched to systemd timers for my personal crontab, I have some jobs that generate output (diffs of various things mostly) but don't fail. There doesn't appear to be any tool to monitor a tool and send a

Re: migration from cron.daily to systemd timers

2020-01-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Stone writes: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 02:09:12AM +, Paul Wise wrote: >> This is the main reason I haven't switched to systemd timers for my >> personal crontab, I have some jobs that generate output (diffs of >> various things mostly) but don't fail. There doesn't appear to be any >

Re: Cross-build Qt Debian package

2020-01-08 Thread Helmut Grohne
Hi, On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 11:53:28PM +, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:21 PM Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 06:51, Carsten Behling wrote: > > > > > > I get the following error while trying to rebuild > > > 'qtbase-opensource-src_5.7.1+dfs